Kingdom Death : Monster - Official Kickstarter Thread

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**Alpharius**

Has there been any further word on this potential problem?

Milkshaker wrote:
Hey guys, I read on the "By Lanterns Light (A Kingdom Death Group)" on facebook, that some people are missing cards (one specific example was someone who was missing an AI card from the screaming antilope deck). He found out by comparing 2 sets card by card.

Does anyone have a complete card list or the number of cards that should be in each deck/pack/card set?

With news like that I think it might be useful to compare numbers or card lists.

Has their been any Official Word about it?

Or an Official Inventory List?

**Albino Squirrel**

The few miniatures I have assembled so far have been a pain in the ass, and have very visible joins and a few little gaps. Makes me really appreciate the skill that must go into the design of the Games Workshop plastic kits.

**RivenSkull**

Alpharius wrote:
Has there been any further word on this potential problem?

Milkshaker wrote:
Hey guys, I read on the "By Lanterns Light (A Kingdom Death Group)" on facebook, that some people are missing cards (one specific example was someone who was missing an AI card from the screaming antilope deck). He found out by comparing 2 sets card by card.

Does anyone have a complete card list or the number of cards that should be in each deck/pack/card set?

With news like that I think it might be useful to compare numbers or card lists.

Has their been any Official Word about it?

Or an Official Inventory List?

This is why I'm waiting to open anything beyond the main box. With all of those cards and no way of knowing if I'm missing one, I want to wait to have something official to compare them to.

Same with assembly. Instructions would be nice.

**Alpharius**

Same here - though I'm also not opening my main box as I'm still wavering on whether or not to sell it all off, including expansions...

**Ramos Asura**

So discovery I made- the dividers for the big cards (like the AI and whatnot) have inventory lists on them. That can at least get you started on checking inventory

**Triple9**

Albino Squirrel wrote:
The few miniatures I have assembled so far have been a pain in the ass, and have very visible joins and a few little gaps. Makes me really appreciate the skill that must go into the design of the Games Workshop plastic kits.

I assembled just the white lion and 4 starting survivors and have to say I'm impressed with the detail, but less impressed with the joins, especially the back/hind quarters of the Lion. Read through the rules last night and I think this one is going to be a keeper.

**JohnHwangDD**

BrookM wrote:
Well, here's hoping they'll upload proper instructions soon then.

Yeah. The Phoenix, in particular...

**Rainyday**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
BrookM wrote:
Well, here's hoping they'll upload proper instructions soon then.

Yeah. The Phoenix, in particular...

I'm not doing those hands without instructions.

**Chopxsticks**

Rules question

So the white lion mauled I think it was, someone in my group hitting them with a Damage 3 attack, in a location that already had a light wound. So 1 damage to heavy wound, then next point of damage he rolled on the sever injury chart. Should he have had to roll a 2nd time on the same sever injury chart?

**NewTruthNeomaxim**

Chopxsticks wrote:
Rules question

So the white lion mauled I think it was, someone in my group hitting them with a Damage 3 attack, in a location that already had a light wound. So 1 damage to heavy wound, then next point of damage he rolled on the sever injury chart. Should he have had to roll a 2nd time on the same sever injury chart?

According the GenCon demos I watched, yes. The game doesn't play around with the murder. :-p

**Triple9**

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Chopxsticks wrote:
Rules question

So the white lion mauled I think it was, someone in my group hitting them with a Damage 3 attack, in a location that already had a light wound. So 1 damage to heavy wound, then next point of damage he rolled on the sever injury chart. Should he have had to roll a 2nd time on the same sever injury chart?

According the GenCon demos I watched, yes. The game doesn't play around with the murder. :-p

I don't believe that's right. On page 29 under Severe Injuries and Death (Bold in original text as well)

Roll once on the table each time the hit location is damaged even if the amount of damage is over 1.

**Ramos Asura**

Yes, thats the way. As soon as damage covers all boxes, all remaining damage for the attack is reduced to a single roll on the Severe Injuries table.

Now in the same line of questions, heres one for you guys. When an attack is speed 2 (basic lion claw, for example) and it wounds the chest twice- each time for one damage- do I roll twice on the severe chart if the boxes are already filled? I figured two hits to the chest= two rolls on the chart. Or is it just one roll?

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My brothers and I got our game going and got into the first actual Lion Hunt after the tutorial... Needless to say, we got chewed up quite a bit. Terrible dice meant that we couldnt wound it to save our lives!

Two survivors took brain damage from its roar (very low sanity survivors...) and ended up getting disorders. One, who later got a broken rib and was disemboweled, became terrified of monsters and would take extra brain damage from intimidation. The other... he became immortal xD

Eventually we managed to kill it... EVENTUALLY.
Still totally loving it, though

**Triple9**

My understanding is hits are resolved independently (order at survivor discretion), so under that circumstance, it would be 2 rolls on the table.

I assembled my prologue minis and got the box all set up. Was hoping to get my first game in tonight, but life got in the way. Hopefully tomorrow night.

**Chopxsticks**

We actually faired rather well, one guy took the brunt of evwrything and ended up dead. But throwing those founding stones for the auto hit and auto crit is insane. Right off the bat our first crit was the one that spills the lions entrails and he has to roll at the start of his turns and could suffer a wound. Also got alot of extra resources from the crits

**Triple9**

Forgot to mention I got my Wave 1 shipment notice today (just White Speaker, Beyond the Wall Resin and T-Shirt). Looks like they're in the final stretches now.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Well, that worked out well. Life suddenly got out of the way so I was able to do the first showdown and settlement tonight. Decided to name my survivors Benny, Bjorn, Agnetha and Frida, so of course my settlement is named Sweden.

I really like the tension of the showdowns. I thought I was cruising to an easy win and then a missed damage opportunity on the final AI card left one guy with 2 severe wounds and 4 blood tokens with only 1 survivor left to activate for the round. Had to sit there and figure out if I wanted to use a founder stone for the autokill or take a chance on missing his attacks and giving the lion another activation. Got lucky and killed the lion without losing anyone or taking any permanent effects and just one founder stone used, but I can already see how many tough decisions are going to be a part of this game.

**Dentry**

My small rewards are / will be on their way! Very glad about that.

**endtransmission**

RivenSkull wrote:

This is why I'm waiting to open anything beyond the main box. With all of those cards and no way of knowing if I'm missing one, I want to wait to have something official to compare them to.

Some kind soul has created a document listing all the components and cards that were in his set, using the checklists on the dividers for the cards where available

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kffLfd9kNdYN6NgKjKrfe8Y6m-35hfiBNTa_WteEVNU/pubhtml

There's also someone reporting that their rulebook is missing a load of pages (pages 63-93). Has anyone that has theirs yet had the same issue?

**Piperi**

endtransmission wrote:
RivenSkull wrote:

This is why I'm waiting to open anything beyond the main box. With all of those cards and no way of knowing if I'm missing one, I want to wait to have something official to compare them to.

Some kind soul has created a document listing all the components and cards that were in his set, using the checklists on the dividers for the cards where available

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kffLfd9kNdYN6NgKjKrfe8Y6m-35hfiBNTa_WteEVNU/pubhtml

There's also someone reporting that their rulebook is missing a load of pages (pages 63-93). Has anyone that has theirs yet had the same issue?

My rulebook was missing those pages as well. I just received a replacement rulebook with my Wave 1 shipping that included my resin models.

**Alpharius**

This is listed on the KD: M sale page:

Kingdom Death: Monster Contents

1 x Rule Book - 11" x 8.5" 223 Pages.
1 x Showdown Board - 2' x 3' ( Heavy 3MM Game Board Matte )
1 x Hunt / Settlement Board ( Heavy Cardstock )
1 x Token Sheet - 111 Tokens
1 x Terrain Token Sheet - 31 Terrain Tiles
1 x Monster Controller Panel
4 x Gear Grids
1 x Character Record Sheet Pad ( 50 Sheets, 6"x6")
1 x Settlement Record Sheet Pad ( 50 Sheets, 8.5" x 11")
5 x 10 sided black Kingdom Death dice
1 x 10 sided white Kingdom Death dice
4 x 6 sided Hit location dice

Kingdom Death: Monster Contents - Miniatures
- 4 x Starting Survivors
- 1 x White Lion
- 1 x Butcher
- 1 x Screaming Antelope
- 1 x Kings Man
- 1 x The Hand
- 1 x Phoenix
- 1 x Watcher
- 1 x Unarmored Armor Kit (Creates 4 Survivors.)
- 1 x Rawhide Armor Kit (Creates 4 Survivors.)
- 1 x Leather Armor Kit (Creates 4 Survivors.)
- 1 x White Lion Armor Kit (Creates 4 Survivors.)
- 1 x Screaming Fur Armor Kit (Creates 4 Survivors.)
- 1 x Phoenix Armor Kit (Creates 4 Survivors.)
- 1 x Lantern Armor Kit (Creates 4 Survivors.)
- 2 x Bonus Mystery Miniatures
- 4 x Starting Survivor Heads for Armor Kit customization
- 9 x Assorted Survivor Heads for Armor Kit customization
- 150+ Assorted Gear for Armor Kit customization (Every weapon in the game represented!)
- 10+ Masks
- 10 x Stone Face Base Inserts
- 34 x Kingdom Death 30mm Base + Insert
- 6 x Kingdom Death 50mm Base + Insert
- 1 x Kingdom Death 100mm Base + Insert

Kingdom Death: Monster Contents - Cards (3.5")
- 17 x Card Dividers
- 1 x White Lion Data Card
- 25 x White Lion AI Cards
- 23 x White Lion HL Cards
- 19 x White Lion Resource Cards
- 8 x White Lion Hunt Event Cards
- 1 x Screaming Antelope Data Card
- 30 x Screaming Antelope AI Cards
- 22 x Screaming Antelope HL Cards
- 16 x Screaming Antelope Resource Cards
- 9 x Screaming Antelope Hunt Event Cards
- 1 x Phoenix Data Card
- 31 x Phoenix AI Cards
- 22 x Phoenix HL Cards
- 24 x Phoenix Resource Cards
- 9 x Phoenix Hunt Event Cards
- 1 x Butcher Data Card
- 30 x Butcher AI Cards
- 15 x Butcher HL Cards
- 1 x King's Man
- 30 x King's Man AI Cards
- 21 x King's Man HL Cards
- 1 x The Hand Data Card
- 23 x The Hand AI Cards
- 17 x The Hand HL Cards
- 1 x Watcher Data Cards
- 23 x Watcher AI Cards
- 25 x Watcher HL Cards
- 12 x Basic Hunt Event Cards
- 2 x Special Hunt Event Cards
- 21 x Terrain Cards
- 6 x Armor Set Cards
- 17 x Universal Monster Cards
- 12 x Weapon Specialization Cards
- 6 x Secret Fighting Arts Cards
- 20 x Fighting Arts Cards
- 8 x Vermin Cards
- 21 x Strange Resource Cards
- 21 x Basic Resource Cards
- 23 x Disorder Cards
- 41 x Innovation Cards
- 12 x Starting Gear Cards
- 21 x Bone Smith Gear Cards
- 24 x Skinnery Gear Cards
- 15 x Organ Grinder Gear Cards
- 21 x Leather Worker Gear Cards
- 22 x Barber Surgeon Gear Cards
- 46 x Catarium Gear Cards
- 40 x Stone Circle Gear Cards
- 20 x Rare Gear Cards
- 7 x Mask Maker Gear Cards
- 39 x Blacksmith Gear Cards
- 21 x Settlement Event Cards ( 3.5" x 5.75")
- 13 x Settlement Location Cards ( 8" x 4")

**Bromsy**

Got mine, assembled the starter minis and tried a test game. Pretty brutal.

The initial flurry of stones netted me some extra resources and the effect that made the lion lose one movement - which as it turns out saved the game for me.

The lion did some damage, and the next round my last attack was one of my survivors biting off the lion's penis. The rest of the match was the lion dragging the person around gnawing on her until she died while my other survivors chased the lion, eventually killing it.

Got a fair number of crits and some nice extra resources.

**Dentry**

Ah, thanks for the update, Alpharius. That list is going to come in handy when I can get some time to sort through all my stuff. Feels like every time I sit down to go through it all someone shows up at my door or some order of business comes up and takes up my whole day. Very frustrating!

Bromsy wrote:
Got mine, assembled the starter minis and tried a test game. Pretty brutal.

The initial flurry of stones netted me some extra resources and the effect that made the lion lose one movement - which as it turns out saved the game for me.

The lion did some damage, and the next round my last attack was one of my survivors biting off the lion's penis. The rest of the match was the lion dragging the person around gnawing on her until she died while my other survivors chased the lion, eventually killing it.

Got a fair number of crits and some nice extra resources.

That sounds like a fun evening.

**SpectreHorseman**

As far as modeling goes, is anyone planning on making all the parts interchangeable? I think I have figured out a way. I'm using magnets for torso to legs and also torso to arms, but then I'm pinning the heads and hands with small wire cut from wire cloth. I cant recall the magnet diameter at the moment, but the drill bit that it fits into the hole is 5/64.

edit: just did some research and found the size I had ordered. It is 1/16 Diamter x 1/32 Thickness. Hole drilled with a 5/64 drill bit. Sometimes it fits snug, other times it needs a dab of superglue. I need to get me some plastic tweezer though cause its a bitch trying to put the magnet in the hole full of superglue using metal instruments, lol.

**Chopxsticks**

Some Rules questions!

So when one of your people cant go out on the next hunt and you have to create a new character do they gain a founding stone as a new character?

We just encountered the White lion mood Ground fighting, its the most OP thing we have encountered... and a founding stone would have been real handy.

**Triple9**

Only the original 4 get a founding stone, so use them wisely.

**primalexile**

Save those founding stones, it may be tempting to throw them early but you will regret it down the line.

**455_PWR**

I have a deluxe survivor pledge with one of every add on (resin and plastic). I received the base game with the survivor pledge box so far.

I have seen multiple people putting their promos (messenger minis, kara black, candy/cola, pinups) on ebay already. Were the resins and plastic extras being shipped at the same time or are we getting these later? Should I be worried if I haven't received them yet?

**Krinsath**

455_PWR wrote:
I have a deluxe survivor pledge with one of every add on (resin and plastic). I received the base game with the survivor pledge box so far.

I have seen multiple people putting their promos (messenger minis, kara black, candy/cola, pinups) on ebay already. Were the resins and plastic extras being shipped at the same time or are we getting these later? Should I be worried if I haven't received them yet?

No you should not.

If you ordered resins you're at the end of the "wave 1" queue along with people who ordered extra armor kits. That "wave" of orders are the most complex and being packed by Adam and his staff in NY. They began with the simplest orders (just plastic promos to work out the kinks in the process), then the international orders (as those would spend longer in transit) and then onto the larger and more complex orders as mentioned. The core box was "wave 2" which started after wave 1 but because they were dramatically simpler orders to process (nearly "put in box, slap on label" simplicity) they were dispatched faster, hence the confusing naming.

I suspect Adam was not expecting the speed at which things happened with wave 2 as his estimates were still another couple of weeks before shipping. That they're not done with Wave 1 says that their own estimates were a bit too optimistic. I do hope they finish up this week though, as I too am waiting for my own package. Lots of armor kits, and yet somehow I worry I may need more...

**gunslingerpro**

Anybody know what base sizes the Lion is on? I'm pretty sure it's 50mm, but I'm not 100%.

And the Butcher, I'm assuming he is 30mm?

**Krinsath**

gunslingerpro wrote:
Anybody know what base sizes the Lion is on? I'm pretty sure it's 50mm, but I'm not 100%.

And the Butcher, I'm assuming he is 30mm?

Page 49 of the rulebook says that all monsters are 50mm except the Phoenix which is 100mm.

However, I don't see 5 50mm bases in the Survivor rewards for the King's Men so I'm not sure if that's just "you only need the one for the game on the 50mm" or something else.

**gunslingerpro**

Krinsath wrote:
gunslingerpro wrote:
Anybody know what base sizes the Lion is on? I'm pretty sure it's 50mm, but I'm not 100%.

And the Butcher, I'm assuming he is 30mm?

Page 49 of the rulebook says that all monsters are 50mm except the Phoenix which is 100mm.

However, I don't see 5 50mm bases in the Survivor rewards for the King's Men so I'm not sure if that's just "you only need the one for the game on the 50mm" or something else.

See I read that as well, but when I look at the box contents on the Kickstarter page, it appears all the human monsters are on the 30mm bases: