The Royal Wedding! Questions/Comments?

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**SilverMK2**

Dakkadan wrote:For the love of God and all things holy can they just get married already. I am sick to death of hearing about it on CNN. "This just in, rich people get married in extravagant wedding attended by other rich people more after this commercial break."

See, if you guys hadn't thrown all our damned tea into the sea you would be able to enjoy it too

**htj**

FM Ninja 048 wrote:
Albatross wrote:To be fair, that's only because you have no idea what you're talking about...

I assume that's directed at me?

Give me a good reason, exept tourism, why we need our royal family, what do they do that someone else can't for much cheaper, or maby instead of doing it cheaper, we could stop doing all together...

So what's it to be? Hanging? Axe? Rock it French-style and guillotine 'em? Perhaps go with a more transatlantic feel and give them the chair.

I don't see any reason to dismantle the establishment, but I wouldn't say no to cutting off their pocket money. I mean, they're grown-ups now after all.

As for the wedding, well, I work in a shop so it means a six hour day with double time and a day's holiday in lieu. Love live the royal couple.

**Flashman**

FM Ninja 048 wrote:
Albatross wrote:To be fair, that's only because you have no idea what you're talking about...

I assume that's directed at me?

Give me a good reason, exept tourism, why we need our royal family, what do they do that someone else can't for much cheaper, or maby instead of doing it cheaper, we could stop doing all together...

Well tourism is a very good reason, so it's kind of cheating on your part to discount it.

Anyhow, the invasion of the foreign press in the last week or so, should tell everything about the value of the Royal Family to this country. For some unfathomable reason, the rest of the world is fascinated with our monarchy. This makes no small contribution to our presence on the world stage. US Presidents treat our Prime Ministers either as pets (Bush/Blair) or with contempt (Obama/Brown & Cameron), but they will fall over themselves to attend a state visit with the Queen.

**mattyrm**

The Queen is a splendid old lady, and if I heard any of these spotty little oiks saying such things about a random old lady in the supermarket I would feel an urge to thrash them, let alone our dignified old monarch!

Bring back flogging and hanging for these upstarts I say!

**Da Boss**

I don't really care that much. I say, let the royals away at it, they seem like decent folk, for the most part. Being born royal isn't THAT much different to being born wealthy in any other way.
Plus, historically, the monarchs of britain were actually pretty kind to their Irish subjects (in sentiment, anyhow). It was Cromwell who really altered things for the worse for us, and then our own aristocrats and their british chums who kept it going. I don't get the disdain the queen is held with in Ireland. Guess they've not read their history thoroughly enough.

I am going to see my girlfriend for the four days, which is going to be brilliant, because I am doing the crappy long distance thing at the moment and four days together is an absolute blessing. She's planning on forcing me to watch it (even though she's German) but I'm sure I can distract her somehow.

**Albatross**

FM Ninja 048 wrote:
Albatross wrote:To be fair, that's only because you have no idea what you're talking about...

I assume that's directed at me?

Correct.

Give me a good reason

Tourism.

exept tourism,

Gah!

Ok, how about the fact that they are a potent symbol of British nationhood, as much, if not more, than the flag. Or if that sort of thing isn't your bag, how about the fact that they are central to our constitution and our form of government, one of the most popular forms of democratic governance in the world, and one which is the most basic foundation of our nation's prosperity and well-being?

That do?

what do they do that someone else can't for much cheaper, or maby instead of doing it cheaper, we could stop doing all together...

Son, I wouldn't normally lower myself, but I'm in a good mood so I'll humour you. What are you talking about?

**Morathi's Darkest Sin**

I've got another one Alby, because if you where facing an invasion of this counry and fighting street for street, does anyone seriously think they'd be willing die for Blair, Brown or Cameron and Country?

They actually do us a lot of good overseas, diplomatic relations and such, although there is a ingrown hostililty to them in some quarters of the UK. A lot of other countries around the world love em.

You can't buy that kind of respect, I mean seriously if you open it up and allow folks to vote for who they would want as our social ambassadors, we'd have fething Jorden (or the next 15min fame starlet thats come along) or Simon Cowell representing us.

**Flashman**

Isn't Simon Cowell acting as a (self appointed) representative already?

America we apologise in advance for inflicting X Factor upon you. Just remember, the more you complain about it, the more powerful he becomes.

**George Spiggott**

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:I've got another one Alby, because if you where facing an invasion of this counry and fighting street for street, does anyone seriously think they'd be willing die for Blair, Brown or Cameron and Country?

At that point wouldn't we be fighting for our homes and families? Whilst ever Germany* is still intact we can always import another monarch if we lose the old one.

*Or Scotland or Denmark or France or Holland...

**Flashman**

George Spiggott wrote:
Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:I've got another one Alby, because if you where facing an invasion of this counry and fighting street for street, does anyone seriously think they'd be willing die for Blair, Brown or Cameron and Country?
At that point wouldn't we be fighting for our homes and families? Whilst ever Germany* is still intact we can always import another monarch if we lose the old one.

*Or Scotland or Denmark or France or Holland...

That's what the line of succession is for, there's hundreds of them! In fact thinking about it, there's enough for an army, so really, the rest of us don't have to fight.

**ColdFire**

Kilkrazy wrote:
ColdFire wrote:On the subject of the wedding, I dont care. I certainly wish them all the best and they seem like descent enough people but I do not agree with allowing this spectacle to take up my whole tv schedule as petty as that sounds. I really wish my country would realise that we need to start moving towards an independent nation rather then a British Colony.

I certainly believe we should never forget our ties to Britain but I think we need to cut the imbilical chord "hope I spelt that right" and move on with our nation towards a more independent Australia.
Indeed I think we need a cultural make over starting with our Flag, the Southern Cross is not uniqueley Australian and the Union Jack is too British for my tastes, if we are to be Australian we should have a uniqueley Australian flag. Personally I think the Aboriginal flag is excellent although as not to bogart their heritage I still believe non Aboriginal Australians should have their own flag. We may all be Australian but we are not all Aboriginal, they have a right to remain an independent culture.

We should certainly honour the Flag which has served us all these years as a symbol of this historical period but we need to move on and free ourselves of the weight which is the former British Empire.
They did us no favours in history, why do we still pander to them?

You know that Australia would not exist except for the British Empire?

I'm not saying you owe the Empire any debts, in my reckoning they were paid off in WW1 and 2.

Just try to have some historical awareness.

Did you read my post at all, I recognise that we originated from the British Empire, Im simply saying we need to loosen the British themes a bit and get our own identity.
Please dont try and tell me to be more historically aware of my own countries history.

Albatross wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:
ColdFire wrote:On the subject of the wedding, I dont care. I certainly wish them all the best and they seem like descent enough people but I do not agree with allowing this spectacle to take up my whole tv schedule as petty as that sounds. I really wish my country would realise that we need to start moving towards an independent nation rather then a British Colony.

I certainly believe we should never forget our ties to Britain but I think we need to cut the imbilical chord "hope I spelt that right" and move on with our nation towards a more independent Australia.
Indeed I think we need a cultural make over starting with our Flag, the Southern Cross is not uniqueley Australian and the Union Jack is too British for my tastes, if we are to be Australian we should have a uniqueley Australian flag. Personally I think the Aboriginal flag is excellent although as not to bogart their heritage I still believe non Aboriginal Australians should have their own flag. We may all be Australian but we are not all Aboriginal, they have a right to remain an independent culture.

We should certainly honour the Flag which has served us all these years as a symbol of this historical period but we need to move on and free ourselves of the weight which is the former British Empire.
They did us no favours in history, why do we still pander to them?

You know that Australia would not exist except for the British Empire?

I'm not saying you owe the Empire any debts, in my reckoning they were paid off in WW1 and 2.

Just try to have some historical awareness.

I would add to that by mentioning that Australia is completely independent of the UK - HM Queen Elizabeth II is queen of Australia in a seperate sense, constitutionally.

And what exactly has Britain 'done' to Australia? Considering so many Aussies complain about us and our country, there's certainly no shortage of them living here - plus Australia sure seems keen to attract our skilled workers...

I think you secretly love us.

I recognise its a constitutional monarchy, I merely question what is the point.

As for what Britain has done to us in the past?

-Used us as disposable cannon fodder against the Ottomans during the First World War because Britains troops were seemingly more important.
-Were unwilling to act against the Japanese southern invasions which almost reached our shores and made the Indonesian invasions far more easy for the Japanese then neccesary.
-When the very real threat of us being invaded by the Japanese happened our British allies response was "let them take the top half".

I certainly dont blame modern British for the arrogance of their ancestors but the British during the World Wars treated us like expendables.

**Medium of Death**

The difference between Australia and the other commonwealth countries is that they had a rich history before we came along.

You can't separate yourself from Britain completely because it defined/defines your culture.

**Kilkrazy**

Flashman wrote:I think it would still exist KK, I don't think even we can lay claim to have built an entire landmass purely to solve the problem of prison overcrowding

You doubt the power of British late Georgian engineering?!?!?!?

**davidjones**

I couldn't give a monkeys about Willy & Katie.

My friends are banging on about watching it "because its important". Yet these same friends did not vote in the last election. Go figure that one out.

**ColdFire**

Medium of Death wrote:The difference between Australia and the other commonwealth countries is that they had a rich history before we came along.

You can't separate yourself from Britain completely because it defined/defines your culture.

I think the Aboriginal People would resent that, Australia had a history before European Settlement not after. I never claim that we can seperate from Britain completely, it is part of our history but that does not mean we should continue as a Constitutional Monarchy or have the Union Jack in our flag.

**Warlord Gazghkull Thraka**

Now, this is what I mean! We should just move on!

**Tauzor**

Nice day , Sun ., no work , beer a laugh and a bit of a show when we are all down in the dumps due to world economy

feth it all , spend the money - enjoy life . Live it !

**TungstenMonkey**

+1 to previous comment

**htj**

Except it's not a particularly nice day.

**SilverMK2**

I thought the actual wedding bit was pretty good. Not so keen on the holy holy aspect though

I like the contradiction of the speaker who is talking now and the first bishop guy who addressed them who talked about the fear of god

**Ahtman**

Hundreds dead from a massive storm that tore through the country causing massive devastation and the most covered story is a wedding. Yay. As always our priorities are in their place.

**SilverMK2**

... a wedding of the future King and Queen of one of the most powerful countries in the world.

How much coverage did the UK flooding get in the US?

Automatically Appended Next Post:
So, no flowers on the unknown soldiers grave. An interesting choice.

**Ahtman**

SilverMK2 wrote:... a wedding of the future King and Queen of one of the most powerful countries in the world.

I'm not living in the UK. Makes sense it would get a lot of coverage there. It also makes sense that it would get coverage here. My complaint wasn't taht it got any coverage, my complaint is that it is steamrolling the coverage of a more serious event in the country in which it happened. Also, couldn't give two gaks about your backwards love for monarchy. You like it, that is fine, I'm not hoping bad things happen to them, but I also wouldn't care if it did.

**htj**

Backward. Not backwards. Backward implies something is primitive, backwards would mean it is reversed. Backwards love is hate.

News broadcasters show what they think people want to watch. I guess they figure you guys want to see this.

**happydude**

Warlord Gazghkull Thraka wrote:Hey there, I am inquiring on your opinions on The Royal Wedding of Prince William and Kate.
Please use the poll and, if you want, write in!

In my opinion, I don't care, and in a way, disapprove. I thought when democracy moved in, we wanted to RID our selves the form of government that terrorized us(us being the Europeans, the ancestors of my country) for centuries, and yet we are celebrating it?

Sorry, I didn't mean to be an *BLEEP*. Go ahead and discuss!

P.S. Sorry if this is spam or has been posted already, but you got to give me credit for posting it in the off-topic forum.

Cheers,
Mr. Thraka

Watched it because I was up and have a day off ( Although I took mortal kombat breaks ) but to me it's just another wedding, nothing special. I wish them peace and happiness but that goes out to all brides and sucke...grooms... ;p

**Ahtman**

htj wrote:Backward. Not backwards. Backward implies something is primitive, backwards would mean it is reversed. Backwards love is hate.

If you argue every typo you come across on any forum you will have no time to do much of anything else.

htj wrote:News broadcasters show what they think people want to watch. I guess they figure you guys want to see this.

I didn't blame the broadcasters, though they will take some of the blame. Just because someone wants something doesn't make it good or right.

**htj**

Ahtman wrote:If you argue every typo you come across on any forum you will have no time to do much of anything else.

I know, but it's a particular peeve of mine. And if I'm going to be insulted, I want to be insulted properly, damn it.

It's worth noting that, in the main, most of the UK populace couldn't care less about the monarchy but that this is a good occassion for people to feel positive and unified about something. A feeling that Britain hasn't had for some time. How about in the States?

Ahtman wrote:I didn't blame the broadcasters, though they will take some of the blame. Just because someone wants something doesn't make it good or right.

This is true. What I'm saying is that what's good and right hasn't been the priority of most major news broadcasters for some time now. It's understandable that you would take exception to it, but if it's being shown then the majority must have wanted to see it. In many ways, this is democracy at work.

**Darkvoidof40k**

Don't forget folks, if you missed this one, Harry's is probably just around the proverbial corner..

**SilverMK2**

Well, there you go - first appearance on the balcony.

A great day to be English even if you are not a royalist (which I am not).

**Melissia**

I mean no offense to you brits, but I wish the local channels would shtu the feth up about this and put some real news on. It's a great day for the royal family, and insofar as I can be happy about two random people getting married who I know nothing about, I'm happy for them. But I wish they'd continue to cover the Japanese nuclear crisis, the war in Libya, the brutal suppression in North Africa and the Middle East, etc too.