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So first off I was born in 91, which means I really can't remember anything before 95. With that said, I never was exposed to Transformers. But I always loved robots. Especially big robots, and I also am a car enthusiast... so it seems like the perfect match!! Well luckily for me and other younger generations a certain director decides to make a movie of them. And oh my God, how much I fething hate it....
First off. Shia Lebouf... or as I like to call him "The Even Stevens kid". The feth is wrong with his character? Does EVERY movie's protagonist have to be a socially-awkward slow who just seems to have the best luck in the world? BE ORIGINAL!! PLEASE!! Seriously, it's getting really old, and makes me HATE the protagonist. That's the opposite of what you want.
Second. THAT is the problem right there. Why the FETH is Lebouf the protagonist? Why? This is called TRANSFORMERS, not "A Socially Awkward Boy and his Magical GM Cars." I know that in the original show there was a boy named Daniel and his Dad who had exo-suits (at least they were useful!) but they weren't the center of focus. They were supporting characters, LIKE THEY fething SHOULD BE!! I watched the Transformers Movie (the animated film) last night. My GOD!!! It was FETHING AWESOME!!!!! Just non stop Robots-beating-the-absolute-gak-out-of-each-other-ACTION!!! The Animation was excellent, the soundtrack was fething amazing! (Which is surprising, I don't listen to 80s music)
Third. Longest fething advertisement for GM EVER!!! It was really funny because my Dad went with me and my brother to go see this movie and he laughed at the scene where the Mustang-police car was chasing Even-Stevens kid. Then a chase scene between the new Camaro and Mustang ensued...
This movie should have just been called "GM vs. Ford!!!"
And last but not least... Megan Fox. Seriously. Enough is enough. I fething HATE MEGAN FOX. Biggest attention whore ever. This chic obviously has some serious fething daddy issues. Every time she's on the screen she tries to be as hot as possible. Why can't you... ya know.... JUST fething ACT?! Listen. I'm not a 12 year old boy who just discovered masturbation and that boobies give me a tingly feeling in my pants. If I want to see a hot chic on a screen, I'll go watch some fething porn. There are hotter chics in most pornos I've than Megan Fox. Stupid c***
So anyways, thanks Mr. Bay for making my first exposure to Transformers a miserable one. Thank you. Thank you so much.
And while we're at it STOP PUTTING DECIPTICON AND AUTOBOT EMBLEMS ON YOUR CARS!! You look like a douche.
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Maybe you hang out with immature women. Maybe you're attracted to immature women because you think they'll let you shpadoink them.
Be born in the 80s and your opinion *might* be valid. And for the record, I've known of several instances where people (myself included) have gotten laid for having either Transformers tattoos or emblems on their car. How often... ehh, n/m. That's a low blow
I don't know why but I am sure I have seen this exact same thread before... strange
Also, I like to think that the Transformers movies didn't happen and that Michael Bay has been locked up and is forced to watch his own movies forever...
I agree with everything above and I was largely the same position with not being exposed to transformers until much later on in my life.
The other point I would add is the cinematography. I mean, the models and design for the transformers are great. A little too complicated for my liking but I applaud the artists for trying to make the robots more realistic. The problem then is that Micheal Bay has no capacity for good camera positioning or for appreciation of the robots designs. It's all explosions, debris, sparks, everything blends together. Take the fight between Optimus and the decepticons in the forest during ROTF. I have no idea what's happening.
Monster Rain wrote:I think I'd probably pass on someone who sleeps with strangers because of Transformers stickers on their car.
Not that that story is even remotely true.
There are pics and it did happen. You people need to learn not to doubt me
iproxtaco wrote:I agree with everything above and I was largely the same position with not being exposed to transformers until much later on in my life.
The other point I would add is the cinematography. I mean, the models and design for the transformers are great. A little too complicated for my liking but I applaud the artists for trying to make the robots more realistic. The problem then is that Micheal Bay has no capacity for good camera positioning or for appreciation of the robots designs. It's all explosions, debris, sparks, everything blends together. Take the fight between Optimus and the decepticons in the forest during ROTF. I have no idea what's happening.
I can agree with this. The action sequences, especially in the urban settings, have so much grey/silver collision it can be really, really hard to make out who just punched who and where. Overall I think the movies are decent minus the stupid extra crap (mom eats pot brownies than acts like she's on crack for some reason).
Actually the whole GM Vs. Ford thing from the first movie makes me want to do a parody of the Console Wars video that James Rolfe (AVGN) did.
All the of the American Muscle cars talking gak to each other and at the end have the Dodge Charger and Challenger act like they came back from retirement and now for whatever reason weighing in at 4000+ lbs. What a bunch of fat-asses!
And as for the Transformers logos on people's cars: do some REAL work to the car (this does not include a new muffler which is obnoxiously loud and leads you to believe it will somehow magically add 10hp).
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Maybe you hang out with immature women. Maybe you're attracted to immature women because you think they'll let you shpadoink them.
Agree with pretty much everything said, even if that results in contradictory points.
Anyway, I'll just point out that the reason the Mr. Even Stevens kid is there is because in the new films, the great big killy robots of death aren't universally accepted and humans just want to tear them apart to make their own great big killy weapons of death.
In all of the old cartoons and films (which were great) humans and transformers lived in harmony (on the Autobots' part) and were accepting of each other. Almost like the great big friendly robots were family.
But in the new films the great big friendly robots are ALIENS.
The movies are meh, the old cartoon was meh with a side of extra meh (I personally loathe the fandom that it gets; it was the first cartoon used solely to sell toys, big whoop), but I don't think it deserves the rage. The first one had some decent action, and number two was gak. Let's hope the series follows the "Pirates" line of #1 is simple, #2 is gak, and #3 is good but complex.
And while I am perplexed by your hatred of Megan Fox, know that she will not be in the third one.
Honestly, if you want your robot on robot fightin' action, ignore the movies entirely and go for one of two things. Either Transformers Animated (yes, the kid show - remember, it's a series MADE for kids, but that doesn't stop it from being good; in fact, it's got one of the best TF universes out there and EXCELLENT animation and stories) or the IDW comics. The IDW comics have a fantastic over-arching storyline, focuses on the Transformers first and foremost, and when the robots go at it, man, they REALLY go at it. Not to mention that aside from the few hiccups in the storyline (All Hail Megatron, while it had a neat idea, was poorly written and confused quite a few things that had been established) it's fantastically written.
As for the movies, lack of screen time in the first one is due to them spending the majority of their budget on figuring out how to get them on screen, and the crap actors and writing are, well, because it's Michael Bay at the helm. If you go in expecting anything more than explosions and bad acting, then you're doing something wrong and will be horribly disappointed.
Ouze on GW: "I'd like to be like, hey baby, you're a freak but you just got too much crazy going on, and I don't hook up with bunny boilers. But then Necrons are going to come out, and I'm going to be like damn girl, and then next thing you know, it's angry sex time again.
It's complicated."
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Not a fan of the films, nor of Michael "Boom Bam" Bay, and agree that the original cartoon was basicly a half hour of advertising for a line of toys ( that was on occasion entertaining).
Also A bit perplexed about the "Megan Fox Hate", no she's not particularly talented, but neither is anyone else in those Bay crapfest...so what's the issue?
She's an attractive woman, and I'd bet my bottom dollar that very few of the people posting in these forums would tell her to "hit the bricks" were she to show up at their homes in an "amorous" mood.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
I actually think women that look like her are unattractive, to be honest. Not in a "recoil in horror" kind of way, but in a "You're not really my type" kind of way. She's a bit too supermodel for my tastes - I've always been the kind of guy that prefers girl-next-door kind of looks. I'd prefer someone like Zooey Deschanel to Megan Fox.
Ouze on GW: "I'd like to be like, hey baby, you're a freak but you just got too much crazy going on, and I don't hook up with bunny boilers. But then Necrons are going to come out, and I'm going to be like damn girl, and then next thing you know, it's angry sex time again.
It's complicated."
Da Goldtoof Marauders - 2000 pts, The Sacred Host of Kai'Xili (Lizardmen) - 500 pts
When I was a kid (I'm 16), I used to watch Transformers on my Saturday morning. I may not have grown up with the gun version of Megatron, but I had grown up with Megatron. I used to love him, and I even cried when he died. Then Starscream let the Decepticons, and he was just a snot nosed brat, so I rooted for Optimus during the fight for Minicons and Energon. Then Megatron was given new life, and I was so happy.
Then, at the age of 13, I saw the Transformers movie.
It raped my eyeballs with its stupidness. Megatron was a pussy villian, and had a stupid voice actor to boot. The voice actor in the cartoon was sinister without being silly. The voice actor in the movie chewed the scenery like fething Tim Curry. They even got the god damned model for Megatron wrong! Megatron was always very blocky, had soemthing on his head, and had a big purple Decepticon logo on his chest.
This is Megatron most people know. He was very evil looking.
Spoiler:
This was the Megatron I grew up with. He was violent, had method to his madness, and always had a plan up his sleeve.
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This is the Megatron that I go "WTF?" at. His model looks like gak, and his transformed mode looks like gak.
They went for a more modern art style which worked better on some characters than others, especially megatron. The spindly/sinewy robot look didn't work for hiim.
Special Features of the DVD had a comparison between the current and original voices, I have to say that the new one sounds better on this model.
What's wrong with the model? Too many over-plates. They should be larger, more interlocking, less like muscles. They should also have made his neck bigger, it would at least make him look cooler as he is and his head smaller. One last thing is his arms. Wrists too big, palms too big, fingers too spindly.
This is why they make the original on DVD my friend. So when you leave the theater with your hand glued to your face you can tell yourself, well at least they put the original on DVD, so the memory of how awesome they were, was saved for future generations.
Maybe you hang out with immature women. Maybe you're attracted to immature women because you think they'll let you shpadoink them. 
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you can tell yourself, well at least they put the original on DVD, so the memory of how awesome they were, was saved for future generations.