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I get this when going to Bartertown

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Let's start again Monday

We are now aware of this, and are taking a look into it. I just became aware of the problem this morning.

I was just about to post the same thing! I guess I have time now to go take in focus pics of few more things that I was going to put up. Godspeed with the coding to get it up and running.

edit: wierd double post.

porkuslime wrote:We are now aware of this, and are taking a look into it. I just became aware of the problem this morning.

I guess I should have posted this last night 10-11pm'ish EST.

Thanks for looking into it. You Admin and Mod guys are great over there. Of course here as well, but I am real new here.

And I come with news..

Our Site Admin sayeth that our host server company upgraded and updated their security software, and in the process, we got messed with. Working on getting it back now.

We will let you guys know when we get back online.

-p

Thanks for keeping us informed. Cheers.

oh thank god, i thought it was only me.

thanks again

studderingdave wrote:oh thank god, i thought it was only me.

thanks again

same here, i was getting a touch worried

Same here blank,i thought i got hacked by somebody on my network or a Virus.

Nope... the problem seems to be soley on the hosting site. Adam is working on it with them.


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Adam reports that he should have it done tonight. We are having php and database issues which is compounding his problems.

-P

Thanks for keeping us informed. I was getting nervous.

Looks like we are going on day 2 and I am now starting to jones.

I use to be a Web/System/Recovery Admin guy it’s could be a lot of pressure, especially when it came time to update and security patches. We tested on pre production systems before going live with any patch. So essentially we had two systems for QA, Dev and Pre Prod. I think even the Dev teams had a few systems so when we would load on Pre production boxes very little errors. That type of system work really well but costs. Rarely a security patch would really whack an OS or mess up security so bad that the quickest way to recovery was full restore with TSM. Then that even several years ago like late 90’s

Anyway my thoughts are with the Admins.

I've been trading on B'town since the mid-90's (and absolutely love the site); but unfortunately, the site going down inexplicably for a few days, about every 6 months or so, is just one of those things that you get used to dealing with...

Actually, I think the site has had an incredibly good track record for up time. Worst I've ever run into is late in the evening it takes a bit of time to cycle to the PM box.

Any word yet? I went to bartertown.com and got the "head to trading forums" link. I was nice and excited and then i went straight to a white screen again.

No Luck last night. Adam reports over 100 errors in the ISP log and is going to attempt another fix tonight.

Sooner than later I hope... (oAFLORD here)

DM

Eldanar wrote:I've been trading on B'town since the mid-90's (and absolutely love the site); but unfortunately, the site going down inexplicably for a few days, about every 6 months or so, is just one of those things that you get used to dealing with...

Shotgun wrote:Actually, I think the site has had an incredibly good track record for up time. Worst I've ever run into is late in the evening it takes a bit of time to cycle to the PM box.

Eldanar:
Don't know what kind of issues you're referring to but, since the phpbb update (3.x??), site downtime is almost nonexistant. That's been years.
Shotgun is correct. There are occasions where your PM inbox can be a real annoyance. I've experienced that myself regularly. It does seem more prevalent in the evenings. I suspect that, too, goes beyond the site itself, as Adam has been unable to pinpoint a reason for it.

Thank you all for your patience.

Eric

I just hope my trade partners don't decide this excuses them from holding up their end of the bargain

Yeah I think the thing that bartertown hosting doesn't seem to get is that there are a lot of trades in limbo right now, and every day makes it worse. DC# in inboxes, lack of access to paypal addresses etc. I understand a couple days, but it's getting to be long and I have a chunk of money hanging in the air. The items should have been here Saturday and they aren't here yet, but I have no recourse since I have no contact information that isn't on bartertown or in my inbox!

Trying to me patient, but getting nervous...

MagickalMemories wrote:

Eldanar wrote:I've been trading on B'town since the mid-90's (and absolutely love the site); but unfortunately, the site going down inexplicably for a few days, about every 6 months or so, is just one of those things that you get used to dealing with...

Shotgun wrote:Actually, I think the site has had an incredibly good track record for up time. Worst I've ever run into is late in the evening it takes a bit of time to cycle to the PM box.

Eldanar:
Don't know what kind of issues you're referring to but, since the phpbb update (3.x??), site downtime is almost nonexistant. That's been years.
Shotgun is correct. There are occasions where your PM inbox can be a real annoyance. I've experienced that myself regularly. It does seem more prevalent in the evenings. I suspect that, too, goes beyond the site itself, as Adam has been unable to pinpoint a reason for it.

Thank you all for your patience.

Eric

It could be years, as I am not on the site on a daily or even weekly basis, usually, any more; but rather only go there when I am trying to pick something up or get rid of it. I've been there for at least two server changes, IIRC, since about 1995/6 or so. It used to be a lot worse than it is now, and I used to trade a lot more then when I was in school over 10+ years ago. Since I have been gainfully employed, I tend to spend more at my FLGS or on ebay; but it is still fun to go find a really good deal on some figs needing a little tlc.

I think most people pretty much expect these types of things to occur with any website, Dakka, Warseer, etc., included

Nightsbane wrote:Yeah I think the thing that bartertown hosting doesn't seem to get is that there are a lot of trades in limbo right now, and every day makes it worse. DC# in inboxes, lack of access to paypal addresses etc. I understand a couple days, but it's getting to be long and I have a chunk of money hanging in the air. The items should have been here Saturday and they aren't here yet, but I have no recourse since I have no contact information that isn't on bartertown or in my inbox!

Trying to me patient, but getting nervous...

In their defense, they provide a completely free service both in maintaining online trade reputations as well as hosting a venue where you can reach those looking to trade/sell/buy. Its only when the service goes down that you realize exactly how much of a value you're getting for nothing (same with dakka). Either way, no one will fault you for not being able to ship out your part of a trade when you can't access the info and the resolution process for paypal as well as bartertown's take on dealing with bad trades isn't affected by a few days of downtime. Sit tight... it'll be up eventually. Either way, I recommend always emailing yourself any address info (both physical and email) as well as delivery confirmation numbers when dealing with a trade so you can follow the status regardless of the status of any one website or device you use.


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Eldanar wrote:
I think most people pretty much expect these types of things to occur with any website, Dakka, Warseer, etc., included

Agreed. Warseer was down for weeks and the timing pretty much coincided with a laptop failure for me where I lost my bookmarks resulting in a double whammy of me simply forgetting about the site in general. I went there for the first time in a while ironically today and the traffic (if you can measure it in news and rumors posts) definitely seems down compared with before. Also, their trading area has gotten significantly more eurocentric (specifically UK). That's not a complaint but simply an observation; they always had alot more international trade posts there compared with B-town and Dakka but it sees like alot more now after the hack attack.

Good info/advice from Warboss.

Razzle wrote:I just hope my trade partners don't decide this excuses them from holding up their end of the bargain

That is doubtful, since they're in the same boat as you.
If they do, then normal BTown rules would apply.

Nightsbane wrote:Yeah I think the thing that bartertown hosting doesn't seem to get is that there are a lot of trades in limbo right now, and every day makes it worse. DC# in inboxes, lack of access to paypal addresses etc. I understand a couple days, but it's getting to be long and I have a chunk of money hanging in the air. The items should have been here Saturday and they aren't here yet, but I have no recourse since I have no contact information that isn't on bartertown or in my inbox!

Trying to me patient, but getting nervous...

By "bartertown hosting," are you referring to us (the Admin and owner), or the people that Adam (the owner) purchases his hosting through? If you're referring to the site Admin and owner, then I really can't add anything to what Warboss has said, except to tell you that we are keenly aware of it and are feeling the pinch just as much as you. Heck, possibly more, since we're the guys everyone goes to then *it* hits the fan. : )
Now, if you're truly talking about the hosting company... then, you're probably right. : )

Adam's plugging away at it during every available minute of his spare time : ) . Rest assured that he's trying to get everything up and running for us all.

Eric

Figures this would happen the same weekend I decided to take the plunge and join Bartertown Plus.

Thanks to Adam for all the hard work getting the site back up, and to you guys keeping us in the loop.

Nightsbane wrote:Yeah I think the thing that bartertown hosting doesn't seem to get is that there are a lot of trades in limbo right now, and every day makes it worse. DC# in inboxes, lack of access to paypal addresses etc. I understand a couple days, but it's getting to be long and I have a chunk of money hanging in the air. The items should have been here Saturday and they aren't here yet, but I have no recourse since I have no contact information that isn't on bartertown or in my inbox!

Trying to me patient, but getting nervous...

It will all work out. Mine showed up as promised, but I have no way of telling the guy that. I'm sure he's sweating on whether or not the model has, but the thing is:

We're ALL in the boat together. Its not like just you and MM and porkslime are stuck without access. We all are. So we just have to hang in there.

extropymine wrote:Figures this would happen the same weekend I decided to take the plunge and join Bartertown Plus.

Thanks to Adam for all the hard work getting the site back up, and to you guys keeping us in the loop.

I returned from my extended vacation, and the first thing I was going to do was take care of your add to BT+ (I got your email). So, trying to get into the site to add you was, actually, my first notice that it was down.

Adam's working on it, everyone. Tonight marks 3 nights in a row he's devoted to the site.

Eric

Hey, best of luck getting it up and running, I've got some trades in limbo...

Heh, I was just about to post a BTR, I just sent it to the mods for approval. I'm missing about $60 worth of minis from a deal.

MagickalMemories wrote:Adam's working on it, everyone. Tonight marks 3 nights in a row he's devoted to the site.

I have my fingers crossed.

Adam has apprised us that no content from the site will be affected by this.. any PM's in Outboxes will stay there until read, and Read PMs will not be deleted.. likewise trade ads are unaffected.