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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 12:48:05
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
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During the Horus heresy when the emperor still had a physical body and was mobile how strong was he exactly ?. To be especially specific could he survive a hunter killer missile to the face ?, its been a long running dispute at my local Gw store and just wanted to hear some opinions. I mean I understand he's psychic and could likely telekinetically push it away, but say for some reason he couldnt and the full force of a hunter killer missile hit him in the face would he survive ?.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 12:55:11
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
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His physical body wouldn't. But remember, this is the Emperor you're talking about. Essentially, he represents a warp god in physical form.
In the simplest terms, it's not like he'd even have to push the missile away with his psychic powers. It would simply miss him because he's that awesome.
(unless he willed it to hit him)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 12:55:22
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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From what I know the HK wouldn't even touch him. Terminator Armour shields and his psychic barriers would almost certainly stop it in it's tracks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 12:59:46
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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The question is what would happen if his terminator shields and everything didn't work for some reason, so that he did get hit.
I imagine the Emporer is T4, so the missile would Instant Death him, but he almost certainly has Eternal Warrior, so he would survive that and take a wound.
It should go without saying that the Emporer has more than one wound.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 13:33:01
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Kilkrazy wrote:The question is what would happen if his terminator shields and everything didn't work for some reason, so that he did get hit.
I imagine the Emporer is T4, so the missile would Instant Death him, but he almost certainly has Eternal Warrior, so he would survive that and take a wound.
It should go without saying that the Emporer has more than one wound.
Just imagine that instead of hitting his face, instead of massive pressure damage to organs and his armour the warhead was a dud or that it glanced off of a finely filiagred greave on his armour to explode further away.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 15:29:10
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
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Mr. Burning wrote:Kilkrazy wrote:The question is what would happen if his terminator shields and everything didn't work for some reason, so that he did get hit.
I imagine the Emporer is T4, so the missile would Instant Death him, but he almost certainly has Eternal Warrior, so he would survive that and take a wound.
It should go without saying that the Emporer has more than one wound.
Just imagine that instead of hitting his face, instead of massive pressure damage to organs and his armour the warhead was a dud or that it glanced off of a finely filiagred greave on his armour to explode further away.
I meant more in real life terms as opposed to on the tabletop, You could say itd shred him just like anyother human but I get mixed reactions from the people at my local gaming store, some say he must have like iron skin or that he could withstand the force / heat of the explosion just to him being that physically resistant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 16:00:12
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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well this is the emperor we are talking about. he would have had the most unbelievably pimped artificer armour imaginable.
Problem is 40k dudes tend to go without the helmet. poor choice.
Anyways, if he was hit with it, he'd live. he'd come out with some cool face scars but i'm sure he'd "lessen the impact" with psychic shenanigans or whatnot.
After all, the emperor protects.. his beautiful face
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 16:06:27
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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ChronoCupcake wrote:Mr. Burning wrote:Kilkrazy wrote:The question is what would happen if his terminator shields and everything didn't work for some reason, so that he did get hit.
I imagine the Emporer is T4, so the missile would Instant Death him, but he almost certainly has Eternal Warrior, so he would survive that and take a wound.
It should go without saying that the Emporer has more than one wound.
Just imagine that instead of hitting his face, instead of massive pressure damage to organs and his armour the warhead was a dud or that it glanced off of a finely filiagred greave on his armour to explode further away.
I meant more in real life terms as opposed to on the tabletop, You could say itd shred him just like anyother human but I get mixed reactions from the people at my local gaming store, some say he must have like iron skin or that he could withstand the force / heat of the explosion just to him being that physically resistant.
Well if you strip away his supreme powers, and with these, his super human potential then...
I regret to inform you that your leader .. The Emperor... is dead, presumed totally immolated. I am assured that he was striving for humanities salvation and protection up to the moment the most banal explosive projectile took his life.
Please note that the forces of the Empyrean are now ripping through reality and corrupting everything in their path.
Yours.
The Council of Terra.
But sure, being superhuman he could totally ignore that mo= fo'ing missile and bring some pain to whomever fired it.
Hope that helps.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 16:30:25
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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seeing as a HK missile is not exactly devastating, as are the foes he has faced in his life?
he could take it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 16:43:33
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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An ork boy nearly choked the life out of the Big E according to my 2nd Ed fluff, and Horus saved his life. So I'm thinking a Hunter Killer Missile to the face would probably mess him up good-o.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 17:01:05
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Stabbin' Skarboy
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That question is like asking if a HK missile would hit Chuch norris in the face. NO he would roundhouse it away
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 18:35:41
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
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xD yeah I think its a pretty redundant question like one of those could god make a stone so heavy he couldnt lift it question, As in it'd undermine the entire point if god / the emperor did either of those things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 19:08:12
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Courageous Silver Helm
Nottingham
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I'm quite sure he could stop it, Neo style.
But if, for the sake of plot, it actually got through...
...he still wouldn't die. If a Callidus assassin can keep their body intact through sheer force of will whilst under the influence of polymorphine, I'm quite sure the Emperor could hold himself together/instaregen after being hit by a missile.
He'd just stomp out looking all dread and on fire, like Eva-01.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 19:26:39
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Let see the thing that managed to cripple the emperor is Horus, hence the HK missile have to be able to be stronger than Horus with the Emperor letting the HK hits him ( He didn't want to fight Horus, before Sanguinus got killed)
Hence the God Emperor would probably make the missile stop and turn back out of it's own will
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 21:23:42
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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The Emporer isn't a god.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 21:45:36
Subject: Re:God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Probly not kill him but at least bug the hell out of him lol.
question is could zog worts curse squig him lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 21:47:42
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ChronoCupcake wrote:During the Horus heresy when the emperor still had a physical body and was mobile how strong was he exactly ?. To be especially specific could he survive a hunter killer missile to the face ?, its been a long running dispute at my local Gw store and just wanted to hear some opinions. I mean I understand he's psychic and could likely telekinetically push it away, but say for some reason he couldnt and the full force of a hunter killer missile hit him in the face would he survive ?.
Excluding psychic powers, and some warp fate transgression, the emperors head would be split open and unrecognizable as a head. So his physical body would have been totally wasted. Eternal warrior or not, no body survives a 10km/s jet of semi-liquid copper, THEN you have blast pressure that would kill him, then the shrapnel. Yeah, excluding psychic powers, no physical organic being of roughly human size could withstand that. And to the head, your looking at killing stuff like squigoths and gargantuan squigoths. Even terminator armor would be iffy protection. it's got a shot if hunter killers are gen II shaped charges, none at all if they are gen III, and i'm sure at least some FW's use gen III. Adamantiums a special material but it's not magic.... now a deflector shield... that would do the trick.
He'd just stomp out looking all dread and on fire, like Eva-01.
also, Eva-01 would totally kick the emperors ass.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 22:28:10
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
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Kilkrazy wrote:The Emporer isn't a god.
WHAT ?!?! we should have you tried for heresy Automatically Appended Next Post: gendoikari87 wrote:ChronoCupcake wrote:During the Horus heresy when the emperor still had a physical body and was mobile how strong was he exactly ?. To be especially specific could he survive a hunter killer missile to the face ?, its been a long running dispute at my local Gw store and just wanted to hear some opinions. I mean I understand he's psychic and could likely telekinetically push it away, but say for some reason he couldnt and the full force of a hunter killer missile hit him in the face would he survive ?.
Excluding psychic powers, and some warp fate transgression, the emperors head would be split open and unrecognizable as a head. So his physical body would have been totally wasted. Eternal warrior or not, no body survives a 10km/s jet of semi-liquid copper, THEN you have blast pressure that would kill him, then the shrapnel. Yeah, excluding psychic powers, no physical organic being of roughly human size could withstand that. And to the head, your looking at killing stuff like squigoths and gargantuan squigoths. Even terminator armor would be iffy protection. it's got a shot if hunter killers are gen II shaped charges, none at all if they are gen III, and i'm sure at least some FW's use gen III. Adamantiums a special material but it's not magic.... now a deflector shield... that would do the trick.
He'd just stomp out looking all dread and on fire, like Eva-01.
also, Eva-01 would totally kick the emperors ass.
Man the emperor would cleave eva 01 with a glance of his incredibly chiselled masculine features, im still of the impression the Emperor could just hold his particles together through sheer force of will.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 22:45:20
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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Assuming that the big e is at least a physical match for primarchs, which he is, then I reckon yes, he'd live. Most hh novels talk about primarch organics being superior in every conceivable way to human physiology. Things like bone density and skin toughness etc clearly make him more resilient. Talk of shaped charges and such is all well and good, but his body strength in relative terms is a complete unknown. Also, talk of discounting his psychic powers is like saying could he do it with no arms.. It's a part of what makes him as strong as he is, so the idea of him resisting damage by sheer force of will is entirely probable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 23:21:42
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Kilkrazy wrote:The question is what would happen if his terminator shields and everything didn't work for some reason, so that he did get hit.
I imagine the Emporer is T4, so the missile would Instant Death him, but he almost certainly has Eternal Warrior, so he would survive that and take a wound.
It should go without saying that the Emporer has more than one wound.
The Emperor (Emporer?) is t4? And Mephiston is t6?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 23:37:41
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
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ph34r wrote:Kilkrazy wrote:The question is what would happen if his terminator shields and everything didn't work for some reason, so that he did get hit.
I imagine the Emporer is T4, so the missile would Instant Death him, but he almost certainly has Eternal Warrior, so he would survive that and take a wound.
It should go without saying that the Emporer has more than one wound.
The Emperor (Emporer?) is t4? And Mephiston is t6?
tehehehehe *high five* excuse the hyperbole but the emperor would be one of the rare valid uses of a t10 rating (keep in mind I have exceedingly small amounts of wargaming experience but a statline of all 10s seems to be the big hyperbole that floats around when people make overpowered characters)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 23:39:39
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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ph34r wrote:Kilkrazy wrote:The question is what would happen if his terminator shields and everything didn't work for some reason, so that he did get hit.
I imagine the Emporer is T4, so the missile would Instant Death him, but he almost certainly has Eternal Warrior, so he would survive that and take a wound.
It should go without saying that the Emporer has more than one wound.
The Emperor (Emporer?) is t4? And Mephiston is t6?
Yeah, I'd have to agree. The Emperor has a much higher toughness. He was even more Superhuman than the Primarchs from what I remember, and you could easily rate every single Primarch as T6. Plus he could definitely make himself strong with his Psychic powers or even just dissipate the missile and what not. You'd need to be Horus or that super-powered Ork warlord to even think about fighting the Emperor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 23:45:02
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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Pffffft foo's, everyone knows Mephiston is possessed. That's why he's T6. That and because GW designers are fond of giving Typhus a big FU.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/24 00:48:47
Subject: Re:God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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The Conquerer
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the Emperor was just a man as far as his body went.
Likely T4 because he's the Emperor. naturally, no Hunter Killer would get close enough to damage him, he would know it was coming and deflect it/explode it/ turn it around...
in the picture of Him facing down Horus, you will notice that he doesn't appear to be much taller then the Custodes behind him and he is certaintly shorter then Horus(even accounting for Warp Enhancement and Terminator armor)
the Primarchs seem to be taller then him physically, although the Emperor's presence seems to amplify his stature. it probably is tough to guage the Emperor's actual dimensions. His face is described as changing appearance/your perception depending on the situation. he seems like a young warlord and a beneficient old man at the same time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/24 01:01:20
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
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Da Boss wrote:Pffffft foo's, everyone knows Mephiston is possessed. That's why he's T6. That and because GW designers are fond of giving Typhus a big FU.
I beg to differ in the BA dex it says that mephistons gene seed activated a second time a previously unheard of phenomena, which I'd theorise made him closer to a primarch's strengh then an average marine. So assuming vanilla marine t4, mephiston t6, then a primarch would be roughly t8 ? which would ideally place the Emperor at t10. Automatically Appended Next Post: Grey Templar wrote:the Emperor was just a man as far as his body went.
Likely T4 because he's the Emperor. naturally, no Hunter Killer would get close enough to damage him, he would know it was coming and deflect it/explode it/ turn it around...
in the picture of Him facing down Horus, you will notice that he doesn't appear to be much taller then the Custodes behind him and he is certaintly shorter then Horus(even accounting for Warp Enhancement and Terminator armor)
the Primarchs seem to be taller then him physically, although the Emperor's presence seems to amplify his stature. it probably is tough to guage the Emperor's actual dimensions. His face is described as changing appearance/your perception depending on the situation. he seems like a young warlord and a beneficient old man at the same time.
In that picture he's got his knees bent on a flight of stairs, and Horus is massively bloated by chaos powers compare him with sanguinius in that same picture, and consider that a primarch would tower above any astartes / custodian.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/24 01:06:47
Subject: God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Kilkrazy wrote:The Emporer isn't a god.
Where is that heresy/exterminatus symbol people keep dropping on threads?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/24 01:21:56
Subject: Re:God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Grey Templar wrote:the Emperor was just a man as far as his body went.
You sure, heretic?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/24 01:33:54
Subject: Re:God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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The Conquerer
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Body, yes. Soul, Hell No.
Of course, he probably made some "modifications" over the centuries.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/24 02:01:28
Subject: Re:God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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Zoanthropes can produce warp shields, so imagine the emperor would have something similar along the surface of his body.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/24 02:02:27
Subject: Re:God Emperor vs Hunter killer missile
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ph34r wrote:Grey Templar wrote:the Emperor was just a man as far as his body went.
You sure, heretic?
Doh, he just stuck a light under his collarguard so he could walk around looking all divine and stuff.
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