Who truly is the most powerful HQ choice in 40K?

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**Commissar41.0**

so what do you guys think? no answer is wrong everyone is right (in their own way)

**Brother SRM**

Aun'Va - making my entire Tau army stubborn? Yippee skippy! My Tau are good at everything now!

It really depends on what qualifies as "best" - While Abaddon can wipe the floor with just about anyone, he doesn't give your entire army master crafted meltas, flamers, and hammers. Mephiston and Draigo are two names I expect to pop up a lot here.

**Snickerdoodle**

Thrakka doesn't suck, and there is a certain farseer that seems to make it into EVERY Eldar list I have played fo 3 years.

**Coolyo294**

I like Lysander. He tends to destroy things with his S10 beatstick.

**Jollydevil**

I always liked wazdakka gutsmeck, though hes probably not the best. Super fast, huge gunz, and big cc weapons.
Plus, he lets you use bikes as troops.
Ooooo boy.

**Iur_tae_mont**

I say Vulkan.

Twin Linked Flamers,Heavy Flamers, Meltas, and Multi-Meltas.

Master-crafted Thunder Hammers. (Prolly something else, but I don't play Space Marines.

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All for less than 200 points (again, no Space Marine Codex)

**Mr. Self Destruct**

Vect hits like a truck in CC with 7 attacks on the charge, WS 8, Shadow Field, Combat Drugs, Preferred Enemy and 3+ wounding on everyone, plus he comes with the Pimp Ravager and his posse. And he lets you seize the initiative on a 4+.

**jdjamesdean@mail.com**

Fateweaver

**Ascalam**

Nightbringer, as long as everyone leaves their sniper rifles and poison home..

How exactly DO you poison a being of pure energy trapped in a living metal body anyway ?

Even if he's not the best he ought to be, as he's the most expensive by far (discounting FW offerings, i assume...)

**GamzaTheChaos**

It would have to be an HQ that changes an army. that makes him much more deadly than just assault power. so Vulcan would have to be on that list. IMO

**xlEternitylx**

Powerful eh? I think in large games, I'd say Calgar, just for "God of War."

Small Games? DE has it, as aforementioned. That, or the Swarmlord. He aint bad, for a bug.

**ReaperX**

Ghazkull Thrakka is pretty powerful

huge boost to him and his army when he calls a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

**the_ferrett**

Old Zogwort. 2+D6 poisoned attacks and the ability to turn ICs into squigs.

**Nuclear_Bomb**

IMO I'd have to say the Swarmlord. He inflicts ID, makes you re-roll sucessful invulnerable saves. Once a turn he can grant Furious Charge, Preffered Enemy, or Acute Senses to a unit within his synapse.
Not to mention you can re-roll your outflank roll, +1 reserve. And he has a 4+ invulnerable save in CC. He can use two shooting psychic power a turn.
With a WS of 9 regualr marines will need 5+ to hit.

**JeneralJoe117**

Lysander. 2+/3+. Strength 10 thunder hammer with plus 1 to damage result table, bolter drill for re-roll to hit with bolters/storm bolters/ bolt pistols. Deep strike, bolster defenses. Nuff said.
Or maybe even Cassius, 125 points and T6 with a 4+ invo? Mental.

**TechMarine1**

Kor'Sarro Khan. He can make your army outflank, can take a bike that can run in the shooting phase, and has a sword that causes ID.

**DX3**

"I am here.. and there.. and everywhere.. to repurpose my tropps to my liking and use three psychic powers a turn in support of Eldar Victory and table tops everywhere!"

- Eldrad

**Locclo**

I would have to go with Vulkan. As nice as some of these other ones are, their benefits disappear when the unit dies - and a smart, savvy opponent will be able to knock it down before it can even think about getting in close combat. With Vulkan, heat weapons are twin-linked in your army, period, even after he's dead. Some of these others are powerful units on their own. Vulkan turns his entire army into a deadlier weapon.

**peebzguy**

Mephiston because he conquered the Black Rage and ripped a huge Orks's heart out of his chest, after he killed 5 other Orks, all in 5 seconds?

**Akroma06**

Gotta go with vect as a 2++ and prefered enemy, and wounding on a 3+ with no armor saves, and rerolling wounds on eldar/DE. Plus the almighty steal initiative on a 4+. If you give him his raider of doom he's really hard to take out plus you got 9 other guys (Incubi as the pimps bodyguards). Don't even get me started on his toy orbs that can heal him. Add all that with he overthrew a society and became its leader for how many years. Plus his mind is compared to Tzeentch give me someone else even in that ballpark!

**DarknessEternal**

There are some good ones mentioned, but Baron Sarthonyx's benefit-to-army to cost ratio is probably higher than anyone else can muster.

**Polonius**

Vulkan for reasons already mentioned.

Thraka: gives orks a reliable Waagh distance, fearless, and hits like a brick in combat. Toss in one unit of nobs for troops, and he's just as important to successful ork armies as vulkan, while being a powerful combat figure himself.

Draigo: changes the comp of his army, absorbs S8 shooting like a champ (3++ & EW), still has grand strategy and psychic communion, and is one of the top tier combat monsters along with Thraka, abby, Calgar, and Lysander

**Jollydevil**

peebzguy wrote:Mephiston because he conquered the Black Rage and ripped a huge Orks's heart out of his chest, after he killed 5 other Orks, all in 5 seconds?

If youre talking about fluff, wazdakka gutsmeck took down a titan.

**Rimmy**

befopre he got nerfed, I would have nominated Brother Captain Stern. all the abilities and power of a GK grand master, half the cost.

takes out greater demons, multi wound charectors, and all he needs to do is wound once and pass a LD10 psychic check. offending model is dead. not dead, REMOVED.

plus strands of fate? able to re-roll a missed die per phase? not turn, phase. ok granted you have to give your opponent a marker to do tha same, but still. thats pretty burly.

**peebzguy**

Jollydevil wrote:
peebzguy wrote:Mephiston because he conquered the Black Rage and ripped a huge Orks's heart out of his chest, after he killed 5 other Orks, all in 5 seconds?
If youre talking about fluff, wazdakka gutsmeck took down a titan.

That's pretty awesome, but did he do it in 5 seconds?

**JamesMclaren123**

If points are not are not an issue i would say draigo- scoring paladins is pretty epic

**Nicholas**

In fluff didn't an Ork HQ kill a void whale with a harpoon I think that's better than killing a titan.

**Jollydevil**

peebzguy wrote:
Jollydevil wrote:
peebzguy wrote:Mephiston because he conquered the Black Rage and ripped a huge Orks's heart out of his chest, after he killed 5 other Orks, all in 5 seconds?
If youre talking about fluff, wazdakka gutsmeck took down a titan.

That's pretty awesome, but did he do it in 5 seconds?

I dunno, it just says in seconds

**peebzguy**

Jollydevil wrote:
peebzguy wrote:
Jollydevil wrote:
peebzguy wrote:Mephiston because he conquered the Black Rage and ripped a huge Orks's heart out of his chest, after he killed 5 other Orks, all in 5 seconds?
If youre talking about fluff, wazdakka gutsmeck took down a titan.

That's pretty awesome, but did he do it in 5 seconds?
I dunno, it just says in seconds

*Sigh* alright I'll give it to ya

**loota boy**

Nicholas wrote:In fluff didn't an Ork HQ kill a void whale with a harpoon I think that's better than killing a titan.

That would be Kaptin Badrukk. He also has a gun whos primary ammunition is cancer!