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The Avatar is £60? Is GW feeling alright?

Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.

 
   
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What's our US pricing for this?
   
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Hang on, just double checked the Avatar's size, and its about the size of a Mawloc which £52.50.

Probably about right then.

Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.

 
   
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Damn £35 for the rangers is excessive!

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Avatar is a pretty good price at £60. Comparatively speaking. I mean, it’s still a single plastic model, just considerably less than I was expecting.


tis a dirty dirty trick to lure me into completing my Avatar collection. the original little fellow with the spear, the chunky in its time metal one, the FW one, along with the two epic ones

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 NAVARRO wrote:
Damn £35 for the rangers is excessive!
No different to the Banshees then.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Avatar is a pretty good price at £60. Comparatively speaking. I mean, it’s still a single plastic model, just considerably less than I was expecting.
Comparative to what? The ultra-expensive Greater Daemons? The uber-expensive Great Gargant Giant things?

As has been pointed out, this doesn't appear to be a giant model - more Trygon sized, and more expensive than that - so whilst we can be happy it's not priced alongside Greater Daemons, or even Be'lakor - let's not pretend that this is a good price. What surprises me more is that the price doesn't match these two very expensive and not all that big models.

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I did provide my qualifier in the quoted comment.

Perhaps it’s a form of Stockholm Syndrome, but when a kit I want to add to my army, and looks great, is £30-£40 less than I was expecting in RRP? It’s £30-£40 less than I was expecting in RRP.

Fed up of Scalpers? But still want your Exclusives? Why not join us?

H.B.M.C, 27 July 2022. Suddenly the Chaos Codex doesn't seem so bad.

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Certainly makes getting two to turn one into a broken greyed out statue (ie. dead Avatar) far easier.

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Nah. I’m still just buying the one.

If I hadn’t recently switched to e-cigs (my chest thanks me, even after just a week), I’d just tip out my ashtray where the Avatar fell in each game.

Fed up of Scalpers? But still want your Exclusives? Why not join us?

H.B.M.C, 27 July 2022. Suddenly the Chaos Codex doesn't seem so bad.

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Way more fun to make what I'd call a "War Monument", a reference to a memorable old game of 3rd Ed where we had a War Walker become a "War Stander" once it was immobilised, and then a "War Monument" once it lost its guns.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Way more fun to make what I'd call a "War Monument", a reference to a memorable old game of 3rd Ed where we had a War Walker become a "War Stander" once it was immobilised, and then a "War Monument" once it lost its guns.


The single best shot I’ve ever rolled for in 40K was a Bloodclaw’s bolt pistol against a War Walker in 2nd Ed. I hit. Rolled for location, pilot failed his 2+ inv (I think it was 2+, I should probably proper read those books again) and got all ded. That of course cause the War Walker to topple over….into another War Walker. Which snuffed it and toppled into another. And another. And another. And another.

You know that moment in Saving Private Ryan where Tom Hanks is on the bones of his arse, defiantly firing his pistol at a tank and the tank blows up and he looks at his pistol with a puzzled expression? That, but without the fighter bomber plane thing after.

War Dominoes trumps your anecdotes. Probably.

The moral of the story is don’t pack a dozen or more light walkers down a restricted flank because scatter dice have a sick sense of humour!

Fed up of Scalpers? But still want your Exclusives? Why not join us?

H.B.M.C, 27 July 2022. Suddenly the Chaos Codex doesn't seem so bad.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
War Dominoes trumps your anecdotes. Probably.
We're going off topic, but...

2nd Ed. Space Marines vs Guard.

Basilisks fired 2 shots back in those days. Fired both shots at a single Assault Marine. One hits, one misses (which is what you preferred, as the second shot could scatter onto something nice).

The shot that hits kills the Assault Marine and the 4 other Assault Marines standing around him. Also clips a Land Raider's track. Max damage result on 'Tracks' chart. Land Raider flips over, lands on Tactical Marine with Missile Launcher, killing him.

The shot that missed scattered onto a Land Speeder. Land Speeder goes out of control and slams into a Dreadnought. Dreadnought explodes, sending the other Land Speeder out of control. That Land Speeder slams into the Techmarine, killing him.

Best shot I ever made.

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 Turnip Jedi wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Avatar is a pretty good price at £60. Comparatively speaking. I mean, it’s still a single plastic model, just considerably less than I was expecting.


tis a dirty dirty trick to lure me into completing my Avatar collection. the original little fellow with the spear, the chunky in its time metal one, the FW one, along with the two epic ones

There's four Epic Avatars so you'll still have a way to go after this one.
   
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JWBS wrote:
 Turnip Jedi wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Avatar is a pretty good price at £60. Comparatively speaking. I mean, it’s still a single plastic model, just considerably less than I was expecting.


tis a dirty dirty trick to lure me into completing my Avatar collection. the original little fellow with the spear, the chunky in its time metal one, the FW one, along with the two epic ones

There's four Epic Avatars so you'll still have a way to go after this one.


And 2 variants of the FW one- sword and spear.

Nice thing about the Avatar coming with 3 heads is that you have 2 spare for Calgar or others to hold up as a severed trophy.

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JWBS wrote:
 Turnip Jedi wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Avatar is a pretty good price at £60. Comparatively speaking. I mean, it’s still a single plastic model, just considerably less than I was expecting.


tis a dirty dirty trick to lure me into completing my Avatar collection. the original little fellow with the spear, the chunky in its time metal one, the FW one, along with the two epic ones

There's four Epic Avatars so you'll still have a way to go after this one.


Wait, wut ? I don't know you stop playing a game for 25 years or so....

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/seoyg4/avatar_scale/
   
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So I'm glad the Avatar isn't Greater Daemon priced, but for some reason I seem to have lost my enthusiasm for getting one, nonetheless.

I was super hyped when the pictures and rules leaked. But now that I've had time to digest the Codex, I just don't see myself ever fielding it over a Farseer/Autarch combo.
I was ready to buy it when I bought my Codex, but GW staggered the releases inconveniently (for me)

Maybe once I get my 40k crossover models finished and need something to paint, I'll revisit the Avatar.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Way more fun to make what I'd call a "War Monument", a reference to a memorable old game of 3rd Ed where we had a War Walker become a "War Stander" once it was immobilised, and then a "War Monument" once it lost its guns.




Now all I can picture is the poor pilot with his face pressed up against the cockpit glass.


 H.B.M.C. wrote:

As has been pointed out, this doesn't appear to be a giant model - more Trygon sized, and more expensive than that - so whilst we can be happy it's not priced alongside Greater Daemons, or even Be'lakor - let's not pretend that this is a good price. What surprises me more is that the price doesn't match these two very expensive and not all that big models.


Aside, I don't care if Slaanesh is the god of excess, those models are absurd.

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 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


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"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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 vipoid wrote:
Now all I can picture is the poor pilot with his face pressed up against the cockpit glass.
It was a 2nd Ed Warwalker, so he was just kinda sitting there in the open. Still, better than a 1st Ed Warwalker. Poor guy would've just been left hanging there!

JWBS wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/seoyg4/avatar_scale/
I'm genuinely astonished that they replaced the 1995 one with the 1997 one. I remember when the 1995 one came out - I thought it was a fantastic update. The 2004 one was overly busy, but that's Epic 40k for you, but did not even know about the tiny detail-less 1997 one.


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 Galef wrote:
So I'm glad the Avatar isn't Greater Daemon priced, but for some reason I seem to have lost my enthusiasm for getting one, nonetheless.

I was super hyped when the pictures and rules leaked. But now that I've had time to digest the Codex, I just don't see myself ever fielding it over a Farseer/Autarch combo.
I was ready to buy it when I bought my Codex, but GW staggered the releases inconveniently (for me)

Maybe once I get my 40k crossover models finished and need something to paint, I'll revisit the Avatar.

-


I'm in the same boat for story reasons: my Eldar Crusade is journeying far, far away from their craftworld, so even if I wanted one, the story doesn't really allow me to field it. At some point, the Crusade will likely return to its craftworld, but until then, they're kinda cut off- all of their supply limit increases will be rangers and corsairs until they find a planet with a warp gate they can use to to connect with the craftworld.

   
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 Galef wrote:
So I'm glad the Avatar isn't Greater Daemon priced, but for some reason I seem to have lost my enthusiasm for getting one, nonetheless.

I was super hyped when the pictures and rules leaked. But now that I've had time to digest the Codex, I just don't see myself ever fielding it over a Farseer/Autarch combo.
I was ready to buy it when I bought my Codex, but GW staggered the releases inconveniently (for me)

Maybe once I get my 40k crossover models finished and need something to paint, I'll revisit the Avatar.

-


I think I've gone full circle on this one. New stats were initially very exciting. Then I got the codex, and none of my lists featured an avatar. Now, with a whole bunch of games under my belt, I'm revisiting my lists and writing new lists centered around the avatar. I'm grabbing the avatar right away because the new model is awesome (and that's coming from someone who already owns 2 FW avatars), and because I definitely see a future (yes, got my farseer cap on here) coming up soon where I'll field one. The more I play with the new book, the more I see a place for an avatar as a strong forward assualt piece.
   
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I think the Avatar price is explained by it being one solitary sprue:


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 bullyboy wrote:
What's our US pricing for this?


Convert from pounds to $, and add 20% - should be pretty close. So about $75?

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Shining Spear, white models on white background, brilliant photography and painter communication from GW.

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 Stormonu wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
What's our US pricing for this?


Convert from pounds to $, and add 20% - should be pretty close. So about $75?


Ignore the real exchange rate. Take the price in GBP and multiply it by about 1.6 then round a tad to make it a more even number. $95 or $100 is likely
   
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ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
I think the Avatar price is explained by it being one solitary sprue:
That's a very expensive single sprue.

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Yeah, it‘s just a single large sprue. He isn‘t much taller than the FW Avatar really and the flames aren‘t optional. Check out my review & unboxing:
https://taleofpainters.com/2022/03/review-eldar-aeldari-avatar-of-khaine-plastic-2/

Still a cool model.

 
   
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It can't be that much bigger than the latest Avatar model with that sprue can it? Does anyone have an actual picture of both models side by side or at least a picture of the new one next to something for size comparison?
   
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I received my Nachmund set couple of days ago and have been building the Corsairs. I think they look much better in their 40k equipment than as KT specialists.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
I think the Avatar price is explained by it being one solitary sprue:
That's a very expensive single sprue.


Yup, is he the record price for a sprue of that size? If not what is?

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