Switch Theme:

Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in us
Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus





The Great Satan (East Coast)

Patience, one must learn to savor the moment. Assembling these lower legs, as basic a structure as they are, teaches us how to build in strength with a minimum of material. I have assembled a box beam structure out of thin plastic and glue that can easily sustain for years if needs be a weight of 50 lbs or more. The ankle to leg joint likewise. There will be no need for buttresses as in the DS model (A problem he acknowledged in his sparse construction text.) except for decorative purposes plus the leg is moveable.

To quote the old carpenter's maxim, "Measure twice cut once." or the old Italian carpenter's lament, "Sunnva bitcha I cutta thisa two times and it'sa still too short!"


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Okay where's the post?
[Thumb - GEDC0011.JPG]

[Thumb - GEDC0012.JPG]

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/13 11:05:49


"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
 
   
Made in gb
Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'






Hey I know there's a new post around here someplace, I saw it just a second ago......... I found it!

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/13 11:44:47


http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/381018.page GET YER MEK ON, JOIN DA ORK VEHICLE BILDIN' CONTEST TADAY!
 
   
Made in us
Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle






Near Boston

one trick they used in Aircraft mfg in WW2 was drilling/milling/manufacturing with holes to remove non neccessary material from struts and beams.

Link to my Index Thread here on dakka


Find me on Twitter Sam Butler @Rivet_Zone

Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
"Sic Vis Pachem Parabellum" - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Veni, Vidi discessi.-Galorn. 
   
Made in us
Oozing Plague Marine Terminator





Las Vegas, Nevada

It's called lightened strut or lightened girder. I used the technique on the interior walls of my Reaver and it looks good. This type of infrastructure on the legs may actually benefit from it, Black, it it can be done structurally sound and still provide a lighter piece.

Mainly though it is one of those 50's retro scifi looks for design purposes.......

You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass

 
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut





Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada

It's fun to see something like this move along at a resonable pace~!

Good job!

DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR!
23,000pts Black Legion including all cults
3500pts Bugs
4000pts Aurora Chapter
1850pts Traitor Guard
Check out My Store Thunder Games and Gifts!


 
   
Made in us
Oozing Plague Marine Terminator





Las Vegas, Nevada

Yes, that above, Black. But don't let your usual quality suffer for speed.....


What am I saying, I know you won't do that.....

You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass

 
   
Made in us
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





The rarefied atmosphere

the feet look great. Are you going to add anything for little extra detail like a mesh grill or anything? The plasticard looks great but is flat. just a thought.

The USS Orinoco was a Federation Danube-class runabout that was in service with Starfleet in the late 24th century, attached to Deep Space 9. It was outfitted with a sensor pod.

http://orinoco.imgur.com/ 
   
Made in gb
Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan






Somewhere In Time And Space

Orinoco wrote:the feet look great. Are you going to add anything for little extra detail like a mesh grill or anything? The plasticard looks great but is flat. just a thought.


A lot of detail is gained when painting is done, and the old adage "less is more" is applicable on something this size.


"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
Made in us
Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus





The Great Satan (East Coast)

I was just looking at the door of my microwave and the inner shield is a lattice of 1/16 inch holes. I need to find a defunct microwave and retrieve the door panel It's ideal for grills and detail and would make perfect PSP panels for trench floors and roadways.



There is nothing to be gained from lightening the lower legs But when I get to the torso I'd like to attempt interior detail something I haven't done as yet and is sure to add months to the construction time. Now where to put the loo?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:...................A lot of detail is gained when painting is done, and the old adage "less is more" is applicable on something this size.


You obviously haven't studied the DS Warlord. There a layers upon layers of detail and its what makes that model seem so real.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/04/13 18:46:41


"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
 
   
Made in gb
Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan






Somewhere In Time And Space

I dare you to put the Urinals above the crotch housing, and the seated toilets above the rear

all with suitable drainage lol


"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
Made in us
Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus





The Great Satan (East Coast)

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:I dare you to put the Urinals above the crotch housing, and the seated toilets above the rear

all with suitable drainage lol


Just remember in the winter don't eat the blue ice.

Dare accepted.

Triturator alligator.

"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
 
   
Made in gb
Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan






Somewhere In Time And Space

haha win!!!

"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
Made in us
Oozing Plague Marine Terminator





Las Vegas, Nevada

That is gonna a relieving site to behold.........


LOL

You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass

 
   
Made in gb
Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan






Somewhere In Time And Space




"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
Made in us
Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus





The Great Satan (East Coast)

Macro setting didn't work too well but these are just interim images There will be others later. To reinforce the ankle joint I applied arc segments for the spacer slides to ride on. This model will be of considerable mass, I figure about 7 kilo, so these shanks must be protected from torsion effects.


[Thumb - GEDC0014.JPG]

[Thumb - GEDC0015.JPG]

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/04/14 08:49:26


"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
 
   
Made in gb
Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan






Somewhere In Time And Space

tis a tad blurry Black.

Are you working on enclosing the box now? also, how much stengthening is there within the box?


"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
Made in us
Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus





The Great Satan (East Coast)

My bracing will consist of two box beams sharing a common center wall the two spacers top and bottom serve as floor and ceiling respectively for the joint gears. The structure is rather sturdy to that I can attest.

"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
 
   
Made in gb
Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan






Somewhere In Time And Space

Awesome, I was curious about that, thanks


"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
Made in us
Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws






Virginia

The_Blackadder wrote:To reinforce the ankle joint I applied arc segments for the spacer slides to ride on.


At first I thought those were decorative in terms of just bulking up that piece and breaking up the smoothness of it with paneling. But it actually rides on the little lip created?

Terrain Blog Reaver Blog Guide to assembling Forge World Warhound titan
"So if I want to paint my house green, even if everyone else thinks it should be red, guess what? I'm going to paint it Jar-Jar." -George Lucas 
   
Made in us
Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus





The Great Satan (East Coast)

You know after I installed those slides I had an epiphany, What if I cut cogs in the slides and used a toothed gear to actuate the semicircle, how would that be? I'll have to redesign the slides a bit but it would make perfect sense to have that as the mechanism.

Meanwhile todays run not as much as I had hoped for but I had to repair the porch.
[Thumb - 5691625672_388245a7cb_o.jpg]
Curved cog and pinion

[Thumb - Rack And Pinion.jpg]
side view

[Thumb - GEDC0017.JPG]
Stepping out

[Thumb - GEDC0018.JPG]
You'll have to imagine the rest but the picture height isn't as high as the shoulder mounted lascannons


"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
 
   
Made in gb
Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan






Somewhere In Time And Space

Looking good there Black, and yeah the cog & pinion idea seems sound... but, my only thing against it is that something so big wouldnt use cogs and gears as the stress and strain of constant use would more than likely strip the teeth from the cogs.




Automatically Appended Next Post:

If your wanting aesthetic value, then go for it.

but if you want it to "make sense" then maybe there is another option available?

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/16 00:09:22


"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
Made in us
Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus





The Great Satan (East Coast)

Pounce! Looking at the DS model the disc in question has very shallow strangely shaped teeth I will probably duplicate those but the cogs intrigue me just from the visual sections alone there could be for sets of cogs and pinions with who knows how many hidden in the shank sleeve.

Just looking at your avatar prompted the "Pounce!"

"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
 
   
Made in gb
Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan






Somewhere In Time And Space

lols, mad scientist kitteh awaits mad science ^_^

Fair enough then, I can't exactly fault your logic Black, it's been spotless so far


"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
Made in us
Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus





The Great Satan (East Coast)

I wasn't going to post this until I rectified the problem but then I thought, "Hey this is a good thing to demonstrate that even the Blackadder isn't infallible " and has to go back to the drawing board now and then.

Seems I made the shanks too long by about an inch. measuring for the upper leg somehow the proportions just didn't look right so I remeasured and sure enough I managed to add an extra inch to the overall height.

So what's an inch you may say but to me it will change the look of the finished model from a hulking looming menace to a spindle shanked travesty ergo I shall be cutting the lower legs in half and removing the offending inch but not yet as I may have to do other things as well so might as well do all at once.
[Thumb - GEDC0025.JPG]

[Thumb - GEDC0026.JPG]

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/04/18 02:28:45


"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
 
   
Made in gb
Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan






Somewhere In Time And Space

Black, your alive! HUZZAH!!!

are you sure that Warlord isn't just growing before your eyes?


On a more serious note, loving the shape and curvature of the upper thigh. is the aim for pistons as the main joint extender/decreaser?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Is it me or did the pictures vanish before my eyes? O_o

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/18 02:22:13


"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
Made in us
Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus





The Great Satan (East Coast)

I had to edit the images a bit. I'm not quite sure what you mean by pistons.

The curve is there in both the DS and Epic model to accommodate the upper leg armour otherwise it will interfere with the knee disc when it intersects with the greave.

Now that I look at the pictures I wonder whether the feet are big enough!

"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
 
   
Made in gb
Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan






Somewhere In Time And Space

By pistons I mean pneumatic rams, like you see on digger arms and such.



O_o Don't know how I missed that curve on the originals

I think the feet probably don't look big enough because you don't have the other toes attached yet. when they are on, I think it'll increase the overall aesthetics of them, as well as show a larger area of footfall.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/18 02:51:56


"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
Made in au
Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!






Adelaide, Australia

So much detail as usual! Great work!

Notice: If you notice this notice you will notice that this notice is not worth noticing
 
   
Made in us
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





The rarefied atmosphere

nice to see it start to rise!

The USS Orinoco was a Federation Danube-class runabout that was in service with Starfleet in the late 24th century, attached to Deep Space 9. It was outfitted with a sensor pod.

http://orinoco.imgur.com/ 
   
Made in us
Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus





The Great Satan (East Coast)

The following is my answer to a question involving the cog mechanism on another forum:

"First of all it will only be a simulated cog drive I don't need the pinion gear as it will be hidden in the shank. slicing off the 0.5 mm sheet styrene will take a matter of minutes and fabricating the cog detents

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detent

about an hour but it really would make sense of the quadrant (semicircle; still awaiting our erudite British readers to come up with a viable alternative for semicircle. There's gotta be a proper word for this device but it escapes my watered down provincial colonial education. ) mechanism.

Now the real beauty of this is I have made sense of the vertical disc at the knee joint. Think of it as a flywheel rotation at various speeds depending on how fast the titan is walking. A simple clutch mechanism engaging and dropping out at propitious intervals allow the knee to flex for the step with a minimum of computer input. The only caveat would be in turning which would be performed by accelerating either the left or right flywheel. ( I rarely use this word but COOL!)."

This message was edited 5 times. Last update was at 2012/04/18 20:51:07


"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
 
   
 
Forum Index » Dakka P&M Blogs
Go to: