Making the four horsemen of the Apocalypse Need help??

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**black templar**

I had a idea of making the fourhorse men out of chaos space marine bikes. Im making Pestilence a Nurgle plague marine, War a Khorne beserker,Death Tzeentch Thousand son and Famine a Slaanesh nosie marine. If anybody could help even change the horsemen around that would help thanks.

**Leigen_Zero**

You could use the actual bible ones:
War - Khorne
Famine - Nurgle
Conquest - Slaanesh (as in the desire to dominate and subjugate the enemy)
Death - Tzeentch

**Lord Scythican**

This would make a really cool custom apocalypse unit. Just saying...

Though I would go for this instead:

War - Khorne
Famine - Slaanesh
Conquest - Tzeentch
Death - Nurgle

Death and Plague are basically based on differences in biblic translations, but they mean one and the same rider (corpses make people ill, ill people make corpses).

I also think that the themes of Tzeentch, like accumulation of power and subjugation of others fit a lot more with Conquest. Tzeentch has always been more extrovertic - where Slaanesh cares only about experiencing new things, Tzeentchian plots are always in relation to others, seeking to improve the god's or his cultist's standing. That's what I took Conquest to mean.

Then you have Famine as Slaanesh. The description in Revelations notes how after the coming of Famine, there will be no food, but plenty of wine and oil. So there will be no basic nutrition, only substances used for indulgence, which I guess is a pretty good parallel with Slaaneshi cultists always being unfulfilled and desiring more. It's not the hunger for food so much as the thirst for new experiences.

**ph34r**

Very well thought out Scythican. I am inclined to agree with you.

**IG GENERAL**

I built the 4 horsemen last year, so of course I've lost the photos.
Anyway, I took the theme from their descriptions in "Revelations", so the horses are red, white, grey and black, the crowns/swords/weapons etc take some doing (a tyrranid claw superglued to an IG flagpole is ok for "Death").
Mainly though, have an idea in mind before you start buying bits, then look at all the ranges available. While Chaos figures are the obvious answer there are also plenty of LOTR, Empire etc horsemen that can be adapted easily.
Which reminds me, I'm still trying to find something suitable to use as scales (or balances) for the one that carries those: famine? Good luck.

**black templar**

Thanks guys ill use all of them all

**Lord Scythican**

ph34r wrote:Very well thought out Scythican. I am inclined to agree with you.

I am really liking this idea black templar. think I might go back and touch up some of these:

War

Death

Conquest

Famine

???

This one might make a good Death as well...

**black templar**

Lord Scythican wrote:This would make a really cool custom apocalypse unit. Just saying...

Though I would go for this instead:

War - Khorne
Famine - Slaanesh
Conquest - Tzeentch
Death - Nurgle

Death and Plague are basically based on differences in biblic translations, but they mean one and the same rider (corpses make people ill, ill people make corpses).

Ill use this one the most for my main ones. And the others i will make as back ups thanks for everything guys.

I also think that the themes of Tzeentch, like accumulation of power and subjugation of others fit a lot more with Conquest. Tzeentch has always been more extrovertic - where Slaanesh cares only about experiencing new things, Tzeentchian plots are always in relation to others, seeking to improve the god's or his cultist's standing. That's what I took Conquest to mean.

Then you have Famine as Slaanesh. The description in Revelations notes how after the coming of Famine, there will be no food, but plenty of wine and oil. So there will be no basic nutrition, only substances used for indulgence, which I guess is a pretty good parallel with Slaaneshi cultists always being unfulfilled and desiring more. It's not the hunger for food so much as the thirst for new experiences.

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ill use this one as my main ones and use the others as back ups thanks everybody. I forgot to say they will be on custom attack bikes.

**Lord Scythican**

Post some pics once you get them put together. Now we just need to come up with some rules.

**black templar**

yer i will thanks again guys.

**Darkmoonlight**

you should read the source material aswell, for example war had a red horse and i believe deaths was white? or check out the video game darksiders that could be cool

**CURNOW**

you should know death rode a pale horse !! jonny said so !! lol

I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come and see!" I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

so white horse is conquest or victory ...maybe slanesh?

When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Come and see!" Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a large sword.

red horse is war =khorne

When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come and see!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"

black horse is fammine i would sugest tzench

When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come and see!" I looked and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hell was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.
pale rider is death so nurgle representing the decay we must all indure with death ?

**mebobsayhi9**

sorry, I don't have any suggestions, but I must say, this is a wonderful idea! I cannot wait to see pictures of the finished products!

**black templar**

Thanks guys

Finale idea:

Nurgle= Death and pestilence

Slaansh= Famine

Khorne=war

Tzeentch= conquest

**Praxiss**

black templar wrote:Thanks guys

Finale idea:

Nurgle= Death and pestilence Pale Horse and "beasts of the earth".....maybe surrounded by little nurglings?

Slaansh= Famine Black Horse and carrying scales.....not sure hwo you could model this....

Khorne=war Red Horse and a big f-ing sword

Tzeentch= conquest White horse and a bow....maybe something out of fantasy or LOTR for the bow

**black templar**

Weapons of my Horsemen:

Khore = Twin chain axes on the sides and twin assault cannons on the front.

Tzeentch = Inferno Bolts, Doombolt and Chains of Torment.

Slaanesh = Twin sonic weapons, blast master and Lash of Torment.

Nurgle = Manreaper, blight grenades, plague of undead and twin storm bolters.

**Praxiss**

Can't wait to see the models.

**black templar**

i will need to save my money up for a while before i get started okay everbody.

**foodmang**

I thought of doing an apocalypse based army once. The main chunk of the force was nurgle and I was going for a more death feel rather than decay or rot (I used a lot of scythes and skull imagery rather than organs and flies). I also planned on using khorne to represent the fiery war part of the apocalypse. Anyway, I planned on using actual horse models for the four horsemen (count as bikers) and found that the nazgul from LOTR work the best. Other models that came to mind were various fantasy chaos lords on mounts including Archaeon as well as the vampire counts blood knights.
Can't wait to see what you do with this, it sounds AWESOME.

**black templar**

Change of plan not using bikes using daemon steeds.

**Dark Apostle 666**

Good Idea!

**Kroothawk**

Existing miniatures:
Reaper:
Famine
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/famine/latest/02001 mounted (OOP)
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/famine/latest/02850

Pestilence
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/pestilence/sku-down/02004 mounted (OOP)
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/reaper/sku-down/02002

Death
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/reaper/sku-down/65020

War
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/reaper/sku-down/02003 mounted (OOP)
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/reaper/sku-down/02813

Edit: Missed the CSM part.
Still, Warriors of Chaos have 4 mounted Lords that might be a good start, esp. Lord of Nurgle:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440108a&rootCatGameStyle=