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So I'm very perplexed with the way the new codex states the info about the Trukks. Am I only allowed to take a Trukk as a dedicated transport? I'd like to stick my burnas in there and have them use it but they don't have a "dedicated transport" slot. I mean I understand I can take a squad of 12 boys and use the their trukk as burna transport but then I feel like I'm obligated to take a small unit when my army is based on bigger units. Someone got an answer?

Does no one know?

yes the trukk can only be bought as a dedicated transport, However when bought with a squad of boys it can only transport those boys since it is there dedicated transport. If you wanna get your burna boys into a transport it's gotta be either a battlewagon or a looted wagon.

Not entirely correct. Only the mob of Boyz it was bought with may start embarked on it. You are quite free to deploy it empty and embark your Burnas in your first turn, or embark them at any later stage.

Arakasi is correct, you can buy it for a unit of boys, and deploy it empty, then have your Burnas embark first turn. Also the squad of boys that brings the Trukk can be larger then 12, it just can not embark unless it is 12 models or less.

Thaanos wrote:Also the squad of boys that brings the Trukk can be larger then 12, it just can not embark unless it is 12 models or less.

This is incorrect. Only mobs of 12 or less can have a trukk.

Thaanos wrote:Arakasi is correct, you can buy it for a unit of boys, and deploy it empty, then have your Burnas embark first turn. Also the squad of boys that brings the Trukk can be larger then 12, it just can not embark unless it is 12 models or less.

Only Spess Mareens of other colors than black get that special treatment.

insaniak wrote:

Thaanos wrote:Also the squad of boys that brings the Trukk can be larger then 12, it just can not embark unless it is 12 models or less.

This is incorrect. Only mobs of 12 or less can have a trukk.

Ooops my bad, I didn't have my codex in front of me....

Jidmah wrote:
Only Spess Mareens of other colors than black get that special treatment.

Ya I was thinking of my Tactical Marines and a Razorback....

Trukks aren't that great for burnas anyways, it will get blown up.

Battlewagons are a lot more survivable.

With the added bonus that you can fit 15 burnas, a kff mek with burna and a warboss with kombi-skorcha all in the same transport Flames...mmmmm....

Of course if you play full disclosure, and most do, that battlebus is going up in flames... mmm... flames...

Ascalam wrote:With the added bonus that you can fit 15 burnas, a kff mek with burna and a warboss with kombi-skorcha all in the same transport Flames...mmmmm....

Of course if you play full disclosure, and most do, that battlebus is going up in flames... mmm... flames...

Thanks everyone, great help!

insaniak wrote:

Thaanos wrote:Also the squad of boys that brings the Trukk can be larger then 12, it just can not embark unless it is 12 models or less.

This is incorrect. Only mobs of 12 or less can have a trukk.

Are you sure about this ? In the FAQ for the SM's I found this....... Am I reading this wrong ?



Q: Some Space Marine squads can take a Razorback as a
dedicated transport. A Razorback has a transport capacity
of six models. Can you still choose this as a dedicated
transport for a squad with more than six models? (p77)
A: Yes

Yes, but in the Kodex: Orks it specifically says that mobs of 12 or fewer may take a trukk.

-cgmckenzie

cgmckenzie wrote:Yes, but in the Kodex: Orks it specifically says that mobs of 12 or fewer may take a trukk.

-cgmckenzie

I just read that and it does not state that? What page so I can read it. Thanks...


Update.... It does not state that at all. It tells you they can have 12 models in a trukk. This would fall under the same issue i found on the SM FAQ.

It's in the Boyz army list entry, where it lists the transport option.

The FAQ entry for Space Marines is referring to the fact that they don't have any similar restriction. It doesn't over-ride the rules for other Codexes that do have a restriction on unit size.

Pg 100 ork kodex
"Mobs of 12 or fewer models may take a trukk as a dedicated transport vehicle."

-cgmckenzie

cgmckenzie wrote:Pg 100 ork kodex
"Mobs of 12 or fewer models may take a trukk as a dedicated transport vehicle."

-cgmckenzie

I see it and it does say it, Thanks. I have never played that way but that is dumb. Lol

Just a quick piece of advice: if people are referencing a rule about a unit, check all pieces in the codex about that unit before calling shenanigans.

-cgmckenzie

cgmckenzie wrote:Just a quick piece of advice: if people are referencing a rule about a unit, check all pieces in the codex about that unit before calling shenanigans.

-cgmckenzie

I wonder if this a is Good Case for RAW vs RAI. Are there other units that have this kind of wording to stop them from take more models then the vehicle can hold. Then again it is orks so they just might really wanted it this way. It would be cool to take 30 boys and a trukk for a group of burna's

jordan23ryan wrote:

cgmckenzie wrote:Just a quick piece of advice: if people are referencing a rule about a unit, check all pieces in the codex about that unit before calling shenanigans.

-cgmckenzie

I wonder if this a is Good Case for RAW vs RAI. Are there other units that have this kind of wording to stop them from take more models then the vehicle can hold. Then again it is orks so they just might really wanted it this way. It would be cool to take 30 boys and a trukk for a group of burna's

Almost every unit in the game has this restriction. There are a few exceptions, like Space Marines and Razorbacks. But, the idea is that if you take 10 Marines with a Razorback, you'd combat squad.

Only Space Marines get that groovy shenanigan. It's not just orks, it's all non-marines (and Black templars )

There is no Raw/Rai issue, as it was written deliberately that way, because they are such special snowflakes..

This theme seems familiar somehow..

Everyone else can only take a dedicated transport if the unit is under the capacity of the vehicle. It's usually pretty clear.

No it's not. Most dedicated transports are just available to appropriate sized units due to balancing. Just imagine a kan wall getting 4-6 trucks just to tank shock stuff and blow up hordes with the guaranteed 6" explosion from Kaboom.

um, you can, dude.

Take 6 barebones troops units, leave them disembarked and have at The Kaboom isn't a guaranteed 6'' as far as I remember though, nor is Kaboom a guaranteed result in any way. Sounds like a rather risky and pointless tactic to me...


No it isn't what? Which part of it are you disagreeing with?

Did I at any point suggest that the transports should be allowed regardless of unit size? I'm not seeing it.

I pointed out that dedicated vehicles are squad-size limited. They almost all have text saying that you can only have the transport if your unit is under x size. Seems clear to me

The only exception i know of is Space Marines, with he Razorback. Any others?

Ascalam wrote:The only exception i know of is Space Marines, with he Razorback. Any others?

I believe Imperial Guard can take Chimeras even if they blob up into a squad too big to fit inside.

Grakmar wrote:

Ascalam wrote:The only exception i know of is Space Marines, with he Razorback. Any others?

I believe Imperial Guard can take Chimeras even if they blob up into a squad too big to fit inside.

There's few IG units that can buy a Chimera and be over capacity before that. Ogryns can since they take two spaces apiece and can potentially start the game ten strong. Still, that's one codex besides marines that doesn't mention units having to fit in the DT they can buy.

Ok.

How about anything non-IOM

Ascalam wrote:um, you can, dude.

Take 6 barebones troops units, leave them disembarked and have at The Kaboom isn't a guaranteed 6'' as far as I remember though, nor is Kaboom a guaranteed result in any way. Sounds like a rather risky and pointless tactic to me...


No it isn't what? Which part of it are you disagreeing with?

Did I at any point suggest that the transports should be allowed regardless of unit size? I'm not seeing it.

I pointed out that dedicated vehicles are squad-size limited. They almost all have text saying that you can only have the transport if your unit is under x size. Seems clear to me

The only exception i know of is Space Marines, with he Razorback. Any others?

My post was in response to jordans, yours wasn't there. Just look at the posting times.

The point is you can get four fast big shootas with the ability to tankshock in addition to 80 boyz, for 35 points each.

Kaboom! is yet another translation error in the German codex, it actually says 6" rather than D6" there, my fault.

Fair enough then

Didn't see the posting times were so close, so I assumed that you were answering me. It had been a long day, and i'm never at my best after about 48 waking hours in a row. Sorry about that :(

I WISH it was guaranteeably as 6' explosion. It would make people a lot more cagy about attacking in close to ork vehicles