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I have always wanted more options on Leman Russes... They are pretty customizable these days, but I want more...
Examples:

Autocannon, Lascannon, missile launcher sponsons.
Autocannon, Multi-Melta, Plasma Cannon, Lascannon, Missile launcher hull mounts
Types of LRs:

Annihilator Twin-Linked Lascannon.
Destructor Autocannon (with this variant, Autocannon side sponsons are Twin-Linked).
Conqueror Conqueror battle cannon.

What do you think?

Annihilator and Conqueror already exist so I don't know why you're proposing it, and Autocannons, Lascannons etc, are too large to be fitted in sponsons. To have those in sponsons you need something larger like a Malcador or even a Macharius.

Annihilator and Conqueror cannot be used in a regular guard army... Only DKOK...

About the Las/Autocannon thing... I didn't know that.
Maybe, only the destructor could have a hull mounted Autocannon or/and Autocannon sponsons.

sluggaslugga wrote:Annihilator and Conqueror cannot be used in a regular guard army...

Yes, actually they CAN. See IA:1.

It wouldn't matter what variant the Russ is. Fact is, the Autocannons wouldn't be suitable for the sponsons, and why are you proposing an Autocannon Russ when we already have that too?

Valkyrie wrote:It wouldn't matter what variant the Russ is. Fact is, the Autocannons wouldn't be suitable for the sponsons, and why are you proposing an Autocannon Russ when we already have that too?

I... Don't... Know. I kinda forgot the Exterminator...

What about hull mounted weapons?

sluggaslugga wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:It wouldn't matter what variant the Russ is. Fact is, the Autocannons wouldn't be suitable for the sponsons, and why are you proposing an Autocannon Russ when we already have that too?

I... Don't... Know. I kinda forgot the Exterminator...

What about hull mounted weapons?

Oh well, it still seems like a cool idea, at least you didn't propose we fit volcano cannons.

All I want for my Russes is ammo variations. It's probable the most annoying thing in fluff that all Battle Tanks ONLY carry HE, and all Vanquishers only carry AP. I wish there were upgrades for different ammo types so you could choose which type of round you're firing. I mean, it is canon that LRBTs have different types of ammo.

Ah true, I miss the old Imperial Armor 1 rules. There was an entire section on playing with leman russ ammo types. That would make them nice and multipurpose

It would be cool, but...

Sternguard =/= LR

Russes need more variants, so that you could actually choose which kind of tank do you want

Also, the Track Guard should be an option for IG tanks... Not just Krieg.

But they kinda are like sternguard, in that a tank has multiple ammo options to choose from. I'd rather have different types of ammo instead of more variants. You'd only need a few, and the specialized types can be better at one than another.

e.g.
LRBT, Special Ammo.

HE- S8, AP3, Large Blast,
AP- S10, AP2, Small Blast
Canister- S6, AP5, Small Blast, Ignores Cover, Range cut to 24"

Vanquisher, Special Ammo

HE- S8, AP3, Small Blast
AP- S8, AP1, 2d6 Armor Pen

Well in Imperial Armor 1 they made the rules so that you only have enough for a 6 turn game so it was limited in a way that if you waste a shot, that could be 1 of 2 or even the only type of ammo that you brought

Oh, I'm not syaing that it's unlimited. I'd say it'd be that you have to pay...say 5 points or so for each shell you get, and each shell is one shot only. Your 'standard' shots would come unlimited for free (HE for LRBT, AP for Vanquisher), but the special round would have to be paid for.

I agree with the differant shell idea's! they were great back in armour 1.

There are already plenty of leman russ varients to choose from in the new codex all of which suit differant roles.

Even if your russ cant fill a certain role such as anti-air or artillery they have alot of other tanks to do that for you such as the basilisk and hydra.

A Russ is a battle tank not a gun platform or artillery piece they cant have every weapon in the codex.

What kind of shells would they have?

AP shells? Str8 AP1
Poisonous gas? Str1 AP5 poison (2+)
Anti-cover? Str4 AP3 ignores cover
Bastion breacher? (too big for russ?) Str10 AP1

If I was making a new Russ, it would be like this:

Turret mounted missile battery (regular missile launcher profile, but heavy 4)
Hull hounted Heavy bolter
Sponson mounted pair of twin linked Heavy Stubbers (2 per side, both twin linked)

It might not work well in game, but I like the concept

S_P

sluggaslugga wrote:What kind of shells would they have?

AP shells? Str8 AP1
Poisonous gas? Str1 AP5 poison (2+)
Anti-cover? Str4 AP3 ignores cover
Bastion breacher? (too big for russ?) Str10 AP1

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They would have High Explosive (HE), Armor Piercing (AP) and maybe canister. Your basic RUss would get a free supply of its own ammo, (e.g. LRBTs would get free HE rounds, Vanquishers get free AP rounds), and each 'special' round you get would cost more. Maybe, 5 for HE, 10 for AP and Canister.

Twin linked Heavy Psycannon turret.
Psycannon sponsons.
Hull mounted Heavy Incinerator.

You jelly, Grey Knights?

In all seriousness, I do like the idea of the missile launcher Russ. Sort of a Whirlwind ripoff but there ya go. Heavy 4, twin linked might be a bit OP... but anything less and I'd probably always prefer the Battlecannon.

Definitely like twin-linked Heavy Stubber. Defensive sponsons would be delightful.

DoW

Defensive sponsons... what about Twin-Linked flamers?
Defensive weapons are a max strength 4 right?

defensive weapons are max s4, yes...i wish defensive sponsons were takable, it doesnt seem hard, stubbers are small guns (relatively) and id much rather have 2 hvy stubbers than 2 heavy bolters

So doesnt it seem over kill to add more options to one of the most versatile vehicles in the game? How many options you want 20? 30?

CageUF wrote:So doesnt it seem over kill to add more options to one of the most versatile vehicles in the game? How many options you want 20? 30?

Nothing seems overkill after Insta-killing troops and laser shooting monkeys...