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2011/04/12 02:37:05
Subject: Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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As many will suggest, Either the primarchs are either MIA or KIA. So where are the missing in action guys?
As far as i know these are the ones that I know of.
Ultra Marines - Alive I believe, Nothing I read said anything about Roboute Guilliman being dead. Just something about being attacked on their way to help so they missed much of the war and by the time they arrived the war was over.
Blood Angel - Possibly still alive in his crpyt thing under the emperor regenerating etc. Possible rumors fly that emperor is dead and it is actually him whos power is felt from the golden throne.
Space Wolves - Leman Russ apparently was busy doing something or hesitated to come to the aid of the emperor during the war. I hear mixed stories. So either way, Leman russ....the faithful little doggie he is felt really bad and probably blames himself for the emperors death. So Russ is in "Time-Out" inside of the eye of terror...doing...something.
As far as the others...I dunno where they are.
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2011/04/12 04:32:03
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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Angron - Warp as Daemon Prince
Perturabo - Warp as Daemon Prince
Lorgar - Warp as Daemon Prince
Mortarion - Warp as Daemon Prince
Magnus - Warp as Daemon Prince
Alpharius - one or both of him still alive, location unknown
Fulgrim - trapped in his body possessed by a daemon, in Warp
Guilliman - in stasis on Macragge, dying
Jonson - sleeping on the Rock
Russ - leading 13th company of Space Wolves in Eye of Terror
Corax - Eye of Terror
Khan - imprisoned in Commoragh
Vulkan - unknown
All the rest are absolutely dead.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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2011/04/12 10:17:54
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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DarknessEternal wrote:Angron - Warp as Daemon Prince
Perturabo - Warp as Daemon Prince
Lorgar - Warp as Daemon Prince
Mortarion - Warp as Daemon Prince
Magnus - Warp as Daemon Prince
Alpharius - one or both of him still alive, location unknown
Fulgrim - trapped in his body possessed by a daemon, in Warp
Guilliman - in stasis on Macragge, dying
Jonson - sleeping on the Rock
Russ - leading 13th company of Space Wolves in Eye of Terror
Corax - Eye of Terror
Khan - imprisoned in Commoragh
Vulkan - unknown
All the rest are absolutely dead.
Aren't Ferrus on Mars?
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2011/04/12 10:21:05
Subject: Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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Isn't Fulgrim a Daemon Pince too?
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2011/04/12 10:23:29
Subject: Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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2011/04/12 10:43:07
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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Is Magnus an actual Daemon Prince as we know it?
Unless he went under further transformations later on.
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2011/04/12 11:04:23
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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Magnus is very much a daemon yes. look at the epic fluff. Theres an actual model of him for crying out loud and its massive, has wings and 1 eye. granted the model is ancient but the fluff is there.
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2011/04/12 11:30:57
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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Medium of Death wrote:Is Magnus an actual Daemon Prince as we know it?
Unless he went under further transformations later on.
I think he is to.. If you read the part when he describes how he looks when he warns the Emperor and then the part at the end when he arrives at there new planet... They seem pretty much the same to me..
Shoulda put when you read the book "Thousand sons" lol...
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2011/04/12 11:57:16
Subject: Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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I thought Khan was just lost in the warp after going through a webway?
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2011/04/12 12:34:44
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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Brother Coa wrote:
Aren't Ferrus on Mars?
Spoiler from Fulgrim about the fate of Ferrus Manus;
ZacktheChaosChild wrote:Isn't Fulgrim a Daemon Pince too?
Spoiler from Fulgrim about the fate of Fulgrim;
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2011/04/12 15:33:04
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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DarknessEternal wrote:Angron - Warp as Daemon Prince
Perturabo - Warp as Daemon Prince
Lorgar - Warp as Daemon Prince
Mortarion - Warp as Daemon Prince
Magnus - Warp as Daemon Prince
Alpharius - one or both of him still alive, location unknown
Fulgrim - trapped in his body possessed by a daemon, in Warp
Guilliman - in stasis on Macragge, dying Not necessarily actually dying. in fact, it's rumoured he's healing. Considering he's in stasis, both dying and healing is thought to be impossible
Jonson - sleeping on the Rock
Russ - leading 13th company of Space Wolves in Eye of Terror Russ actually disappeared into the eye of terror. It's unknown what's happened since then and it's HIGHLY likely he's not leading the 13th Company as he simply gave them a mission and then went into the EoT separately and the 13th company didn't mention him during the Black Crusade. Some of his armour/spear has been found, suggesting he may have perished within the EoT.
Corax - Eye of Terror Also unknown. He was last seen heading towards the EoT, what actually happened is anyones guess.
Khan - imprisoned in Commoragh I've never heard any fluff stating that Khan is imprisoned and such a thing happening is highly unlikely. He simply pursued the Dark Eldar into the webway, what happened after that is anyones guess.
Vulkan - unknown
It's theorised by some that it's actually Horus on the Golden Throne, but again, this is highly unlikely. Angron hasn't been seen since being banished by the Grey Knights AFAIK. Curze has been confirmed as dead, as has Ferrus.
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- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
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2011/04/12 15:45:35
Subject: Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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there was once a snippet of info about a great warrior being held in the great dark city, and since khan followed the dark eldar into the webway it does make some sense he is held there and must fight in their arena killing all opponents.
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2011/04/12 15:53:03
Subject: Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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Legendary Dogfighter
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Tmonster wrote:there was once a snippet of info about a great warrior being held in the great dark city, and since khan followed the dark eldar into the webway it does make some sense he is held there and must fight in their arena killing all opponents.
It would make an epic piece of fluff actually. " Jaghatai Khan was captured by the DE 9000 years ago. Since then, he has become the greatest gladiator the DE ever knew, winning all his fights and killing uncountable ennemies in the cruel arenas of Commoragh." Truly epic. It would be like the film Gladiator, but set in the grim dark future of the 41st millenium.
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2011/04/12 16:30:49
Subject: Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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I read the Russ went into the EoT after he heard that Johnson was sucked into it...
Jokes on him i guess...
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2011/04/12 16:34:08
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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It is not confirmed, that Rogal Dorn is dead, since only his skeletonized hand was found. There is some fluff that says he escaped from the Chaos battleship though.
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2011/04/12 16:39:28
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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DarknessEternal wrote:Angron - Warp as Daemon Prince
Perturabo - Warp as Daemon Prince
Lorgar - Warp as Daemon Prince
Mortarion - Warp as Daemon Prince
Magnus - Warp as Daemon Prince
Alpharius - one or both of him still alive, location unknown
Fulgrim - trapped in his body possessed by a daemon, in Warp
Guilliman - in stasis on Macragge, dying
Jonson - sleeping on the Rock
Russ - leading 13th company of Space Wolves in Eye of Terror
Corax - Eye of Terror
Khan - imprisoned in Commoragh
Vulkan - unknown
All the rest are absolutely dead.
Vulkan is dead more or less, listen to raven's flight to understand what i mean
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2011/04/12 16:57:20
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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I thought Khan was tricked into the webway by the Dark Eldar as opposed to actually being in Commoragh. And wasn't the 13th great company actually found, minus Russ?
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2011/04/12 16:57:30
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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Necanor wrote:It is not confirmed, that Rogal Dorn is dead, since only his skeletonized hand was found. There is some fluff that says he escaped from the Chaos battleship though.
It is confirmed actually...
They recovered his body.
From what i read anyway...
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2011/04/12 17:12:18
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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purplefood wrote:Necanor wrote:It is not confirmed, that Rogal Dorn is dead, since only his skeletonized hand was found. There is some fluff that says he escaped from the Chaos battleship though.
It is confirmed actually...
They recovered his body.
From what i read anyway...
All that was recovered was a set of hands not the rest of the body.
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2011/04/12 18:41:38
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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TyraelVladinhurst wrote:
Vulkan is dead more or less, listen to raven's flight to understand what i mean
Dead "more or less" ? Undead?
Really, ravens flight isn't about salamanders, there is just 1 loyal legion represented.....
Plus, Vulkan agreed to the second founding, ( 7 years after Horus death...) and his Sons still search him. So MIA would be the correct term.
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2011/04/12 18:50:41
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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1hadhq wrote:TyraelVladinhurst wrote:
Vulkan is dead more or less, listen to raven's flight to understand what i mean
Dead "more or less" ? Undead?
Really, ravens flight isn't about salamanders, there is just 1 loyal legion represented.....
Plus, Vulkan agreed to the second founding, ( 7 years after Horus death...) and his Sons still search him. So MIA would be the correct term.
Right, he dissapeard many years after the heresy. He also said, that if all 7 items of Vulkan are found, he will return.
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2011/04/12 19:07:57
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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DarknessEternal wrote:Angron - Warp as Daemon Prince
Guilliman - in stasis on Macragge, dying
Jonson - sleeping on the Rock
Russ - leading 13th company of Space Wolves in Eye of Terror
Corax - Eye of Terror
Khan - imprisoned in Commoragh
Vulkan - unknown
All the rest are absolutely dead.
Guilliman is a loser. He came back with out getting his hands dirty in the HH and prety much established him and his chapter as lords of the SMs.
Jonson-not sure
Russ is not leading the 13th- what happened is on Prospero Magnus legged it into the EoT with most of his chapter, and Russ sent the 13th in to catch him up.
Corax i've got no idea again
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2011/04/12 19:13:10
Subject: Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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The only loyalist one that is DEFINETLY alive is Lion'el Jonson. The rest are either confirmed dead, rumoured to be dead or MIA.
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2011/04/12 19:18:54
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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Bloodfrenzy187 wrote:purplefood wrote:Necanor wrote:It is not confirmed, that Rogal Dorn is dead, since only his skeletonized hand was found. There is some fluff that says he escaped from the Chaos battleship though.
It is confirmed actually...
They recovered his body.
From what i read anyway...
All that was recovered was a set of hands not the rest of the body.
Not from what i read.
IIRC it says in the Index Astartes II that his remains were recovered and the body without it's hands are kept in clear amber.
His hands are kept in the Phalanx's chapel and are engraved with the previous masters of the chapter.
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2011/04/15 16:39:46
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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Before you all shout at me I'm not being serious!
As mentioned before the only loyalist Primarch confirmed as still alive is the Lion.
Wouldn't he be a cool Special Character for their next Codex! 
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2011/04/15 16:42:53
Subject: Re:Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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Just Dave wrote:DarknessEternal wrote:Russ - leading 13th company of Space Wolves in Eye of Terror Russ actually disappeared into the eye of terror. It's unknown what's happened since then and it's HIGHLY likely he's not leading the 13th Company as he simply gave them a mission and then went into the EoT separately and the 13th company didn't mention him during the Black Crusade. Some of his armour/spear has been found, suggesting he may have perished within the EoT.
Shudders at the thought of Russ running around naked killing daemons with his bare hands.
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2011/04/15 17:24:54
Subject: Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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FYI, Guilliman is not actually dying/or dead. Hes actually very much alive, just in a coma in a time locked stasis thanks to Fulgrim's Poison. Hes actually the only Primarch whose location is exactly known because all the rest are either speculated or not really known.
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2011/04/15 17:46:19
Subject: Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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Helio5287 wrote:FYI, Guilliman is not actually dying/or dead. Hes actually very much alive, just in a coma in a time locked stasis thanks to Fulgrim's Poison. Hes actually the only Primarch whose location is exactly known because all the rest are either speculated or not really known.
Stasis is as good as dead.
If they take him out of stasis he will die...
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2011/04/16 02:49:47
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Helio5287 wrote:FYI, Guilliman is not actually dying/or dead. Hes actually very much alive, just in a coma in a time locked stasis thanks to Fulgrim's Poison. Hes actually the only Primarch whose location is exactly known because all the rest are either speculated or not really known.
Hardly. The only Primarchs whose fates and locations are unknown are Leman Russ, Vulkan, Alpharius/Omegon, the Khan and Corax.
Magnus, Angron, Mortarion, Fulgrim, Lorgar and Purterabo are all Daemon Princes on their respective Daemon worlds. Lion El Johnson is in stasis in the Rock, Rogal dorns hands and body are in Phalanx, his body preserved in amber. The rest are dead, with recorded locations where they died.
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2011/04/16 05:54:16
Subject: Where are the primarchs who are still alive?
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-Loki- wrote:Helio5287 wrote:FYI, Guilliman is not actually dying/or dead. Hes actually very much alive, just in a coma in a time locked stasis thanks to Fulgrim's Poison. Hes actually the only Primarch whose location is exactly known because all the rest are either speculated or not really known.
Hardly. The only Primarchs whose fates and locations are unknown are Leman Russ, Vulkan, Alpharius/Omegon, the Khan and Corax.
Magnus, Angron, Mortarion, Fulgrim, Lorgar and Purterabo are all Daemon Princes on their respective Daemon worlds. Lion El Johnson is in stasis in the Rock, Rogal dorns hands and body are in Phalanx, his body preserved in amber. The rest are dead, with recorded locations where they died.
actually Angron is tearing a hole in ultramarine space at the moment... he's the only deamon primarch that's actually doing something
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