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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 10:32:58
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Fleshound of Khorne
South Africa (akaThe Armpit of the Devil)
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Do anyone still play the Carnifex?
I know they are more expensive and got nerfed big time, but I miss seeing these monsters across the table from me!
All these new nid lists look the same: Trygon, Hive Tyrant, Doom, warriors, hive guard and genestealers. Add Zoanthropes to taste!
Gone is the day of the Carnifex charge and armies scrambling for things to shoot them dead!
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Fortune may favour the brave, but Khorne favours me!!!
quote=malfred]I want to take that Falcon and make it pregnant.
In response to Jutami's awesome painting |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 10:46:22
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
Australia
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Well, I've got Mech Guard as my main army, but when my mate comes over to play he uses it and i switch to my unpainted Tyrannids. I got spanked a few times playing the horde then I researched on Dakka and slapped him down with Carnifex's and Tervigons. It was so sweet I wanted to cry...even though my Tervigons were represented by Genestealers on beer coasters...I say, if you love the model like I do, then use them, T6 is hard to beat!
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4th company
The Screaming Beagles of Helicia V
Hive Fleet Jumanji
I'll die before I surrender Tim! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 10:53:53
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Fleshound of Khorne
South Africa (akaThe Armpit of the Devil)
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I don't play nids, just that my buddy used to. But when going to club games and tourneys, you don't see Carnies anymore!
I really enjoyed playing against them! It was always a gamble whether my Zerks could take one out, but it was fun!
Then came the new codex and you could field squads of three!!!
I thought: Jeez! Everyones gonna spam 9 carnies! Yipee!!!
Much to my dissapointment, I have not seen or killed a Carnie in more than 14months!!!
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Fortune may favour the brave, but Khorne favours me!!!
quote=malfred]I want to take that Falcon and make it pregnant.
In response to Jutami's awesome painting |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 11:05:16
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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For competetive play no. Competitive lists are what you tend to see.. on the Internet at least. If you like them go for it. Personally i believe in the power of 3's when it comes to xenos, so 3 brood of 3 should be a bundle of fun and good luck. Combine that with 6 18's of Gaunts, and a Swarmlord with 2 Tyrant guard and you have yourself a fun time. IMO anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 15:45:19
Subject: Re:the Forgotten Monster
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Hellish Haemonculus
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I've never seen a Carnifex on the table in fifth edition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 16:18:37
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Hauptmann
In the belly of the whale.
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I remember facing off against the 'nid MC spam. Christ it was hard to beat.
Ahh the good ol' days.
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kestril wrote:The game is only as fun as the people I play it with.
"War is as natural to a man as maternity is to a woman." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 12:49:34
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Brainy Zoanthrope
Underground in a Mawloc-proof zone.
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I use 2 of them, but there seems to be nobody else at my store who uses them.
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DT:80S++G++MB+IPw40k056D+A++/areWD375 R+++T(T)DM+
3,500 points
Dwarfs: 150 points?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 15:48:29
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Ghost of Greed and Contempt
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I got me a carnifex, I intend to use it as a bullet magnet while the rest of my army advances!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 18:32:01
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Considering that their base cost is the same as the other MCs who out perform them in pretty much every way, and that once you've upgraded them, they've become an even more ridiculous point-sink, there is just very little attractive about them if you have any other options.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 18:41:18
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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I made a planned army list for nids that uses 2-3 of them.
That and some hordes, with a tervigon (or 2) I think?
I planned to force my opponents to have too much to shoot at. Of course dark eldar kinda made monsterous creature spam run under the table these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 18:52:00
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/user/edit/40180.page
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Ithought they were still popular! But I have NEVER seen a Venomthrope on the table
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DS:90S+G++MB++I+Pw40k09#+D++A+/eWD344R++T(S)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 21:07:59
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Brainy Zoanthrope
Underground in a Mawloc-proof zone.
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People say that that Venomthropes are stupid with the T4 and only gives a 5+ cover. I run 3 and they are fantastic.
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DT:80S++G++MB+IPw40k056D+A++/areWD375 R+++T(T)DM+
3,500 points
Dwarfs: 150 points?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 21:18:48
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/user/edit/40180.page
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Don't they combine the cover save or something?
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DS:90S+G++MB++I+Pw40k09#+D++A+/eWD344R++T(S)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 21:31:17
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Terrifying Doombull
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Yes I do miss Carnifexes, althou I generaly miss Nid players. Emperor knows I could murder for something esle than Sm, IG and GK to play against
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 22:32:07
Subject: Re:the Forgotten Monster
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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I've actually seen people play them at my locals. One of the tyranid players uses a Dakkafex or two. I can't recall how many exactly he plays.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 06:07:34
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Shrieking Guardian Jetbiker
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Trondheim wrote:Yes I do miss Carnifexes, althou I generaly miss Nid players. Emperor knows I could murder for something esle than Sm, IG and GK to play against
QFT
I do want to try thr 9 fex list, but alas, they got nerfed big time! Then DE came along with all their poison and then GK came along with all the force weapons  It's a tough time to be a canifex these days
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 06:22:27
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Fleshound of Khorne
South Africa (akaThe Armpit of the Devil)
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I forgot about DE poison and GK force weapons.
Thanx for reminding me. I was about to start spending on a 9fex list!
Damnit! Oh well, RIP Carnifex!
You will be missed!
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Fortune may favour the brave, but Khorne favours me!!!
quote=malfred]I want to take that Falcon and make it pregnant.
In response to Jutami's awesome painting |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 06:22:37
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Manhunter
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MikZor wrote:Trondheim wrote:Yes I do miss Carnifexes, althou I generaly miss Nid players. Emperor knows I could murder for something esle than Sm, IG and GK to play against
QFT
I do want to try thr 9 fex list, but alas, they got nerfed big time! Then DE came along with all their poison and then GK came along with all the force weapons  It's a tough time to be a canifex these days
Biggest wish: I want every thing balanced out. So that every unit is good in some way.
But that won't happen unless GW gives stuff to people other than SM
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Lokas wrote:...Enemy of my enemy is kind of a dick, so let's kill him too.
"Without judgement there is no obstacle to action." ~ Kommander Oleg Strakhov
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 06:35:48
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Shrieking Guardian Jetbiker
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forruner_mercy wrote:MikZor wrote:Trondheim wrote:Yes I do miss Carnifexes, althou I generaly miss Nid players. Emperor knows I could murder for something esle than Sm, IG and GK to play against
QFT
I do want to try thr 9 fex list, but alas, they got nerfed big time! Then DE came along with all their poison and then GK came along with all the force weapons  It's a tough time to be a canifex these days
Biggest wish: I want every thing balanced out. So that every unit is good in some way.
But that won't happen unless GW gives stuff to people other than SM
Even the pyrovore  but yeah i hear you. We can always dream...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 07:12:13
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Norn Queen
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I'm running them in my list simply because I love the model and think Trygons should still be in Apocalypse only.
They're not competitive, but if your gaming group isn't, who cares?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 13:11:03
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Brainy Zoanthrope
Underground in a Mawloc-proof zone.
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guyperson5 wrote:Don't they combine the cover save or something?
They just give a 5+ cover save to all units within 6".
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DT:80S++G++MB+IPw40k056D+A++/areWD375 R+++T(T)DM+
3,500 points
Dwarfs: 150 points?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 15:55:56
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Manhunter
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Nuclear_Bomb wrote:guyperson5 wrote:Don't they combine the cover save or something?
They just give a 5+ cover save to all units within 6".
That doesn't seem to bad to me.
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Lokas wrote:...Enemy of my enemy is kind of a dick, so let's kill him too.
"Without judgement there is no obstacle to action." ~ Kommander Oleg Strakhov
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 16:18:49
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Brainy Zoanthrope
Underground in a Mawloc-proof zone.
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forruner_mercy wrote:Nuclear_Bomb wrote:guyperson5 wrote:Don't they combine the cover save or something?
They just give a 5+ cover save to all units within 6".
That doesn't seem to bad to me.
It really isn't that bad, but when it comes to S8 rockets firing at the venomthrope(s) they just get insta-killed.
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DT:80S++G++MB+IPw40k056D+A++/areWD375 R+++T(T)DM+
3,500 points
Dwarfs: 150 points?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 04:48:16
Subject: Re:the Forgotten Monster
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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A friend of mine who plays Tyranids uses them from time to time, for nostalgia, and in friendly games.
They tend to get annihilated across the board by my Necron Destroyers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 04:53:45
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Norn Queen
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Nuclear_Bomb wrote:forruner_mercy wrote:Nuclear_Bomb wrote:guyperson5 wrote:Don't they combine the cover save or something?
They just give a 5+ cover save to all units within 6".
That doesn't seem to bad to me.
It really isn't that bad, but when it comes to S8 rockets firing at the venomthrope(s) they just get insta-killed.
And yet again we come to the concept of cover. Venomthropes hand it out, but hiding them is well worth it. Hide them from sight, and congaline your guants and gants to the Venomthrope. You only need 1 in the unit within 6" to get the whole unit a 5+ cover save.
I an ideal codex, they would be bought in 3's like they are now but handed out individually as squad attachments, like sanguinary priests. Pyrovores too. Kind of like squad upgrades. But we didn't get an ideal codex, but that doesn't mean you can't make Venomthropes work for you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 06:05:40
Subject: the Forgotten Monster
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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I see Fexes occasionally, but since their price rise (which overcompensated for their previous undercosted nature) I don't see them all too often. My main Tyranid opponent has since started using his Fexes as Tervigons.
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