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**aka_mythos**

Lovepug13 wrote:
odorofdeath wrote:All I ask is for psychic Tzeentch dreadnoughts.

And Ahriman to not suck.

And for Thousand Sons to not suck.

Sigh.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS x 100 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Also.....Psyker Dreadnoughts, Obliterator Dreadnoughts, Bezerker Dreadnoughts, Sonic Dreadnoughts and Possesed Dreadnoughts as mentioned...

Also Cultists, Alpha Legion, Night Lords and other cool stuff.... Keeping my fingers crossed

I proposed the the Possessed and Obliterator dreadnought some time ago ... but that was because I think having god dedicated dreadnoughts is repetitive and unimaginative and adequately covered just by making available the appropriate weapon options, as opposed to complete and separate unit entries. Undivided dreadnought flavors helps more than individual Chaos armies. That its a far more characterful representation of God dedicated units to have god dedicated daemon engines. I think its counter-intuitive for something that supposed to be used as a punishment would be at the center of veneration to the chaos gods.

This is largely a semantic argument... its less an argument of "if" but "how." A dreadnought being able to "X" and thus be regarded as a bezerker is fine, but obviously having 6 distinct dreadnought entries is too much.

For Thousand Sons... I always thought Rubric Dreadnoughts made more sense the sorcerer dreadnoughts but maybe that's just me.

**kenshin620**

Alpharius wrote:
ph34r wrote:If the 6e rumors are true, then Thousand Sons are already on the way to greatness.

What rumors are these?

Not the recently debunked ones, right?

Is he talking about Pancake Edition rules or the chaos dex rules? That may clear up what hes trying to say

**ZebioLizard2**

For Thousand Sons... I always thought Rubric Dreadnoughts made more sense the sorcerer dreadnoughts but maybe that's just me.

I thought Rubric refers to the "All Is Dust" Marines turned in their suits, not the sorcerers that led them

**ph34r**

kenshin620 wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
ph34r wrote:If the 6e rumors are true, then Thousand Sons are already on the way to greatness.

What rumors are these?

Not the recently debunked ones, right?

Is he talking about Pancake Edition rules or the chaos dex rules? That may clear up what hes trying to say

Yes, in pancake edition thousand sons become mega OP for having built in invulnerables in a "cover is weak" edition, AP3 bolters in again a "cover is weak" edition, and who can rapid fire bolters out to 18" with the new relentless.

EDIT: Well not "mega OP", but at least they become good

**Alpharius**

I don't think those things are going to happen...

All is dust indeed!

**ph34r**

Alpharius wrote:I don't think those things are going to happen...

All is dust indeed!

Recently debunked? I saw no such debunking. Do you have a link to the evidence that disproved the 6e pancake edition leak?

EDIT: to clarify not trying to argue at all, I am interested to know if pancake edition has been definitively debunked!

**ZebioLizard2**

ph34r wrote:
kenshin620 wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
ph34r wrote:If the 6e rumors are true, then Thousand Sons are already on the way to greatness.

What rumors are these?

Not the recently debunked ones, right?

Is he talking about Pancake Edition rules or the chaos dex rules? That may clear up what hes trying to say
Yes, in pancake edition thousand sons become mega OP for having built in invulnerables in a "cover is weak" edition, AP3 bolters in again a "cover is weak" edition, and who can rapid fire bolters out to 18" with the new relentless.

EDIT: Well not "mega OP", but at least they become good

And AP3 also negated FNP, so it was even better.

Though in all honesty, I think thousand sons players would just love to play with that after being the worst option in the codex. (Even after Slaanesh must buy sonic weapons at an inflated prices!)

**aka_mythos**

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

For Thousand Sons... I always thought Rubric Dreadnoughts made more sense the sorcerer dreadnoughts but maybe that's just me.

I thought Rubric refers to the "All Is Dust" Marines turned in their suits, not the sorcerers that led them

And since Chaos Marines use their Dreadnoughts as a form of punishment... is a psycho psyker in a dreadnought going to be at all controllable? As opposed to a more run of the mill thousand son marine who is once again a soul confined to an enclosed and sealed piece of armor. A dreadnought with the ability to ignore some damage and to fire as if it didn't move while shooting similarly ensorcelled AP3 rounds from bolter weapons has a certain appeal and are easier to incorporate. While a thousand son sorcerer dreadnought insists upon a unique unit entry.

**organ splinter**

id quiet like more specific lords, like noise marine lord with doom siren or just in general ie sonic weapons on dreadnoughts and stuff!

maybe more stuff like the space marines have, like tank variations, land speeders and junk

**aka_mythos**

Wargear options is quite appropriate, but copying land speeders from Loyalists is simply dull. Even if GW wanted to give Chaos a unit that functions like a land speeder I'd beg for something like the blight drone instead.

**organ splinter**

yeah id just like more choice so you can have more varied army lists and cheaper dreadclaws lol £88 is way to much even if they are really cool looking

**odorofdeath**

Chaos Biker army, led by Doomrider, anyone?

**Cyvash**

aka_mythos wrote:Wargear options is quite appropriate, but copying land speeders from Loyalists is simply dull. Even if GW wanted to give Chaos a unit that functions like a land speeder I'd beg for something like the blight drone instead.

I think i might just be the blight drone using the same rules if that happened....though they probably only be used with a death guard or heavily marked nurgle army,

**ZebioLizard2**

Cyvash wrote:
aka_mythos wrote:Wargear options is quite appropriate, but copying land speeders from Loyalists is simply dull. Even if GW wanted to give Chaos a unit that functions like a land speeder I'd beg for something like the blight drone instead.

I think i might just be the blight drone using the same rules if that happened....though they probably only be used with a death guard or heavily marked nurgle army,

Actually undivided use them from time to time, they are really just daemonic machines after all. They were even in the undivided army of Nemroth in Space Marine.

**Durza**

odorofdeath wrote:Chaos Biker army, led by Doomrider, anyone?

There's not enough cocaine in the world to make an army of them.

**odorofdeath**

There's not enough cocaine in the world to make an army of them.

You may be right, but by Slaanesh, we can try.

**wyomingfox**

ph34r wrote:
Alpharius wrote:I don't think those things are going to happen...

All is dust indeed!
Recently debunked? I saw no such debunking. Do you have a link to the evidence that disproved the 6e pancake edition leak?

EDIT: to clarify not trying to argue at all, I am interested to know if pancake edition has been definitively debunked!

Hastings put it to death.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/3060/422519.page#3855879

**Alpharius**

We're drifting into "Wishlist' territory here too...

I hope there are some new rumors soon!

**odorofdeath**

Honestly, I don't see much difference between the two.

**aka_mythos**

One is based on wants and desires... the other is based on substantiated or insubstantiated hearsay recollecting models, designs, elements, ideas, units, description, illustrations, art, or cocaine driven characters that may appear in a particular companies book.

**Samus_aran115**

Durza wrote:
odorofdeath wrote:Chaos Biker army, led by Doomrider, anyone?

There's not enough cocaine in the world to make an army of them.

Also, I like the idea of obliterator dreadnoughts, although I think they'd turn out OP and everyone would spam them, unless they had some drawback... Since they're usually sort of nomadic wanderers, it would make sense if they left the game after a certain portion of the force is destroyed... I doubt obliterators would stay with their customers simply out of loyalty.

Possessed Dreads could work, although they would have to be assault MONSTERS for there to be any reason to use them. Like, 5 attacks +D6 extra attacks or something.

**Alpharius**

odorofdeath wrote:Honestly, I don't see much difference between the two.

Honestly, there's a big difference.

aka_mythos wrote:One is based on wants and desires... the other is based on substantiated or insubstantiated hearsay recollecting models, designs, elements, ideas, units, description, illustrations, art, or cocaine driven characters that may appear in a particular companies book.

And there it is!

So... moving forward, anything from the "Wishlisting" category might be considered 'spam'.

Please try to restrict conversation to actual rumors and the discussion thereof - thanks!

**Starfarer**

Here's a new tidbit on possible spring release for Chaos.

StraightSilver wrote:Sorry guys, didn't mean to sound like a tease.

Essentially I was trying to get confirmation from someone regarding an earlier email that I had been sent.

I had read the following email as confirmation of the rumour initially, but then on re-reading it realised that that may not have been the case.

I read "you can post that if you want " as confirmation, but in hindsight it may not necessarily be confirmation but somebody just yanking my chain.

So essentially I have Chaos coming some time between May and June, which I have been told I can post (doesn't mean it's right though...), but my earlier prediction for Dark Angels was apparently off.

Doesn't mean they're not coming, just that I have no idea when.

It's doesn't appear to be as easy to get any info out of anybody at the moment, and anything I am hearing is either a bit vague or maybe an attempt to see just how much of what I am told I put up on the internet.

The stuff I have put up is stuff I have been told I can post, anything else has to remain secret for now I'm afraid.

**Lockark**

Well. At-least his being straight foreword with the community and transparent. That's all we can ask really and makes me respect him alot.

**Chaos Cajun**

I don't know about you guys, but I want a Dark Apostle character released.

**Obsidian Raven**

Chaos Cajun wrote:I don't know about you guys, but I want a Dark Apostle character released.

I agree, that would be amazing

**Semper**

Personally I would rather the other, original characters get sorted out before we get any new ones. Ahriman needs an overhaul to represent his sheer awesomeness a lot more and Abaddon, Kharn and Lucius all need tweaks.

**Harriticus**

Converting Dark Apostle is a bitch. Right now the best combination I think is a plastic Chaos Lord with a SM Chaplin Crozius Arcanum. Replace the eagle with a Chaos Star from spikey bits, preferrably the little Chaos insignia that comes on top of the battle standard for WHFB Chaos Warriors. Then get Grey Knights bits for scripture on the armor.

So yeah, it's annoying...

**Brother SRM**

A plastic Dark Apostle is wicked easy. Dark Angels robed body, Chaos Marine skull helmet, Dark Angels power mace bit with a Chaos star head, and that's all you need to do. It's insanely easy to get a convincing Dark Apostle.

**Samus_aran115**

Brother SRM wrote:A plastic Dark Apostle is wicked easy. Dark Angels robed body, Chaos Marine skull helmet, Dark Angels power mace bit with a Chaos star head, and that's all you need to do. It's insanely easy to get a convincing Dark Apostle.

Yeah, totally. I see no reason for GW to release a dark apostle model. There's so many freaking bits you can use from fantasy chaos it's not even funny.

Glad this thread is still alive. I wish we'd hear some updated dates. Is it july then? I should be in basic training, lol...