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I originally meant them to be in a squad, so the point cost is low, and they need refining, but the basic structure is there.

Corporal "Ace" Jefferson 65pts

Ws 4
Bs 5
S 3
T 4
W 2
I 3
A 2
Ld 8
Sv 4+

Wargear: Hellgun, carapace armour,
Extra mags, CC weapon, frag grenades.

Extra mags: may re-roll to hit on shooting phase.

Special rules: Scout, Move through cover, stealth, expert shot, IC

Expert shot: Jeffersons weapon counts as an Assault 2 weapon.

Corporal "Ninja" Yakamoto
70pts

Ws 4
Bs 4
S 3
T 3
W 2
I 4
A 3
Ld 8
Sv 4+

Wargear: 2 CC weapons poison (2+), Hotshot Laspistol, Hotshot Lasgun, Frag Grenades, carapace armour.

Special Rules: Scout, Move through cover, stealth, Martial Artist, Fast, IC.

Martial Arts: Yakamoto always hits on a 4+ regardless of the enemy (unless he originally would hit better)

Fast: Yakamoto recieves a 4+ Inv. save in CC

Corporal "Tiny" Jackson
65pts

Ws 4
Bs 4
S 4
T 3
W 2
I 3
A 2
Ld 8
Sv 4+

Wargear: Plasma gun, Carapace armour, CC weapon, frag and krak grenades.

Special rules: Ammo man, scout, move through cover, Relentless, stealth, IC.

Ammo man: everyone within 3" of Jackson may re-roll to hit on the shooting phase.


Veteran Sergeant "Sarge" Thompson
55pts

Ws 4
Bs 4
S 3
T 3
W 3
I 3
A 3
Ld 10
Sv 4+

Wargear: Hotshot laspistol, Power Sword, Carapace armour, frag grenades.

Special rules: Scout, move through cover, stealth, inspiring leader, IC

Inspiring leader: everyone in the squad gains the Stubborn special rule.

Corporal "Grot" Baranovsky
80pts

Ws 4
Bs 4
S 3
T 3
W 2
I 3
A 1
Ld 8
Sv 4+

Wargear: CC weapon, carapace armour, Modifyed Hotshot lasgun, Flash grenades.

Modifyed Hotshot lasgun:
Range 24"
Str 3
AP 3
Type Rapid fire, Rending, Gets Hot!

Flash grenades: Assault & Defensive grenades.

Special Rules: Scout, Mechanic, Move through cover, stealth IC.

Mechanic: when Baranovsky is within 3" of an allied vehicle, throw a d6 on a 5-6 a Weapon destroyed or Immobilized result is fixed it's the players choice, but if a 1 is rolled, the vehicle is stunned.

Sorry to sound harsh but these are a bit of a mess... Here are the points i have found after 5 mins (i am no expert).

First off why is making them a squad an excuse to make them cheaper?!

First dude is too cheap and without any explanation packs both toughness and Initiative 4.

Ninja guy should be about 60-80 points and is OP with hit on 3+ and wound on 2+, one or the other. The paralysis rule is odd, pinning has no effect in close combat.

tiny: If they are a squad then why is he slow and purposeful? Plus move through cover and slow and purposeful is something of a strange combination!

Sarge: The most realistically costed guy here, even so; guardsmen don't have Initiative 4!

Final point if you want to make them a squad everyone should have 1 wound, possibly 2 for the sergeant. They aren't monstrous creatures!

Second of all a Unique squad should have the following template: Sarge 1 piece of fancy wargear, 2 decent stats, 1 special rule. Squadmembers: 1 decent stat 1 fancy piece of wargear OR special rule. This way it remains fun but not horrendously confusing.

Perkustin wrote:Sorry to sound harsh but these are a bit of a mess... Here are the points i have found after 5 mins (i am no expert).

First off why is making them a squad an excuse to make them cheaper?!

I originally planned for the characters to be in a squad. they are going to cost more, I just planned them on my phone, and like I said, this is the basic structure. Not the whole thing.

First dude is too cheap and without any explanation packs both toughness and Initiative 4.

Same thing as above

Ninja guy should be about 60-80 points and is OP with hit on 3+ and wound on 2+, one or the other. The paralysis rule is odd, pinning has no effect in close combat.

Pinning has no effect in CC? oh...

tiny: If they are a squad then why is he slow and purposeful? Plus move through cover and slow and purposeful is something of a strange combination!

They aren't a squad, I added the Special rule later. and to cover my mistake, let's assume he goes faster in cover

Sarge: The most realistically costed guy here, even so; guardsmen don't have Initiative 4!

These aren't regular guardsmen... they are ''Realistic'' stormtroopers (Realistic marines would have an Initiative of 5 I presume)

Final point if you want to make them a squad everyone should have 1 wound, possibly 2 for the sergeant. They aren't monstrous creatures!

Again... my first reply

Second of all a Unique squad should have the following template: Sarge 1 piece of fancy wargear, 2 decent stats, 1 special rule. Squadmembers: 1 decent stat 1 fancy piece of wargear OR special rule. This way it remains fun but not horrendously confusing.

Again... my first reply

why is this here when he has poisened (2+) weapons? Typo?

Still doesn't explain this:

sluggaslugga wrote:I originally meant them to be in a squad, so the point cost is low

Dont put points costs if you know before you post that they are bunk.

I would start off by increasing the points costs, for example sly Marbo is 65 points, Harker is 55 (1 wound) and Bastonne (1 wound) is 60, go from there, How do your guys compare? What do the characters from the codex do for the points etc.

Finally Alot of the special rules are a bit strange/confusing. A starter would be to rethink the ninja, the stat line/wargear is okay but the special rules are strange, replace them with an wych invulnerable save?

Chuck Norris wrote:Martial Arts: Yakamoto always wounds on a 3+ unless, the enemy model has a Ws of a 6 or more./

why is this here when he has poisened (2+) weapons? Typo?

Whoops... I mean't hits on a 3+...

To be honest, I had a brief skim over the rules and I can immediatly see that this simply wouldn't work. Having 5 different characters in one unit would be so confusing: you would have to keep constantly flicking back to their rules, checking "which guy had this wargear", "which guy was WS5" etc.

Forget the squad... does anyone actually read the quotes I post

EDIT: I tweaked the rules a bit.

This is definitive fan-wankery.

I suggest playing in a Kill Team campaign with experience and advancement if you want to see squads like this. This has no place in a 40K game.

Cottonjaw wrote:This is definitive fan-wankery.

I suggest playing in a Kill Team campaign with experience and advancement if you want to see squads like this. This has no place in a 40K game.

QFT