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Hey all, this thread is to ask would you be a heretic, and if yes why.

I would'nt, the risks are just too great, death spawnhood and failure all lead to eternal damnation, sure becoming an immortal daemon is nice and all but its no use if you are dead. And of course, there are the morals," now now, killing thousands to become immortal is not nice"

I would not if I was an IG trooper. I probably would if I were a Space Marine. Especially for Tzeentch!

If IG yes and if a Space marine HELL YEAH!

Hell yeah to all the above, even if I was a low ranking Traitor Guardsman...I would still do my duty to Khorne my Lord.

Never, ever.

Imperator Gloriam.

Immortality is a terrible enough prospect in reality. In 40k that's basically the worst thing you could ever experience. Honestly, what is appealing about becoming a Chaos demon? That the crap is wrong with you people?

I would stay loyal to the imperium. It might be a horrible life, but it's for the survival of our species. Heretics try to bring about the end of the imperium.

I would definitely be one of those people that simply fall to the promise of power and eternal life. And suddenly; Tzeentch. Ability to use magic and immortality. Damn. And I would probably strive for ascension to Daemonhood and be granted my own planet to rule over. WITH WARP MAGIC!

TheLinguist wrote:I would definitely be one of those people that simply fall to the promise of power and eternal life. And suddenly; Tzeentch. Ability to use magic and immortality. Damn. And I would probably strive for ascension to Daemonhood and be granted my own planet to rule over. WITH WARP MAGIC!

For Tzeentch, I'll do anything. Provided I'm not a mere guardsman.

I reckon i already am... Not in a 'Worshipping squelchy things from the immaterium' kinda way, more in the way of a general independence of thought, a problem with authorities kind of heresy... Technically heresy, but the Inquisition will take out the gnarly spikey heretics first and i'll sneak off.... Bwahahahahaha!

I doubt I'd stay loyal to the imperium, as it pretty much sucks. But Chaos is strictly a no-go. The "rewards" are pretty much all terrible. I haven't seen a situation where a Chaos Daemon seemed genuinely happy or content with life.

I'd probably try to go Rogue Trader or join the Tau or something like that. Pirates are always several degrees cooler than Daemons, and the Tau treat humans significantly better than humans treat humans.

If 40k literature has taught me anything, it's that Daemons have two primary emotions:
1. Fury and Rage
2. Being bored with Fury and Rage
Neither option is enjoyable.

TheLinguist wrote:I would definitely be one of those people that simply fall to the promise of power and eternal life. And suddenly; Tzeentch. Ability to use magic and immortality. Damn. And I would probably strive for ascension to Daemonhood and be granted my own planet to rule over. WITH WARP MAGIC!

But you speak of a tiny minority that get granted that. Your more likely to get too many "gifts" and become an immortal, unthinking spawn till you get shot to pieces as a shock troop on some battlefront than elevate yourself to owning a daemonworld.

Burn heritic

I think a 40k 'heretic' is probably similar to a 'heretic' in medieval Europe, as in, anyone who disagrees with the church being in charge of everything. The church defines who is a heretic and who isn't, and it usually goes hand-in-hand with anyone who challenges their authority. I doubt if the Empreror would admonish heretics (first guy to say "no. Don't worship 'gods'), any more than Jesus would approve of witch burning, but you bet the ecclesiarchy would, just as the Spanish Inquisition would, in the name of the Jesus or the Emperor or whatever.

So HELL yeah I would be a heretic. Even my name is used nowadays as the Demon Lord of Gnolls from a blasphemous RPG that was accused of turning kids to satan worship in the early 80s. I am guessing that the fictional RPG Yeenoghu is probably a minion of Khorne if he were in 40k. Well, that RPG is actually based on ME. The real ME not the abyssal spawned avatar I represent myself with here. They got a few details wrong in the 1st ed. monster manual (I am slightly under 9' tall, and my flail has shorter chains) but yeah that's the real me they based it off of, in all my hyena-faced glory. That's why I have to use the internet to communicate with mortals (and seduce their kids to satanic interests - like the kid who's mug I use as my Avatar).

Go heresy go! Without heresy, there would be no Slayer, only Amy Grant.

Does joining the Tau count as being a heretic? If so, then yes, I would join the Tau and be a heretic.

Though they seem to have secret agendas, the life style isn't that bad. Join the earth caste and stay away from the fighting, or maybe the air caste.

Mr Nobody wrote: Heretics try to bring about the end of the imperium.

Unless, you kno your part of the, uhmmm *cough* alpha legion *cough*

I wouldn't be a heretic heretic but i wouldn't properly believe... probably die pretty quick.

I would not be a heretic, although my lifespan as a normal person would probably be 30 if im lucky I can see the whole purpose of the IoM and what they do and all so why would I go and betray my race for some God that's just going to cast me to some horrible torture if I fail, when the IoM will at least have the mercy to blow my head off or turn me into to an unthinking robot where I wont even be able comprehend my regret of failing . And I could be a Space Marine perhaps

I'm not mad at daddy enough to be a heretic.
Imperium is the only way to fly.

I could if it was a slippery slope situation, just doing things a little bit evil and slowly gets worse. I couldnt go straight to KILL! BATHE IN THEIR BLOOD! MURDER! TORTURE!
Im a bit old now for space marine conversion, so i would have to work my way up to daemon prince the hard (ie impossible) way.

Edited to avoid the rollover hint text.

I'd probably end up on chaos without realizing it before it's too late. I don't think I'd ever willingly do it or at least not from the get go, but maybe I'll learn to embrace my new path at some point and its many many tentacles.

Or maybe I'll live a tortured, regretful, hypocrisy-laden life constantly hating what I've become

grimdark 40k is grimdark

If I was able to do so and slaughter innocents for the Blood God without the fear of being sniped by a long las as soon as I draw my weapon, then hell yeah. But as long as I die without causing the deaths of many others... Not sure what i'd get for that...

I imagine it'd be like losing those gameshows like wheel of fortune and the price is right: "Ooooh so close there! Let's see what you could've won..."

Not in a Dan Abnett book I wouldn't...

But no, no matter how bad the imperium is chaos is always worse, at least in the imperium I have people who will fight to defend me.

Both boxes checked off!
KHORNE KILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURN

I could see myself becoming a Champion of Malal.

Fight everyone, Chaos and Loyalist alike. Be the one and only badass mofo for Malal until he's done with me.

And best of all, no eternal Daemonhood to bore me with a life of failing. Just going out in a blaze of glory for my patron god who ultimately turns on me just as I turned on humanity.

I already am one.

EmilCrane wrote:But no, no matter how bad the imperium is chaos is always worse, at least in the imperium I have people who will fight to defend me.

Actually they fight for the Emperor. Most of them (Refering to the space marines) don't care if you die or not. Chaos, on the other hand.. Heh. You fight and kill for a greater purpose, plus you don't have uber strict laws to adhere to. Just be sure to watch your step.

In a Slaaneshi minute!

Yeah, if i was an ig i would NEVER even consider becoming heretic as they have no chance, and unless a thunderhawk lands on earth to take me away before april then theres no chance of space marine for me.

But tau are a good idea.

The Chaos Gods and their goals are inimicial to the well being of humanity. So no.