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Cant belive anyone in here hasn't mentioned Creed.... jk

Buff wise, Vulkan

Calgar best overall but expensive, even though he is a walking tank with re-rolls everywhere and gives his entire army a rule that laughs at Stubborn and Fearless.

Cant say Swarmlord is good... I've seen it killled to many times from ranged weapons, even with Tyrant Guard

DarknessEternal wrote:There are some good ones mentioned, but Baron Sarthonyx's benefit-to-army to cost ratio is probably higher than anyone else can muster.

I think you mean the Duke. Baron's the guy that makes Hellions troops and gives a unit Stealth, all while still not having a power weapon.

lucius the eternal.

loota boy wrote:

Nicholas wrote:In fluff didn't an Ork HQ kill a void whale with a harpoon I think that's better than killing a titan.

That would be Kaptin Badrukk. He also has a gun whos primary ammunition is cancer!

Love that guy guy at my FLGS plays ork pirates they are awesome

bib wrote:lucius the eternal.

No...

I dont mean to hate but he's really not that good.

Oh, heres another good one, Straken for his Furious Charge and Counter Attack bubble

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:

DarknessEternal wrote:There are some good ones mentioned, but Baron Sarthonyx's benefit-to-army to cost ratio is probably higher than anyone else can muster.

I think you mean the Duke. Baron's the guy that makes Hellions troops and gives a unit Stealth, all while still not having a power weapon.

No, I meant the Baron. Go ahead and re-read his rules.

Lord Solar Macharius, no impressive fighting capabilities but he has a 3++ save. plus he can alway choose who goes first whenever it's randomly determined. for the Imperial Guard and thier artillery, that's the most rediculous thing ever. opponent sets up first, you set up all your cannons for the best firing lanes and you don't even need to roll to gain the initiative.

okay, so you can't use him now, but uhh...

Lotet wrote:Lord Solar Macharius, no impressive fighting capabilities but he has a 3++ save. plus he can alway choose who goes first whenever it's randomly determined. for the Imperial Guard and thier artillery, that's the most rediculous thing ever. opponent sets up first, you set up all your cannons for the best firing lanes and you don't even need to roll to gain the initiative.

okay, so you can't use him now, but uhh...

I wonder why? lol

Emperor's Champion with Accept Any Challenge:

Str 6 Power Weapon, 2+/4++, WS 5

Mainly:

Army-Wide Preferred Enemy, even after he's dead. And this applies to dreadnoughts! yay

Vukan He'stan alll the way. Nothing can beat him and 10 assault termies with TH/SS getting re-rolls to hit. Also flamers (guard Infantry/ Nids) and meltas (tanks and MEK). Cant be beat. Hes also a combat monster.

Midnightdeathblade wrote:Vukan He'stan alll the way. Nothing can beat him and 10 assault termies with TH/SS getting re-rolls to hit. Also flamers (guard Infantry/ Nids) and meltas (tanks and MEK). Cant be beat. Hes also a combat monster.

thats gunna cost a dumpload of points. Points that, if you had wazdakka instead, could be used on him and a bunch of nobz, bikes, or boyz, or whatever, who could easily combat those termis and vulkan.

fluff wise Draigo rocks!

That's because Ward was jerking off while writing it...

Black Templar Marshall with Command squad (maxxed) and attached Master of Sanctity. Counts as 1 HQ choice and it's a pretty good deathstar.

Well since were going crazy I'll have to say
Black Templar marshal with terminator armour, 2x LC, Adamantite mantle/ with hit retinue so you can't target him of 9 terminators oh btw there's 2 heavy weapons in that squad plus the sergeant can take warhead so give him a TH&SS, don't for get to add chaplain grimaldus so now you have a dude that never dies and gies you a holy relic with all those termies, oh and the Emperors champion, add a holy orb of anthoch to the marshal and sergent, and Furious charge to the lot of em. Oh btW that's all 1 HQ choice

With that you have army wide leadership 10, and preferred enemy even after the champions death, not to mention they would plast another unit of equal value


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Oh and if we did have to just say a single model Emperors champion plasts Vulcan, my whole army gets preferred enemy, think of that in apocalypse I can take 2 champions bc I'll just say I'm fielding 2 companies (each of which has a champion) then I'll make all BT immune to psychic while I'm at it so just imagine 10000 points Of BT coming at you really fast with there righteous zeal, preferred enemy, and immunity to whatever psychic you throw at the (yep that means my marshal isint turning into chaos spawn EAT it tzeenech)

Cain wrote:Well since were going crazy I'll have to say
Black Templar marshal with terminator armour, 2x LC, Adamantite mantle/ with hit retinue so you can't target him of 9 terminators oh btw there's 2 heavy weapons in that squad plus the sergeant can take warhead so give him a TH&SS, don't for get to add chaplain grimaldus so now you have a dude that never dies and gies you a holy relic with all those termies, oh and the Emperors champion, add a holy orb of anthoch to the marshal and sergent, and Furious charge to the lot of em. Oh btW that's all 1 HQ choice

With that you have army wide leadership 10, and preferred enemy even after the champions death, not to mention they would plast another unit of equal value

No you go Marshal with 2 LC, manle, Hand grenades of antioch, artificer and termi honors, with iron halo attached to Grim with a reclusiam command squad with a relic and sacred standard bearer with furious charge. And give everyone Termi-honors. Add in an apothecary and meltas where they fit and combis where they don't. Add the EC later and slap 'em in a LRC! One HQ slot taken

that named KOS in the daemon codex that GW had to take out cos she was too awesome

or mephiston

Any Hq that costs under 200 points and gives a big boost on your army list ( Bulkan, emperor's champion, Khan etc)
or if you want big powerhouses, you know that top three are Ghaz, Abbadon, Lysander. ....I think

My personal Favorite is Ragnar Blackmane, for fluff, for he is a meat machine, and cause he still helps my army.

Akroma06 wrote:

Cain wrote:Well since were going crazy I'll have to say
Black Templar marshal with terminator armour, 2x LC, Adamantite mantle/ with hit retinue so you can't target him of 9 terminators oh btw there's 2 heavy weapons in that squad plus the sergeant can take warhead so give him a TH&SS, don't for get to add chaplain grimaldus so now you have a dude that never dies and gies you a holy relic with all those termies, oh and the Emperors champion, add a holy orb of anthoch to the marshal and sergent, and Furious charge to the lot of em. Oh btW that's all 1 HQ choice

With that you have army wide leadership 10, and preferred enemy even after the champions death, not to mention they would plast another unit of equal value

No you go Marshal with 2 LC, manle, Hand grenades of antioch, artificer and termi honors, with iron halo attached to Grim with a reclusiam command squad with a relic and sacred standard bearer with furious charge. And give everyone Termi-honors. Add in an apothecary and meltas where they fit and combis where they don't. Add the EC later and slap 'em in a LRC! One HQ slot taken

Yea that works but after giving the command squad terminator honors got to give them all holy orbs, all storm shields all artificer armor and all power weapons, and don't forget to add blessed hull to the land raider that counts as a dedicated transport , because yes BT can take 14 land raiders before breaking force org

always had a soft spot for KHARN

but for 2 turns Ghaz makes a ork army rather nasty, and whilst he isn't stabbing himself dearest Failbaddon can casue some hurt

For points vs utility, The Duke can't be beat.

Gagskull Ugh he just throws a S10 power claw into your plans, and the bonus waaaaghhh charge 6 inches,good bonus to the army

peebzguy wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:

peebzguy wrote:Mephiston because he conquered the Black Rage and ripped a huge Orks's heart out of his chest, after he killed 5 other Orks, all in 5 seconds?

If youre talking about fluff, wazdakka gutsmeck took down a titan.

That's pretty awesome, but did he do it in 5 seconds?

From when he drove off a catwalk in a massive factory and smashed through the void shields (setting him on fire) and into the cockpit where he slaughtered the crew in SECONDS. No....probably 10-25 seconds. But a 6 orks versus a TITAN.

Swarmlord.Hits most things on a 3+,can give himself preferred enemy in round 2 of combat,or furious charge before an assault.I6,ID,reroll opponents invulnerables,4++ in CC,3 Guards to allocate wounds on,Paroxysm to hit evry thing on a 3+,them hitting on 5+,5 wounds,a PSA that lets him regenerate.Synapse 18'',+1 to reserves,reroll outflank.

ChocolateGork wrote:

peebzguy wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:

peebzguy wrote:Mephiston because he conquered the Black Rage and ripped a huge Orks's heart out of his chest, after he killed 5 other Orks, all in 5 seconds?

If youre talking about fluff, wazdakka gutsmeck took down a titan.

That's pretty awesome, but did he do it in 5 seconds?

From when he drove off a catwalk in a massive factory and smashed through the void shields (setting him on fire) and into the cockpit where he slaughtered the crew in SECONDS. No....probably 10-25 seconds. But a 6 orks versus a TITAN.

It was Just Wazdakka, not 6 orks.

Nightbringer. Cant be wounded by weapons under strength 5. Wraith cannons cant 1 shot him, he ignores armor and invol, and one on one he is going to tear up. Also, with strength 10 he cleaves through vehicles and one shots most non EW characters. nothing like seeing your 205 coteaz torn in half by one attack from a necron HQ.

Ghazghkull- force multiplier & beast in cc

Deceiver- no other character can get him into cc and it messes with deployment

Vect- seize on 4+ and beast in cc

Draigo- paladins & beast in cc

the_ferrett wrote:Old Zogwort. 2+D6 poisoned attacks and the ability to turn ICs into squigs.

this plus a 75% chance to count as having a power weapon (a roll on a 1,2,3 on the weirdboy chart gives him that, and he can reroll)

so yeah, he is okay, since he also has a 33% chance to tart a waagh (6 needed, but with reroll)

Eldrad Ulthran for practicallity. He helps your army, Melts brains of enemy characters and HQ's (especially trygons with their puny Ld 7 )

Wazzdakka for fluff. He took down a Warlord class titan single handed whilst also on fire.........nuff said

DX3 wrote:"I am here.. and there.. and everywhere.. to repurpose my tropps to my liking and use three psychic powers a turn in support of Eldar Victory and table tops everywhere!"

- Eldrad

This. Eldrad is all the awesomeness of a farseer cranked up to 11. He gets my vote. Honorable mention to the Emperor's Champion though: around 135 (wrong on purpouse!) points to give your entire army prefered enemy and a decent melee dude!