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Has there been any more news on the ship finally reaching the EU?

 gunslingerpro wrote:

See I read that as well, but when I look at the box contents on the Kickstarter page, it appears all the human monsters are on the 30mm bases

I did the same thing and given their size, I don't think they would look odd for display. However, for gameplay purposes when given the choice between images of the prototype or the final printed rulebook, I'm going to side with the latter as being the authority. That there are 6 monsters that would use the 50mm base (i.e. - not the Phoenix) and 6 50mm bases is also a sign that this is the case.

The red herring is the King's Men we got as bonuses since I at least didn't get 5 50mm bases for them.

 Krinsath wrote:

 gunslingerpro wrote:

See I read that as well, but when I look at the box contents on the Kickstarter page, it appears all the human monsters are on the 30mm bases

I did the same thing and given their size, I don't think they would look odd for display. However, for gameplay purposes when given the choice between images of the prototype or the final printed rulebook, I'm going to side with the latter as being the authority. That there are 6 monsters that would use the 50mm base (i.e. - not the Phoenix) and 6 50mm bases is also a sign that this is the case.

The red herring is the King's Men we got as bonuses since I at least didn't get 5 50mm bases for them.

Nor did I. I suppose it makes more sense for them to be large since it allows more base contact points for survivor attacks, It just seemed odd to me to put a King's Hand on that giant base

That image also has the Phoenix on a 50mm base, so it's not necessarily reliable.

I found a video from the preview at GenCon which shows the King's Man and The Hand in a quick view. They're on 50mm bases:



Around the 41:20 mark in this video:

Well now I didn't bring the right bases to finish the modeling I was going to do during night shift *grumble grumble grumble*

Thanks for the quick responses guys!

Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents on the models as i've put together a variety so far.

As a general rule before getting into specifics, i'm pleased with the mold lines or lack thereof. I haven't found many and those I did see were very easily cleaned up.

Most disappointing was the White Lion. I like the overall feel of it, it's a great 'creepy' lion-ish monster, but have some issues with the pieces. It would have taken more work and patience than I had at the time to fix the seams around its face, and the rear pieces simply cannot be put together together without leaving large gaps, some in visible places. Good news is the gaps will be easy to fix with green stuff later (although I do not think I am going to worry about green stuffing the gap through the reproductive bits on the bottom).

The Twilight Knight went together easily and looks good. The definition and general quality is lower than everything else I've gotten, which is odd. I seem to recall that this was his first plastic 'test' piece so maybe that explains it.

I thought the pinup regeneration suit would have awfully obvious gaps, given the skintight nature of the suit itself, but was pleasantly surprised. It also introduced me to the fact that the sprue designers are not afraid to break things into itty bitty pieces. Her head / hair were separate, but the sculpt and careful assembly hides the seam well. A seam I expected to be awful - right between her butt cheeks and along part of her back - actually is invisible once assembled. Minor seams can be found in the front of the model - again, many tiny pieces - but overall this was the first mini that I was really happy with how it looked.

Lastly, the Butcher. Ye gods the tiny pieces. One piece of advice to those of you who haven't put him together yet - build and attach the legs to him before putting his 2-part cloak on. My ideal order, in hindsight, would be attaching the legs, then the multiple itty-bitty shoulderguard bits, then the cloak pieces, the arms, and the 3 head bits. I was tremendously impressed with the detail on the pieces and with how well this one went together. A few seams are visible on the final product but nothing a paintjob can't cover. The shoulderguard and head, while both being made of some pretty darned tiny bits, are worth the effort to get juuust right. Once finished he is a real mean looking figure with tons of detail and he looks spectacular whether you're looking at him from table height or right up close. He has gotten me really excited to work on more of the models.

Overall after those assemblies and looking through the sprues I'm very happy with what I got. The game itself looks like a lot of fun once I have a chance to get to it, but really the modeling aspect alone is going to give me hours and hours of enjoyment.

Eugh... just finished the phoenix. It was like putting together the worst puzzle ever: nothing but tiny little things that are all the same, and do they fit here? Or here?

 Dujek wrote:
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Have to agree. I put the shoulder and head on before attaching the cloak on the Butcher, and he came out great.

I'm having issues with the base survivors having large gaps. I also tried putting them on the stone face bases without pinning, which was foolish.

Probably assembled about a dozen of the models and did reasonably well I think. I had to refer to images online for some to get an idea of where parts went but other than that they go together pretty well.

Then I looked at the Phoenix and even though I have two of them, this was my reaction to doing it without directions:



So props for getting through it spiralingcadaver!

Overall I'm quite happy with what I've gotten and I actually want more armor kits. Granted, some of that enthusiasm may diminish when I finally get all the extras I did order... /pine for Wave 1 some more

 gunslingerpro wrote:

 Dujek wrote:
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I also tried putting them on the stone face bases without pinning, which was foolish.

Wait until you get to the Antelope.


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This could be the most addictive boardgame I've ever played. I find myself strategizing when not playing and I'm spending a lot more time playing it than I ever thought I would. It's nice to see how much of the past 3 years Poots has put into playtesting.

Anyone press mould one of the plastic face bases yet so you can create some bases with broke faces, terrain, etc?

For people assembling the Phoenix, there is a nice guide by a user named "Steve" on Kickstarter comments:

Wow the Phoenix is a nightmare to assemble! Even with a guide it will be tough. I had a go at putting together a rough guide based on the numbers on the sprue, hopefully this helps some people. 14 is the only one that didn't seem to fit nicely so it might be wrong but I'm not sure what it would swap with..
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/strewart/Kingdom%20Death/Phoenix%20Right%20inside_zpsubremowl.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/strewart/Kingdom%20Death/Phoenix%20Right%20outside_zpsofm1sdnh.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/strewart/Kingdom%20Death/Phoenix%20Left%20inside_zpsaxfevx7l.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/strewart/Kingdom%20Death/Phoenix%20Left%20outside_zpsknlelcea.jpg

 Absolutionis wrote:
For people assembling the Phoenix, there is a nice guide by a user named "Steve" on Kickstarter comments:

Wow the Phoenix is a nightmare to assemble! Even with a guide it will be tough. I had a go at putting together a rough guide based on the numbers on the sprue, hopefully this helps some people. 14 is the only one that didn't seem to fit nicely so it might be wrong but I'm not sure what it would swap with..
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/strewart/Kingdom%20Death/Phoenix%20Right%20inside_zpsubremowl.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/strewart/Kingdom%20Death/Phoenix%20Right%20outside_zpsofm1sdnh.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/strewart/Kingdom%20Death/Phoenix%20Left%20inside_zpsaxfevx7l.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/strewart/Kingdom%20Death/Phoenix%20Left%20outside_zpsknlelcea.jpg

Somebody get this man's address. I need to mail him a six pack.

 cincydooley wrote:
Anyone press mould one of the plastic face bases yet so you can create some bases with broke faces, terrain, etc?

Pretty close, these bases are all latex molds w/ plaster- broke them up a bit. Link.

I needed to fix a fair number of noses since they're tiny, but didn't really care if a lot looked broken since they're stone, etc.

I'm also sculpting a full terrain set of my own- have a head and a few plates of faces... if it goes well, I already like the game enough that I'd move on to a table.

Really like what you did with those bases. I shall steal.

 gunslingerpro wrote:
I also tried putting them on the stone face bases without pinning, which was foolish.

I saw a comment somewhere (Earlier in this topic? Facebook?) that filing or clipping down the nose where you want the foot really helps.

 Baragash wrote:

 gunslingerpro wrote:
I also tried putting them on the stone face bases without pinning, which was foolish.

I saw a comment somewhere (Earlier in this topic? Facebook?) that filing or clipping down the nose where you want the foot really helps.

Yeah, it may be worth carving out spots for the feet in general.

 BrookM wrote:
Has there been any more news on the ship finally reaching the EU?

The ship arrived on the 24th,

but reading between the lines of Adams recent comments it seems like customs may have decided it needs a more detailed look than the shipments to the US or Canada got (sigh) so I'd imagine it will be a few weeks more before the stuff hits the shipping company

Got my Wave 1, loving the models, so much so that i'm going to get this out here now, anyone who might have over ordered and wants to part with a gorm expansion, spidicules expansion, sunstalker expansion, lonley tree expansion or slenderman expansion, and any face base inserts, PM me

Man this game is tough. I lost all 4 Survivors on the 1st hunt after the 1st story.

Good to see you over here @spiralingcadaver (from the wyrd forums)

Thanks, Cincy- feel free! if you've got any advice on how to get those nose bubbles out, I'm all ears, though- that's the only part I was really having trouble with...

Spectre, hey, nice seeing you, too!


Oh, and yeah, decided I like things enough that I'm also interested in the few expansions I didn't claim- anyone with a gorm, tree, or lion god, I'm interested in trading. Maybe pinups, too.

SpectreHorseman wrote:
Man this game is tough. I lost all 4 Survivors on the 1st hunt after the 1st story.

Good to see you over here @spiralingcadaver (from the wyrd forums)

This game is exceptionally unforgiving if you make a mistake (or just have a string of bad luck), but also requires you to capitalize on every lucky roll the game gives you. I'm finding it extremely difficult to keep from taking the periodic mulligan.

The high difficulty is kind of what I had anticipated. I'm wondering to what extent I should "easy mode" the game. The business of creating new settlements & characters will get old if we don't have electronic sheets.

Hint, hint, Adam.

Triple9 wrote:
This game is exceptionally unforgiving if you make a mistake (or just have a string of bad luck), but also requires you to capitalize on every lucky roll the game gives you. I'm finding it extremely difficult to keep from taking the periodic mulligan.

We've instituted a house rule after a string of bad luck involved 9 of our survivors dying to random events over 2 or 3 years.

You can now spend all survival (min 2) to prevent death to random event.

It means that new survivors and returning ones stretched to their limit still die, but it does prevent that survivor with 5 survival from coming back from a good fight and then stubbing his toe to death on a 1 or whatever.

So far, it's felt like a good compromise where things are lethal, but, like in combat, you have a chance to "dodge" it.

The big point to the game is that survivors are very mortal. Your 'lives' are the people within the settlement. Sure you can have a single survivor and get really attached to them, but your settlement is what is meant to go on.

Plus, your items carry over between characters (barring special circumstances). Sometimes, if you become unreasonably crippled, it's better to retire and just make another character from the "life pool". Also form tons of babbies when you can.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The high difficulty is kind of what I had anticipated. I'm wondering to what extent I should "easy mode" the game. The business of creating new settlements & characters will get old if we don't have electronic sheets.

Hint, hint, Adam.

There's always the unofficial character sheet: here

 Absolutionis wrote:
The big point to the game is that survivors are very mortal. Your 'lives' are the people within the settlement. Sure you can have a single survivor and get really attached to them, but your settlement is what is meant to go on.

Plus, your items carry over between characters (barring special circumstances). Sometimes, if you become unreasonably crippled, it's better to retire and just make another character from the "life pool". Also form tons of babbies when you can.

Yeah, we've definitely learned to consider population as a resource, but going through a run of losing 2 survivors to actual fights but 9 to random events was pretty frustrating. We were doing decently well, except the part where we couldn't maintain a population because of random.

Well, they sent me the white speaker and twilight knight, but then they accidentally sent me a second white speaker. Should I contact them about sending it back, or just not bother?

 Dentry wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The high difficulty is kind of what I had anticipated. I'm wondering to what extent I should "easy mode" the game. The business of creating new settlements & characters will get old if we don't have electronic sheets.

Hint, hint, Adam.

There's always the unofficial character sheet: here

Thank you

Yes, thank you for that electronic survivor sheet.

I finished painting up my Starting survivors. I decided to go with a clean look on the base, to fit the "less is more" overall look of the game. I added the colors to differentiate among the players, in classic board game style.