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Hey there, I am inquiring on your opinions on The Royal Wedding of Prince William and Kate.
Please use the poll and, if you want, write in!

In my opinion, I don't care, and in a way, disapprove. I thought when democracy moved in, we wanted to RID our selves the form of government that terrorized us(us being the Europeans, the ancestors of my country) for centuries, and yet we are celebrating it?

Sorry, I didn't mean to be an *BLEEP*. Go ahead and discuss!



P.S. Sorry if this is spam or has been posted already, but you got to give me credit for posting it in the off-topic forum.

Cheers,
Mr. Thraka

Like all public spectacles involving the royal family, it's a Satanic ritual. They're all reptillian shapeshifters out to rule the world. They should be nuked out of existence. Or that's what David Icke says, anyway. I personally see them as expensive pets who serve no real purpose.

warpcrafter wrote:Like all public spectacles involving the royal family, it's a Satanic ritual. They're all reptillian shapeshifters out to rule the world. They should be nuked out of existence. Or that's what David Icke says, anyway. I personally see them as expensive pets who serve no real purpose.

Damn expensive...

Other than being the largest private landholders (after the Catholic Church, which is an Institution) they also receive a tithe from the countries of the Commonwealth... for doing nothing... absolutely nothing.

When they visit AUS, the taxpayers foot the bill...

As I am sure Fraz would say if someone not from America was talking about American issues in a negative way...

... Actually... no... just because you are not English doesn't mean you aren't entitled to your view



Personally, I don't really care either way. I think it is good that we still have our royal family - they give us something unique. It would be nice if they had to make more of their own money rather than being funded by the taxpayer, but Prince Charles (future King) does a lot of things like making natural jams (which are actually very nice), etc as well as a lot of work with charities.

Regards the wedding - I will possibly watch parts of it, but I am not going to watch the FIVE HOUR WARM UP SHOW that the BBC is apparently doing (probably on all of their channels as well - curses!).

Like it or not, it is history, and they are still important in British society and politics.

It's the only occasion we're allowed to go mad with the flag waving in this country, so go nuts I say

That said, I probably won't watch it avidly, although no doubt the missus wil have it on the box.

AvatarForm wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:Like all public spectacles involving the royal family, it's a Satanic ritual. They're all reptillian shapeshifters out to rule the world. They should be nuked out of existence. Or that's what David Icke says, anyway. I personally see them as expensive pets who serve no real purpose.

Damn expensive...

Other than being the largest private landholders (after the Catholic Church, which is an Institution) they also receive a tithe from the countries of the Commonwealth... for doing nothing... absolutely nothing.

When they visit AUS, the taxpayers foot the bill...

*sigh*

I think you'll find that the actual financial burden of the royal family is much less imposing, through tourism alone they make up for any costs imposed on the public, and they do far more than that.


I'm all for it by the way, nice to see some celebration in the news than the usual evil portents.

I really don't care.

What I do care about, is that it is costing us tax payers money.

Saying that, it gives me a day off of work anyway.

The poll is slightly misleading, for example, I don't give a gak about the wedding, but I'm a staunch Royalist.

Politicians are the worst type if scum, you pinkos don't know what your wishing for!

Long live the queen!

Aye, Long Live The Queen. Traitors must hang.

I'm sure a lot of people will get enjoyment out of it and it brings in the pennies, so why not?

Also, simmer the rage level down people. Otherwise we'll have to march around the world and bring you damn savages back in line... again.

I couldn't care less; I get off school for a day, so.. "woo! Kate and William! Yeah.. uh.. where's my football?"

Medium of Death wrote:I'm sure a lot of people will get enjoyment out of it and it brings in the pennies, so why not?

Pretty much this. Sure are a lot of haters out there....

AvatarForm wrote:
Other than being the largest private landholders (after the Catholic Church, which is an Institution) they also receive a tithe from the countries of the Commonwealth... for doing nothing... absolutely nothing.

The Royal Family is also an institution.

stronger ties with our British friends - all for it. Happy story for Kate as well.

I'm in the middle of my A-Levels, and for some reason a 4 day weekend is quite appealing...

Also there are two birthday parties over the weekend, so yes I am quite looking forwards to it.

Goliath wrote:I'm in the middle of my A-Levels, and for some reason a 4 day weekend is quite appealing...

Also there are two birthday parties over the weekend, so yes I am quite looking forwards to it.

I have a five-day weekend.

Seriously though, the politicans are such scumbags.. why do people desperately want rid of the Royals, and we want a "president" instead. Remember Bush? Nixon? Regan?

I have a theory...

Like patriotism, ambition is no virtue. Sure its ok in small amounts, but it never ends well. Really ambitious people are really awful people, because they know what they want and they will do anything to get it, and step on anyone to achieve it. Succesful politicians are by and large, extremely ambitious, thats why they are successful, and thus the seeds of our downfall are sewn.

Someone like The Queen however, has little ambition, because she was born into privelage, she has always had the castles and the fame, so she doesnt thirst for more of it. She lives to serve us, and serve us she has.

The current Queen is a shining example to the rest of the world, and if only some of the other world leaders had even half of the integrity and selflessness of that wonderful old lady, the world would be a much better place.

The MPs have been raping us so much of late, the gak storm has still not died down, several were tried and one is in prison (Labour I love to add)

Blair lied, and sent everyones kids off to war, while his own kids went off to Harvard.

The MPs have done that badly, I say we give the monarchy another chance! Scrapping all the MPs would save us about a billion pounds more than scrapping the monarchy, and we can just get them back in if we ever get another bonkers monarch!

Honestly, I have absolutely no idea why this has so captivated American media. I'm wishing they'd just hurry up and tie the knot already, so I don't have to hear about this crap anymore. It's a wedding, whooopity dooo!

congrats on getting married. I don't care at all, but happy news beats the daily 'x died, x burned down, x was broken into, x was raped' that our media usually greets the sun with every morning.

Good for them.

*goes back to playing Champions while the minecraft server reboots*

streamdragon wrote:Honestly, I have absolutely no idea why this has so captivated American media. I'm wishing they'd just hurry up and tie the knot already, so I don't have to hear about this crap anymore. It's a wedding, whooopity dooo!

My thoughts exactly. The theory of monarchy's form of government sickens me, so I really dislike monarchs (but that's just my opinion on the ones back from the 1600's kind of monarchs, so I might just be delusional).

I also think we're stuck in the past. I say we should let them go for democracy's and freedom's sake.



Personally, I don't trust them. I bet they are like Necrons, just waiting to rise up again and take power.

mattyrm wrote:Seriously though, the politicans are such scumbags.. why do people desperately want rid of the Royals, and we want a "president" instead. Remember Bush? Nixon? Regan?

I have a theory...

Like patriotism, ambition is no virtue. Sure its ok in small amounts, but it never ends well. Really ambitious people are really awful people, because they know what they want and they will do anything to get it, and step on anyone to achieve it. Succesful politicians are by and large, extremely ambitious, thats why they are successful, and thus the seeds of our downfall are sewn.

Someone like The Queen however, has little ambition, because she was born into privelage, she has always had the castles and the fame, so she doesnt thirst for more of it. She lives to serve us, and serve us she has.

The current Queen is a shining example to the rest of the world, and if only some of the other world leaders had even half of the integrity and selflessness of that wonderful old lady, the world would be a much better place.

The MPs have been raping us so much of late, the gak storm has still not died down, several were tried and one is in prison (Labour I love to add)

Blair lied, and sent everyones kids off to war, while his own kids went off to Harvard.

The MPs have done that badly, I say we give the monarchy another chance! Scrapping all the MPs would save us about a billion pounds more than scrapping the monarchy, and we can just get them back in if we ever get another bonkers monarch!

Land of hope and glory, Mother of the free...

Luco wrote:congrats on getting married. I don't care at all, but happy news beats the daily 'x died, x burned down, x was broken into, x was raped' that our media usually greets the sun with every morning.

Huh, sucks to be 'x'.

Personal feelings? Not bothered, hope the stuff sold because of it balances out whatever we lose from the bank holiday though.

I couldn't care less about the wedding, however a free holiday is always welcome.

As for the royal family in general, they bring in more money from tourism than they cost us, so i'm happy for them to stay. However I would prefer they were a bit more active, they should do something for all the money they get.

I don't really understand everyone love of them, they don't really do anything and apart from being born into a family (pure luck) they are just normal people. They aren't inspirational, i'm sure if I was paid so much money to do nothing I would have time to sit around looking good and helping charities. Having to do nothing and having very little power means they can say a lot of good things because in the end they won't ever face a challenge.

mattyrm wrote:Seriously though, the politicans are such scumbags.. why do people desperately want rid of the Royals, and we want a "president" instead. Remember Bush? Nixon? Regan?

I have a theory...

Like patriotism, ambition is no virtue. Sure its ok in small amounts, but it never ends well. Really ambitious people are really awful people, because they know what they want and they will do anything to get it, and step on anyone to achieve it. Succesful politicians are by and large, extremely ambitious, thats why they are successful, and thus the seeds of our downfall are sewn.

Someone like The Queen however, has little ambition, because she was born into privelage, she has always had the castles and the fame, so she doesnt thirst for more of it. She lives to serve us, and serve us she has.

The current Queen is a shining example to the rest of the world, and if only some of the other world leaders had even half of the integrity and selflessness of that wonderful old lady, the world would be a much better place.

The MPs have been raping us so much of late, the gak storm has still not died down, several were tried and one is in prison (Labour I love to add)

Blair lied, and sent everyones kids off to war, while his own kids went off to Harvard.

The MPs have done that badly, I say we give the monarchy another chance! Scrapping all the MPs would save us about a billion pounds more than scrapping the monarchy, and we can just get them back in if we ever get another bonkers monarch!

I agree, power does tend to corrupt, but absolute power corrupts absolutely.
What I am saying is that if we give them another chance they will have absolute power (that's the idea of monarchy, ain't it?) meaning that we will yet again live in fear and oppresion. At least we can vote the dumbasses in office out after four years, but monarchs rule until they're dead. Which can be decades. can you imagine? DECADES of terror.

But you do make a point that I am thinking about as we speak.

4M2A wrote:I couldn't care less about the wedding, however a free holiday is always welcome.

As for the royal family in general, they bring in more money from tourism than they cost us, so i'm happy for them to stay. However I would prefer they were a bit more active, they should do something for all the money they get.

I don't really understand everyone love of them, they don't really do anything and apart from being born into a family (pure luck) they are just normal people. They aren't inspirational, i'm sure if I was paid so much money to do nothing I would have time to sit around looking good and helping charities. Having to do nothing and having very little power means they can say a lot of good things because in the end they won't ever face a challenge.

I'm not sure where people get this whole idea that HM the Queen has no power - constitutionally, She has considerable power as head of state. It's just customary that She doesn't exercise that power, what with the UK being a relatively stable and extremely prosperous nation for several hundred years, and all...

Like patriotism, ambition is no virtue. Sure its ok in small amounts, but it never ends well. Really ambitious people are really awful people, because they know what they want and they will do anything to get it, and step on anyone to achieve it. Succesful politicians are by and large, extremely ambitious, thats why they are successful, and thus the seeds of our downfall are sewn.

The problem of course is that you rarely find unambitious people with the qualities needed to lead large numbers of people.

Seems we have a catch-22

Ok I didn't mean she has no power at all. While england is stable and running correctly she isn't able to do anything without causing serious problems (randomly shutting down government will cause some issues). Since this is the normal state of the country she has effectively no power.

Also the power she legally has and how this works in real life is very different. The laws that let her shut down government are from a time when the royal family still had considerable influence. Since then their control has been decreasing. If a corrupt government did take over (one of the reasons she can take control) she would have the right to stop government but whether she had the power to is very different.

mattyrm wrote:
Like patriotism, ambition is no virtue. Sure its ok in small amounts, but it never ends well. Really ambitious people are really awful people, because they know what they want and they will do anything to get it, and step on anyone to achieve it. Succesful politicians are by and large, extremely ambitious, thats why they are successful, and thus the seeds of our downfall are sewn.

Someone like The Queen however, has little ambition, because she was born into privelage, she has always had the castles and the fame, so she doesnt thirst for more of it. She lives to serve us, and serve us she has.

The current Queen is a shining example to the rest of the world, and if only some of the other world leaders had even half of the integrity and selflessness of that wonderful old lady, the world would be a much better place.

I so agree with this. Not just regarding the monarchy, but also the House of lords. We got so many zany bills through under Blair because the upper house was reduced to a rubber stamp of self interested ex politicians and toadies and the House of Commons is filled with self serving graspers.
Hereditary peers like Her Majesty have nothing to gain, no votes to lie for and are for the most part content to serve the public.

With a population who equate 'voting' to the X Factor, and nationhood to football I am firmly of the opinion that too much democracy is a bad thing.

mattyrm wrote:
The MPs have been raping us so much of late, the gak storm has still not died down, several were tried and one is in prison (Labour I love to add)

Blair lied, and sent everyones kids off to war, while his own kids went off to Harvard.

The MPs have done that badly, I say we give the monarchy another chance! Scrapping all the MPs would save us about a billion pounds more than scrapping the monarchy, and we can just get them back in if we ever get another bonkers monarch!

Blair was the first prime minister to refuse to report in person, or indeed in later years to Her Majesty. Brown followed suit, though the little gak didnt have Blair's chutzpah, so he sent HM e-mails, nice of him. I was pleased to hear that Cameron has gone back to the old system of reporting in person to Her Majesty weekly. The benefit of this over a republic is direct continuous accountability. It is seething to know that the distain for accountability, rather than any love of progress was the reason Blair changed thre system. I think given the chance he would make the UK like North Korea, and if it wasn't true of him it was certainly true of his wife. Cherie Blair showed transparent disrespect even to the person of the Queen herself, and from what I heard to her face. Its also fairly well known around Westminster that Cherie Blair wanted rid of the monarchy, and from what we know of her, progress had little to do with that either. The plan was to turn Buckingham Palace into a Presidential palace, and she would live there. Blair for all his scumbaggery knew that there was no way he would survive trying to unseat the Queen. I could well have happened though if Prince Charles took the throne, in fact Cherie Blair was personally behind the abortive movement to guarantee and formalise succession under statute law. To make it illegal for the monarchy to skip a generation and promote Prince William, which is increasingly likely to be what will happen. If Charles ever becomes king, we will very likely be the last one, Prince William takes after his mother and grandmother and is looking to make an excellent king, and a popular king is a republican's worst nightmare.


On aside neither Blair nor Brown are invited to the wedding. Miliband is as are Cameron, Major and Thatcher. I think there is a message there. Frankly I wonder if the engagement itself was put off until New Labour were out of office.

DAY OFF WOOO HOOO

Warlord Gazghkull Thraka wrote:..............................................
I agree, power does tend to corrupt, but absolute power corrupts absolutely.
What I am saying is that if we give them another chance they will have absolute power (that's the idea of monarchy, ain't it?) meaning that we will yet again live in fear and oppresion. At least we can vote the dumbasses in office out after four years, but monarchs rule until they're dead. Which can be decades. can you imagine? DECADES of terror.

But you do make a point that I am thinking about as we speak.

Yyou do not know exactly what HM the Queen can and cannot do.

The royal family do not have absolute power, nor indeed does any head of state in a democracy.

The Queens primary power (other than xray vision and super strength) is the ability to dissolve parliment and appoint prime ministers. Usually this is done as and when elections are held and she will request that the winner forms a government. Ultimately though the Queen can enact this power at anytime that there is a problem with the government. It is usually considered a check against anyone becoming a tyrant in the UK (see Cromwell and the Kings before him), the Queen therefore serving the citizens in guarding justice and fair rule.

How does a little old lady do this - The Armed Forces swear allegiance to the Crown and not the Government.

Personally I like the Queen (she’s had a real good innings so far), Charles seems like just the chap (bit quirky) to take up the mantle and William is doing his bit by marrying a stunner!