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Ah Melissia, lighten up. Lets have just one day off from the horrific news that constantly plagues our televisions.

And I am not at all surprised that our newly wed royals didn't do any French kissing.

htj wrote:This is true. What I'm saying is that what's good and right hasn't been the priority of most major news broadcasters for some time now. It's understandable that you would take exception to it, but if it's being shown then the majority must have wanted to see it. In many ways, this is democracy at work.

Our benign corporations that own the broadcasters (obliviously over there it works a bit differently) aren't exactly what I would call a good reflection of democratic ideals. I suppose this is also the reason neither the US or UK are pure democracies. The argument could also be made that it isn't as simple as what people want but what they have been programmed to want by a media that dominates cultural trends.

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Ah Melissia, lighten up. Lets have just one day off from the horrific news that constantly plagues our televisions.

By one day you mean two weeks, right?

Ah, here we go.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/

Ignore the sidebars with bits about the wedding, and you're good to go. Otherwise, you could just not watch the news.

Ahtman wrote:

htj wrote:This is true. What I'm saying is that what's good and right hasn't been the priority of most major news broadcasters for some time now. It's understandable that you would take exception to it, but if it's being shown then the majority must have wanted to see it. In many ways, this is democracy at work.

Our benign corporations that own the broadcasters (obliviously over there it works a bit differently) aren't exactly what I would call a good reflection of democratic ideals. I suppose this is also the reason neither the US or UK are pure democracies. The argument could also be made that it isn't as simple as what people want but what they have been programmed to want by a media that dominates cultural trends.

It's an interesting question as to how much mass media drives or follows cultural trends.

Oh, I can always go online and find real news. But my housemates watch "news" in the morning (if it can be called such), and this past week the commentators have ranted and raved about "omg how exciting!" the wedding day is, day in, day out, for the past week. And that's US commentators.

At least if they were British I would understand... hell if it was a flamboyant gay guy ranting about the wedding it'd at least be amusing.

*goes to log on to minecraft*

Ahtman wrote:

htj wrote:This is true. What I'm saying is that what's good and right hasn't been the priority of most major news broadcasters for some time now. It's understandable that you would take exception to it, but if it's being shown then the majority must have wanted to see it. In many ways, this is democracy at work.

Our benign corporations that own the broadcasters (obliviously over there it works a bit differently) aren't exactly what I would call a good reflection of democratic ideals. I suppose this is also the reason neither the US or UK are pure democracies. The argument could also be made that it isn't as simple as what people want but what they have been programmed to want by a media that dominates cultural trends.

Yeah, fair point. I was being a bit too glib. For a pure democracy you could always move to Switzerland. Feels a bit... oddly fascist there though. Is it programming, though? Or is it survival of the fittest? Channels are fighting for ratings, so the news you get must be the stuff that most people want to watch. If you want responsible news broadcasting, then you can't really leave it in the hands of corporations motivated by profit. Who then do you leave it in the hands of?


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I think you hit on to the solution there, Melissia.

Melissia wrote:

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Ah Melissia, lighten up. Lets have just one day off from the horrific news that constantly plagues our televisions.

By one day you mean two weeks, right?

Erm.. Yes! Maybe..

Hey guys the wedding was ok in my opinon ( to be honist with you I acherly found it really dull. But Im not really a big fan of weddings at all!). However you can't really diss royalty because think of all the sacrifices they have to make (not just in the uk but all over the world) like not that much privtesy allways having to make a good impression of themselfs ect.And because of this you cind of need to be happy for them.

HAZZER wrote:Hey guys, the wedding was okay in my opinon (to be honest with you I actually found it really dull; but I'm not really a big fan of weddings at all!). However you can't really disrespect royalty because of all the sacrifices they have to make (not just in the UK, but all over the world) like they don't have that much privacy, always having to make a good impression of themselfs etc. Because of this you kind of need to be happy for them.

Agreed. But your spelling is atrocious.

mattyrm wrote:The current Queen is a shining example to the rest of the world, and if only some of the other world leaders had even half of the integrity and selflessness of that wonderful old lady, the world would be a much better place.

Here, here!

And Will & Kate looked fantastic on this wonderful day of joy and happiness. I wish them all the best.

ColdFire wrote:
As for what Britain has done to us in the past?

-Used us as disposable cannon fodder against the Ottomans during the First World War because Britains troops were seemingly more important.
-Were unwilling to act against the Japanese southern invasions which almost reached our shores and made the Indonesian invasions far more easy for the Japanese then neccesary.
-When the very real threat of us being invaded by the Japanese happened our British allies response was "let them take the top half".

I certainly dont blame modern British for the arrogance of their ancestors but the British during the World Wars treated us like expendables.

What a day to be pig ignorant Coldfire. Couldnt you have come back and been rabidly anglophobic another day.
I dont think there is much point in trying to educate you, but unless challenged someone else might take your words at face value:

-Used us as disposable cannon fodder against the Ottomans during the First World War because Britains troops were seemingly more important.

Offensive and venomous hogwash. Yes ANZAC soldiers suffered unnecessarily due to appalling bad allied generals, but so did Canadian and UK troops both in the Gallipoli campaign and elsewhere. Look up the word Somme. People like Haig would throw a whole generation at the trenches and not care much.

-Were unwilling to act against the Japanese southern invasions which almost reached our shores and made the Indonesian invasions far more easy for the Japanese then neccesary.

An army was sent to Singapore, which directly blocked the advance through the archipelago, led unfortunately by an idiot. It was the single worst disaster in our history. 300,000 soldiers were captured by the Japanese, including British army and Commonweath forces, they suffered horrendous abuse under their Japanese captors. Your comments are an insult to their memory.
A fleet was also sent, which the Japanese bombed. Many ships were sunk including the battleship Prince of Wales http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_Prince_of_Wales_and_Repulse" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_Prince_of_Wales_and_Repulse.

-When the very real threat of us being invaded by the Japanese happened our British allies response was "let them take the top half".

Citation required. This is as hair brained and vitriolic as some of the stuff the plastic paddies like to believe.

I really hope the republican movement in Oz is smarter than this, if this is the sort of racist gak that is whispering around Australia this is going to get nasty.

Ugavine wrote:

mattyrm wrote:The current Queen is a shining example to the rest of the world, and if only some of the other world leaders had even half of the integrity and selflessness of that wonderful old lady, the world would be a much better place.

Here, here!

And Will & Kate looked fantastic on this wonderful day of joy and happiness. I wish them all the best.

And I too. Will looked quite the gentlemen, and I have high hopes of him being an honour to Britain when he does step up to the throne.

You lot missed out - Lakeside was empty and I picked up some real bargains, then caught the flypast/kiss live and the rest on the news.

notprop wrote:You lot missed out - Lakeside was empty and I picked up some real bargains, then caught the flypast/kiss live and the rest on the news.

Nice one.

What do I think of the royal wedding? Well lets see; the happy couple looked a bit like they were trying to hold in their laughter as they slowly walked down the gallery together. I wonder if William was thinking "don't you people know there's something rather nasty going on in Syria this morning?"


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another thing: Overnight she went from "Kate Middleton" (as in "Kate middleton lost another pound!", "Kate middleton crossed the street by herself!", "Kate middleton sneezes on camera!") to "Princess Katherine"... I really really hope that doesn't stick. I think the world needs to keep reminding itself that this girl is not royal blood, and potentially sneezes innapropriately. If someone on the news says "Princess Katherine" it takes me a second to register, if I hear "Kate Middleton" I know instantly how important the news report must be.

Darkvoidof40k wrote:

HAZZER wrote:Hey guys, the wedding was okay in my opinon (to be honest with you I actually found it really dull; but I'm not really a big fan of weddings at all!). However you can't really disrespect royalty because of all the sacrifices they have to make (not just in the UK, but all over the world) like they don't have that much privacy, always having to make a good impression of themselfs etc. Because of this you kind of need to be happy for them.

Agreed. But your spelling is atrocious.

soz

mister robouteo wrote:another thing: Overnight she went from "Kate Middleton" (as in "Kate middleton lost another pound!", "Kate middleton crossed the street by herself!", "Kate middleton sneezes on camera!") to "Princess Katherine"... I really really hope that doesn't stick. I think the world needs to keep reminding itself that this girl is not royal blood, and potentially sneezes innapropriately. If someone on the news says "Princess Katherine" it takes me a second to register, if I hear "Kate Middleton" I know instantly how important the news report must be.

I hope this isn't the case as she is not actually a princess; she is a duchess. She takes the title of her husband, the Duke of Cambridge.

http://www.itn.co.uk/home/17704/title

SilverMK2 wrote:

mister robouteo wrote:another thing: Overnight she went from "Kate Middleton" (as in "Kate middleton lost another pound!", "Kate middleton crossed the street by herself!", "Kate middleton sneezes on camera!") to "Princess Katherine"... I really really hope that doesn't stick. I think the world needs to keep reminding itself that this girl is not royal blood, and potentially sneezes innapropriately. If someone on the news says "Princess Katherine" it takes me a second to register, if I hear "Kate Middleton" I know instantly how important the news report must be.

I hope this isn't the case as she is not actually a princess; she is a duchess. She takes the title of her husband, the Duke of Cambridge.

http://www.itn.co.uk/home/17704/title

Indeed. But the Queen gave Will three new titles today if I'm not mistaken, including the Duke of Cambridge.

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Indeed. But the Queen gave Will three new titles today if I'm not mistaken, including the Duke of Cambridge.

However, "Duke" is the highest of those titles.

SilverMK2 wrote:

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Indeed. But the Queen gave Will three new titles today if I'm not mistaken, including the Duke of Cambridge.

However, "Duke" is the highest of those titles.

I 'spose. But nobody gives a crap, because if she ain't Princess Catherine then she's Duchess Katie.

Hell of a wedding gift. I gave my sister a toaster.

I just saw a bit of the footage, and they did seem kind of hyperaware of how awkward the whole thing was. Just something about the looks on their faces. It wasn't sterile and proper like the Charles/Diana thing, it looked like they were almost embarrassed. I think its a sign of the times. Hype and media explosions and the awareness that a million goof-off youtube videos and such might be edited out of this ultimately unimportant sideshow has even the royal superhumans looking kind of cynical in their smiles. Sorry if I pooped on anybody's royal-loving pancake, but other than the appropriate level of inappropriately puffed up pomp, it didn't even look like the royals took the royal wedding very seriously. Perhaps they'll all get back to the tea room afterwards and have a conversation like "well.. thank god that's over with, at least the peasants are placated again".

Guitardian wrote:I just saw a bit of the footage, and they did seem kind of hyperaware of how awkward the whole thing was. Just something about the looks on their faces. It wasn't sterile and proper like the Charles/Diana thing, it looked like they were almost embarrassed. I think its a sign of the times. Hype and media explosions and the awareness that a million goof-off youtube videos and such might be edited out of this ultimately unimportant sideshow has even the royal superhumans looking kind of cynical in their smiles. Sorry if I pooped on anybody's royal-loving pancake, but other than the appropriate level of inappropriately puffed up pomp, it didn't even look like the royals took the royal wedding very seriously. Perhaps they'll all get back to the tea room afterwards and have a conversation like "well.. thank god that's over with, at least the peasants are placated again".

I thought exactly this.

SilverMK2 wrote:

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Indeed. But the Queen gave Will three new titles today if I'm not mistaken, including the Duke of Cambridge.

However, "Duke" is the highest of those titles.

I thought "regional manager" was a higher title. I'm curious about the titles list. It's good to know if Lord Stanly's Bar and Grill is owned by a duke, an earl, or maybe only a princeling or a baronet.

Guitardian wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Indeed. But the Queen gave Will three new titles today if I'm not mistaken, including the Duke of Cambridge.

However, "Duke" is the highest of those titles.

I thought "regional manager" was a higher title. I'm curious about the titles list. It's good to know if Lord Stanly's Bar and Grill is owned by a duke, an earl, or maybe only a princeling or a baronet.

It's higher than an Earl, but lower than a Duke. A Duke would be able to give orders to a Regional Manager, but an Earl would come under the auspices of a Regional Manager or Supervisor. It gets really complicated when you get Weekend Supervisors and Contessas involved, but needless to say, a Royal Flush trumps them all.

Meh, I'm happy for them. Although the inordinate amount of attention I payed to it may have had something more to do with Kate Middleton than the whole 'history in the making' thing.

@Cannerus: What is this I don't even

Scrubs up nicely, doesn't she.

Good for them. She's quite the lady, and he's quite a nice young man. The only thing that irked me was that he got to wear an Irish Guard Colonel uniform, which he doesn't deserve, or bring pride to. It's like Obama wearing Dress Blues or something like that.

Kate's dress was very nice, and the whole presentation was very nice.


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