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im looking for an alternative spray can to the GWs chaos black to base coat my models

it must be easily available, a UK brand and cheap as possible.

anybody know of any good ones? or am i best just gettign the GW stuff


any help is great thanks

I love krylon, not sure if it US only.

i think its only US i coulnt find it online anywhere

thanks for the help though

You can use pretty much any black primer spray. B&Q probably has a few, as do automotive shops.

Just shake it well, use light passes and test it out on some sprue first.

Is there anything i should avoid or will any arcylic black spray paint do?

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?isSearch=true&fh_search=spray+paint&x=0&y=0

I've used those before - they are OK. You need to really shake them up and use in light passes but they get the job done. The price also reflects that you get a fair bit of spray per can

Come in a range of colours as well.

If you want "modeling" sprays, Maelstrom carry a few different brands.

I should also point out that the chaos black spray from GW is not a primer.

I use army painter colours, just because they are avaliable and funky and i;m lazy, for example, i use brown for my catachans,green for orks etc
(means you can paint orks in like 3 coats Spray-> cloth-> wash)

final question (i think)

should i be getting a matt black colour

and what the difference between a primer and chaos black spray apint (i thought they were one and the same silly noob me)

http://www.finehomebuilding.com/how-to/articles/paint-primer.aspx

I like Army Painter spray color primer as well...it is a primer + base coat in one spray can, goes on light and looks decent as a base color.

Ahh so i woul di be right in assuming that a primer would be best as a base coat?

mikeb2817 wrote:Ahh so i woul di be right in assuming that a primer would be best as a base coat?

Yes, you are correct in your assumption. Although the term "base coat" typically refers to the first coat of color applied over the primer coat. At least in this hobby, anyway.



Ghidorah

The Krylon primer is mint... Flat black is so good it hurts my face with joy.

In the UK I use Plasti-kote Primer Super in medium grey. Rust-oleum works well too.

I don't know if GW's Chaos Black is a real primer or just a black paint.

There are various spray primers available. Go and look at B&Q's web site.

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?fh_view_size=10&fh_reffacet=categories&fh_location=%2f%2fcatalog01%2fen_GB%2fcategories%3c%7b9372123%7d&fh_refview=search&fh_search=primer&fh_refpath=facet_159016185&fh_eds=ß

Kilkrazy wrote:I don't know if GW's Chaos Black is a real primer or just a black paint.

A) Just black paint, B) rubs off in your hands very easily, C) STUPIDLY over-priced ($15 per can in the US).



Ghidorah

try P3 primer by privateer press. it goes on in thin coats, which means several passes but it has excellent control

I use Testor's flat black primer, if I'm not mistaken. It's pretty nice.

You could also try the Halfords range of sprays,they are cheaper than GW's and work just as good

I’m a fan of Dupli-Color I’ve used their gray which is offered in a light and dark…. The light is very close to GW Codex gray and the dark is very close to Adeptus.
I also swear by their Self-Etching primer for metal mini’s
I’ve used Army Painter as well with much luck… but our gaming store doesn’t stock it all the time.
GW works, costs a lot and I keep a can or two handy….It’s good for the Templar, matching tanks to troops but If I had to I would use Dupli-Color and Army Painter before GW….
Dupli-Color also has a black primer but to me it goes on to thick so I stay away from it.

Thanks for the suggestions guys, im going to nip over to B and Q and grab a spray can or two.

2 things, 1 do a test model first, 2 do NOT buy a gloss finish

If you are still looking for primer then Halfords do a pretty nice matt black primer. Used it on the majority of my chaos and all of my high elves.

Plus my bro works there so discount ftw

I like the Privateer Press Black undercoat spray and it's cheaper than GW

I use Valspar and it coats great.

I got a grey car primer for £1 today, im going to try it on some sprue later and let you know how it goes, im not holding my breath but if it works im buzzing as its stocked at a local pound land

I use halfords.
Not only white, grey & black but also red oxide & a sand yellow.

mikeb2817 wrote:I got a grey car primer for £1 today, im going to try it on some sprue later and let you know how it goes, im not holding my breath but if it works im buzzing as its stocked at a local pound land

It actually works pretty well, even the gloss black works well but requires longer to dry.

yeh it does , i got one of my spare mantic dwarfs painted up before and it works quite well.

Bit annoyed that i could only get grey primer as it puts me off as its quite like the colour of the sprue but i geuss i can live with that for £1 pound for 300ml.

mikeb2817 wrote:yeh it does , i got one of my spare mantic dwarfs painted up before and it works quite well.

Bit annoyed that i could only get grey primer as it puts me off as its quite like the colour of the sprue but i geuss i can live with that for £1 pound for 300ml.

You could always try the halfords primer, 500ml for £7 compared to GWs 400ml for £8.20. I plan on stickin with Halfords primer purely because its a matt black and not gloss, its a proper primer and it cheaper lol.

The £1 grey primer i got is fine for what it is, and very cheap

Im not the best painter but heres the results



its easily accessable for me as well as my local pound shop is only a few minutes away.

rubbish quality pic as im using a pohone



(Rubbish painting i know but the primer works , plus i wa susing the paints from the kings of war set and they are rubbish imo)