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Ummmmm.....Is there some reason that I'm not getting that these are so expensive? Did GW press some solid gold models or something? Or is there something I don't know about these, albiet well painted, HIGHLY over priced models?

http://cgi.ebay.com/CHAOS-SPACE-MARINES-PLAGUE-MARINES-/250796695906?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a64a5e162

Well, they don't appear to be crap... Their value is therefore precisely what someone will be willing to pay for them.

If they don't sell at that price, then they will decrease in price at some stage until they reach a price where someone will buy them.

I fail to see the issue here, or in most of the other frequent posts about the exact same thing. The market will regulate the price of these propainted minis.

He's charging a (way too much) premium for being painted.

People often put stuff on eBay with high prices to see if they actually get it.

$35 for a box, leaves $107 for 7 marines.

It's not hard to find a commission painter charging $15 per model, especially if you want above-tabletop standards.

biccat wrote:$35 for a box, leaves $107 for 7 marines.

It's not hard to find a commission painter charging $15 per model, especially if you want above-tabletop standards.

really? I'm actually very surprised that everyone takes this so lightly, I now see your point of course and I suppose if I could paint like that I would charge around the same price, I geuss its just my $0 budget that made me freak over this.

Cypher's Sword wrote:

biccat wrote:$35 for a box, leaves $107 for 7 marines.

It's not hard to find a commission painter charging $15 per model, especially if you want above-tabletop standards.

really? I'm actually very surprised that everyone takes this so lightly, I now see your point of course and I suppose if I could paint like that I would charge around the same price, I geuss its just my $0 budget that made me freak over this.

Well, they're not great. If I'm going to pay $15 per model, I would go to someone who does a better job.

For example, Next Level Painting charges $10-12 per infantry model (power armor). And his work is incredible.

(see his Plague Marines)

I'm with biccat; not that I'm an awesome painter but I know dipped figs when I see them....mainly because I use that method myself...

Well, I'm best offering him $7.00 and we'll see how that goes.

It's like those 2000 point armies people put up for $1.5k. There's a shop near my house that has a 1500 hundred point Blood Angels army fully painted for $1.2k. It's been sitting on commission for almost half a year now. At some point some person may buy it and the artist stands to make almost a thousand dollars.

Or maybe the guy's just a jack ass.

Simple answer:

Don't like the price = Don't pay the price.

If someone else will, then good for them

Tabo wrote:It's like those 2000 point armies people put up for $1.5k. There's a shop near my house that has a 1500 hundred point Blood Angels army fully painted for $1.2k. It's been sitting on commission for almost half a year now. At some point some person may buy it and the artist stands to make almost a thousand dollars.

Did the BA painter only spend $200 on the army?

Balance wrote:

Tabo wrote:It's like those 2000 point armies people put up for $1.5k. There's a shop near my house that has a 1500 hundred point Blood Angels army fully painted for $1.2k. It's been sitting on commission for almost half a year now. At some point some person may buy it and the artist stands to make almost a thousand dollars.

Did the BA painter only spend $200 on the army?

I'm pretty sure one of the employees of the store bought the army at cost to the store and painted in on company time and in exchange the store gets a nice chunk. Just a theory. I work for a different game store. I've seen some of the inner machinations of pro painters.

It's just what the guy is asking, if you don't want to pay it give it a skip, I don't see the point in making a fuss.

It's not a totally ridiculous item like this one...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Warhammer-design-studio-piece-unreleased-rare-item-/320676026791?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item4aa9c7d9a7#ht_1182wt_1139

Which is totally bizarre. If it's a joke they don't mind paying to keep re-listing it.

One does have to ask how many hours it takes to paint minis. I usually take at least 1 hour to paint 1 mini. I can make $8 working an hour bagging groceries. Isn't it reasonable for me to ask $8 for an hour spent painting?

But others are correct. You don't have to pay. But I think he's within his rights to ask. And some people are willing to pay a fair for nice looking minis that they don't have to paint themselves. And while the models shown aren't spectacular, they're definitely at least as good as what I can do. And ah, I definitely don't have as much time to paint miniatures as I used to.

Yeah, they're actually not too bad. If you look the paint job is pretty decent. The painter has taken the time to do highlighting, of course shading via washes or dipping, and they're based nicely. I think it's just that most of the model is one color (but they are a type of Space Marines, so go figure) that is putting some people off. I think the price may be just a bit high, but not crazy.

The thing to me is that if I were going to pay that much for professionally painted models, I'd commission custom ones, not go through ebay hoping somebody did a pro paint job in the exact style i want.

Tabo wrote:Well, I'm best offering him $7.00 and we'll see how that goes.

It's like those 2000 point armies people put up for $1.5k. There's a shop near my house that has a 1500 hundred point Blood Angels army fully painted for $1.2k. It's been sitting on commission for almost half a year now. At some point some person may buy it and the artist stands to make almost a thousand dollars.

Or maybe the guy's just a jack ass.

I can't speak to the quality of those models specifically, but if well painted I don't think that's too unreasonable of an asking price.

My 3,000 point Death Guard army sold for just under $3,000 on ebay, and even with tons of Forge World pieces in there I made a lot of profit on the army.

It's worth what people are willing to pay. MGS is correct, the market will regulate itself.

Depends on what it is and who it is.

Victoria lamb threw her daemon winning "Fire & Ice" unit on ebay a while back (termies with femal inquis)
Model wise they cost about £40 at the most.
I missed the last few days, but it had topped £750 at that point.

Solorg wrote:One does have to ask how many hours it takes to paint minis. I usually take at least 1 hour to paint 1 mini. I can make $8 working an hour bagging groceries. Isn't it reasonable for me to ask $8 for an hour spent painting?

But others are correct. You don't have to pay. But I think he's within his rights to ask. And some people are willing to pay a fair for nice looking minis that they don't have to paint themselves. And while the models shown aren't spectacular, they're definitely at least as good as what I can do. And ah, I definitely don't have as much time to paint miniatures as I used to.

Indeed. When you think about how added value, the finisher must have spent at least 10 hours on painting and assembling the price isn't that bad.

However.....its still nuts to pay someone that price for something I enjoy doing.

Especially Nurgle models. Anyone can wash/drybrush their way into some nice looking putrid marines.

Ebay is full of pricey painted models. Shouldn't come as a surprise. Sometimes they sell. There are some auctions that get reposted week after week because the price is insane.

Ebay is sometimes odd like that. And yes, people sometimes do pay more than they should.

Here's a good example of something that sold a while back that I watched thinking "umm....": http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=200576323491&si=e86jCAu6eBCm4mtAdDP24ETYvH8%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AX%3ARTQ%3AUS%3A1123

It retails for $13.25 on the GW site. >.<

That's ebay for you: 1/2 the things on there are deals, or amazing steals, and the other 1/2 are ridiculously priced models, that someone's hoping to get lucky on.

I would argue the days of amazing steals being a commonplace thing on ebay have long gone. Picking up something at a great price is fairly difficult now, especially the GW stuff, as so many have been priced out of buying the minis new and are instead using ebay to purchase.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I would argue the days of amazing steals being a commonplace thing on ebay have long gone. Picking up something at a great price is fairly difficult now, especially the GW stuff, as so many have been priced out of buying the minis new and are instead using ebay to purchase.

I'd agree except for bits. sometimes you can find some really cheap auctions if you're willing to wait and watch.
then of course that leads to the boxes of plastic crack i have and may never get around to using....!

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I would argue the days of amazing steals being a commonplace thing on ebay have long gone. Picking up something at a great price is fairly difficult now, especially the GW stuff, as so many have been priced out of buying the minis new and are instead using ebay to purchase.

I agree with this as well. I remember just a few years ago being able to drop maybe $200 on a nicely painted @2,000 point army, and there being many choices out there. Now you can still find deals like that but they are much fewer and more far between than in the past.

What gets me though are some of the paint commission companies that do regular business on ebay. They put out a beautiful product, and maybe sell a 1,500-2,000 point army for around $800-$1,000, but the models or units in the army don't work together or just make an army with no synergy. I wouldn't have a problem paying $1,000 for a really nicely painted army but I want it to be competitive or at least fun to use. You'd think the guys doing the work would have some idea of what really works in these armies and could put out a package with some synergy.

Solorg wrote:One does have to ask how many hours it takes to paint minis. I usually take at least 1 hour to paint 1 mini. I can make $8 working an hour bagging groceries. Isn't it reasonable for me to ask $8 for an hour spent painting?

Yes! why should you be allowed to earn $8 doing something you enjoy when the rest of us have to bag groceries for the same amount!

Earning money is not about fun and enjoyment! it's about toil and suffering! that's why they call it work!

As for the movement tray thing, firstly why would someone think that because the incredibly well-used poorly made movement tray came from GW HQ it is worth £5 (when the much superior modular movement tray is only £1.15 extra) and secondly, why the hell are there people out there willing to pay for things like that!

You know what, I don't have a problem with any of this. If there is a market for your stuff, go for it. I certainly am not going to bid on any of this stuff.

What I do have a problem with is new in box stuff. How do people think that they can list still shrink wrapped things for the same or even more than GW? Look at these tau battleforces: http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=tau+battleforce&_sacat=See-All-Categories Three of the four up there are still closed battleforces, all priced above what GW sells them for. Anyone operating at normal human capacity is going to see that, turn right around and order from GW for a lower price. Its just redicuolous, how any one thinks these will sell. I once saw a box of terminators for $50 with a shipping price of $15. I messaged that guy and let him know whats up. His reply: "Feth off". I honestly don't understand some people.

micahaphone wrote:...the other 1/2 are ridiculously priced models, that someone's hoping to get lucky on.

Throw out enough lines, you're bound to get a bite eventually.


King Ghidorah

Cypher's Sword wrote:Ummmmm.....Is there some reason that I'm not getting that these are so expensive? Did GW press some solid gold models or something? Or is there something I don't know about these, albiet well painted, HIGHLY over priced models?

http://cgi.ebay.com/CHAOS-SPACE-MARINES-PLAGUE-MARINES-/250796695906?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a64a5e162

I heard that the guy selling those has a pact with the dark ones, and those models really walk around the table, slagging opponents and leaving piles of melted plastic in thier wake....

Others have said it better then I, but feebay lives up to it's reputation, once again. Other then that- The guy has a overinflated sense of worth of that paint job.

Cypher's Sword wrote:Ummmmm.....Is there some reason that I'm not getting that these are so expensive? Did GW press some solid gold models or something? Or is there something I don't know about these, albiet well painted, HIGHLY over priced models?

Nope, while the prices of GW models and supplies make you contemplate if things are gilded, this auctioneer is inferring that his paint work is worth 142$. Even though I dont think the quality of this work is worth $20.29 per/model, to buy them new they are $5 a model, so maybe its not a terrible asking price.