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I don't think any of the new Immortals or Deathmarks have been shown with the old style of rods. Does that mean the Immortal/Deathmark kit comes with a different kind of rod? In fact except for Warriors and Destroyers, in other words all the new stuff, has that new style of guass rod. Of course it might just be painted over.

White Dwarf is out a day early

puma713 wrote:

Swara wrote:

That is the cover, it's in the new WD.

Gotcha.

I haven't looked at a WD in quite a while. There's something about the price and content that keep me away.

I understand completely. This one had a necron on the front though so I went to the store and squeed as I paid for it so I don't remember how much I paid for it.


On another topic, anyone with good mathhammer fu want to help me out? 10 Lychguard with 5 shield and 5 scythes vs. 10 TH/SS marines w/ the LG having FC if they get the drop on them or CA if they get charged. Trying to figure out (if they can be mixed, but I'm fairly sure they will be able to be) what the best mix of shields and scythes would be for not just this group, but as a deathstar itself.


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Defeatmyarmy wrote:White Dwarf is out a day early

My local shop had them out yesterday.

Sasori wrote:

Balor wrote:I agree that they will be worth the 40 pts if they end up with the S5 T5 stats. Plus I can use my 10 Pariah that I have nicely painted and sitting around.


What do you all think about Flayed Ones? So 13pts ish and can go up to 20 strong. Twenty of them out flanking might not be bad or using them as a speed bump.

They take up a valuable slot. I think if they were troops, they would be taken but not in the Elite slot.

Well...is the Elite slot that valuable to Necrons? I'm not saying there aren't any good Elite units to take, but if I had to choose I'd rather have an extra Fast Attack slot or something. For most armies this is Elite, but I don't feel this is the case for Necrons.

Praetorians look a bit lackluster, C'tan are too expensive to be "must haves", the Stalker doesn't have a model yet...I could sacrifice an Elite slot to Flayed Ones without feeling like I denied myself another must-have Elite.

Opinions on the Lychguard?

They'll rock in combat. Once I figure out a reliable way to get them there reasonably quickly, they'll propably be a staple.

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Has to be necrons, has to be!

I got 2 Ideas

Cryptek with Veil of darkness

but I wan't to add a Lord to my squad to add some extra CC punch so im gonna go with

Voidraven bomber converted into a night scythe.

I'm curious as to why people say Praetorians seem lackluster. They can get the Entropic ability and Rending along with some kind of pistol. I think that gives them 4 attacks on the charge, which should reduce AV pretty well. And of course Rending is nice againt non-vehicles too.

Jump infantry gives them a pretty straightforward advantage, and if you jump/DS close enough you can unleash those deadly Covenant Rods. You could put Obyron with a group and use his super VoD to jump out of combat then get another round of shooting in, you can't assault after the DS though.

If anything I think Lychegaurd might be a little lackluster. My first experiment will be to use them as a screen for Immortals who I might have to footslog. At T5 3+/4++/4+RP with a Rez Orb, and a reflective shield, they could be pretty obnoxious to take down.

Also do Praetorians get an invulnerable save at all?

So, if you take the Stormlord with a retinue that has a Solar Pulse plus another Lord with a retinue and a Solar Pulse... You can make 4 total enemy shooting turns be with nightfight rules? Is that right?

Just got back from one of my local shops.

Pre-ordered the new dex and the annihilation barge. They also had a box of 12 warriors, so I snagged that.

I'm looking forward to building a necron army.

Question for current necron players; I saw 2 different sized boxes for the regular destroyer model. The current one, and an older box that was about 1/2 inch thicker.

Are the contents the same in both? I didn't want to buy one and then learn later that the old one came with scarabs or what not.

one of the first rumors had a 4++ save that they could buy, but it hasn't been brought up in any recent ones.


that's all that keeps me from wanting them over Lychguard, really; with Rods of Covenant, they'd do alright against Terminators if the Praetorians get the charge.

Zahndrekh and Obryon would be a good way of getting a Lychguard unit in to the thick of it -- stick Zahndrekh in to a CBarge and drive him forward as fast as you can (you can still sweep on a 4+ if you move above combat speed) and use Obryon's VoD to pop next to him within 6". plus, on the next turn, you can give them Furious Charge, or something else from Zahndrekh's big list of buffs.

would be a lot better if you could assault after deep striking, but, you know!

BarBoBot wrote:Just got back from one of my local shops.

Pre-ordered the new dex and the annihilation barge. They also had a box of 12 warriors, so I snagged that.

I'm looking forward to building a necron army.

Question for current necron players; I saw 2 different sized boxes for the regular destroyer model. The current one, and an older box that was about 1/2 inch thicker.

Are the contents the same in both? I didn't want to buy one and then learn later that the old one came with scarabs or what not.

There are three 'destroyer' boxes on the shelves right now. Destroyer, Heavy Destroyer, and Destroyer Lord. The new box should contain the parts for all three.

So, if you take the Stormlord with a retinue that has a Solar Pulse plus another Lord with a retinue and a Solar Pulse... You can make 4 total enemy shooting turns be with nightfight rules? Is that right?

3 gurunteed if use the solar pulse to place night fighting on the enemy.

The stormlord puts enemy in night fighting the first turn, then each turn after you roll a d6, if roll higher than the turn number night fighting remains. So in theory you may be able to keep it on the entire game, but if using/saving the solar pulse to keep it on for the enemy its also on for you.

Anpu-adom wrote:

BarBoBot wrote:Just got back from one of my local shops.

Pre-ordered the new dex and the annihilation barge. They also had a box of 12 warriors, so I snagged that.

I'm looking forward to building a necron army.

Question for current necron players; I saw 2 different sized boxes for the regular destroyer model. The current one, and an older box that was about 1/2 inch thicker.

Are the contents the same in both? I didn't want to buy one and then learn later that the old one came with scarabs or what not.

There are three 'destroyer' boxes on the shelves right now. Destroyer, Heavy Destroyer, and Destroyer Lord. The new box should contain the parts for all three.

The shop I went to bad 4 destroyer boxes on the shelf. Heavy destroyer, destroyer lord, and 2 different destroyer boxes.

The larger one was old because the paint pots it showed on the back were the old twist off ones.

The larger "regular" desroyer box was at least a 1/2 inch thicker, so I just wanted to make sure the contents were exactly the same.

I like how it comes out tomorrow and there's still no word on GW's website. This secrecy policy of theirs is really rather bizarre and probably costs money.

Harriticus wrote:I like how it comes out tomorrow and there's still no word on GW's website. This secrecy policy of theirs is really rather bizarre and probably costs money.

Not really costing them money, they are the only source of Necrons. While there might be some preorders on websites the discount insured they were going to get the purchase anyway.

No necrcon codex listed on ther website. Also no new WD

asimo77 wrote:I'm curious as to why people say Praetorians seem lackluster. They can get the Entropic ability and Rending along with some kind of pistol. I think that gives them 4 attacks on the charge, which should reduce AV pretty well. And of course Rending is nice againt non-vehicles too.

Honestly, if I have to pay 200 pts for a squad of something, then it had better do more than just reduce AV. My impression is that the Lychguard will have more survivability, and thus be the better tool for most tasks. The Praetorians just feel like they're not as good as Scarabs for destroying armour, and not as good as Lychguard for protecting the shooty troops.

BarBoBot wrote:Just got back from one of my local shops.

Pre-ordered the new dex and the annihilation barge. They also had a box of 12 warriors, so I snagged that.

I'm looking forward to building a necron army.

Question for current necron players; I saw 2 different sized boxes for the regular destroyer model. The current one, and an older box that was about 1/2 inch thicker.

Are the contents the same in both? I didn't want to buy one and then learn later that the old one came with scarabs or what not.

To the best of my knowledge, none of the Destroyers come with scarabs. I think the two boxes should be the same. But in all honesty, if you wait until Nov 5th, you can probably pick up some Destroyers pretty cheap. Lots of people ran 15x Destroyers and 3 - 6x Heavy Destroyers. With the FoC shifting the Heavy Destroyers into the FA slot, and limiting the squad size from 5 to 3, I believe a lot of Necron players will have 6 or more destroyers up for sale in the near future. I'm sure you'l be able to do better than the $20 US each price tag, at least.

Kurgash wrote:

Bulkoth wrote:

Herr Dexter wrote:Too bad this Lord is not coming back in finecast recast...



He looks awsome, I would love to have him as Cryptec in my army. Any1 knows when and in what form exatly he was avilable?
Collector's guide says : "This Necron Lord was the special edition miniature in the 2002 Necron army set." meaning he was included in some box set?
Anyway, can't find him anywhere on ebay :(

I got ahold of one just recently in a trade. He was a limited edition lord that was only ever available in the old equivalent to a battle/megaforce.

Best of luck finding one!

Yeah I found one on ebay in April for about $50. A large chunk of change but as a Necron player, I felt I had to have him for my collection. Channeled a bit of Trazyn right there...

Seriously? I've... Always thought this Lord fig was particularly bad, and vastly preferred the standard issue one. I know I've got one of the limited Lords around here somewhere, unpainted, and I'm pretty sure I never even used it for bitz or anything. Gonna have to see if I can't dig that thing out of whatever pile it's found it's way into now if there's that much interest in it.

So are they slowly phasing out the green rods?

Or do you think the new kits have the options for the green rods too?

Seems odd that some kits still have those bits (obviously the older ones), while the newer ones don't.

geuss what, in belgium 3 minutes t'ill WD relaese...

exciting... xD

Medium of Death wrote:So are they slowly phasing out the green rods?

Or do you think the new kits have the options for the green rods too?

Seems odd that some kits still have those bits (obviously the older ones), while the newer ones don't.

Don't be silly...Phase Out doesn't exist anymore

Medium of Death wrote:So are they slowly phasing out the green rods?

*applauds*

hehe I have 2 of them old limited ed lords I love them.

Advance Orders should be up on the GW website in less than one hour. Midnight GMT (7 PM US Eastern Time) approaches!

Are we sure of this? Only 37minutes in that case...

Wait for it... Wait for it...

*shakes back and forward*

Medium of Death wrote:Are we sure of this? Only 37minutes in that case... Wait for it... Wait for it... *shakes back and forward*

As sure as you can be without insider info. Yes, Necrons release is next Saturday, Nov. 5 so Advance Orders go up one week earlier. That's just a very few minutes away now.

Notice how What's New Today didn't get updated yet today? That's because on Advance Order posting days they wait till the Advance Orders go up at midnight GMT and use it to advertise the new items.

Again, this is all SOP for GW since the "new reality" from them kicked in a few months ago.

The bat rep made it sound like a choice, not a roll.

I'm curious how well they're actually going to do. Arks cost quite a lot, so they're going to be mainly footslogging, and in 5th, obviously, not a good idea.

Fairly short range, so they can't snipe across the board.