Orks...Tier 3 Cont'

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**Elessar**

methoderik wrote:
Elessar wrote:

Most of my opponents have caught up, or are playing semi-5th at least. There are a few kids, and several fluff bunnies, but in no way do I tone it down for them, because then they won't learn.

Ah, sorry, I forgot this comment. Fair enough, I'll explain, since it obviously wasn't clear. I don't tone down my list. I said nothing about my playing style.

@Orkish: If I wanted your opinion, I'd ask ...you know how that ends, right? I'm one of the best players I know, whether you like it or not, it's true.

@Aldonis: I sincerely wish I could afford to travel the US and even the UK stomping face and teaching people to play 5th properly. Since I can't I resort to the interwebz.

**methoderik**

Elessar wrote:I said nothing about children. Inexperienced player =/= child.

It's a tournament badly written by Fantasy players, who gave a low comp score to a freaking Nidzilla list.

I've read about 1/3 of the participating lists, including at least half of the top ten.

They were all, barring Marc Parker's, terrible. His was merely mediocre.

If this is what passes for competitive play in your mind, then Orks are the best Codex everz, and Tic Tac Te is a difficult game.

Go suck a lemon.

Also, as for insulting the players who attended, it's not the first time today I've done so, and it won't be the last. They have every right to play the game however they want, but they can't seriously call that competitive. FYI, I've been reading up on it for over a month now - the poor quality wasn't the surprise, just the extent of the crapness.

I really don't care if you get banned or not, because you have little of interest to say - so i haven't even reported your post. Edit it out, and you might not get the thread locked, which probably doesn't matter to you either way I suppose.

Hang on, I didn't even say anything about inexperienced players...If you're referring to comments I made on YTTH, then man up and say so, share with the class.

I understand that with the incredible amount of verbal diarrhea you are spewing out it would be hard to keep track.

**Elessar**

AV14 is the uncounterable threat to Orks...we've done this.

Only a BossClaw, or a DeffDread has a realistic chance, and only then if they can Immob it.

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@Methoderik, no worries, I accept your apology.

**methoderik**

Elessar wrote:
@Aldonis: I sincerely wish I could afford to travel the US and even the UK stomping face and teaching people to play 5th properly. Since I can't I resort to the interwebz.

Wow... lucky us?

**Backfire**

Elessar wrote:I said nothing about children. Inexperienced player =/= child.

It's a tournament badly written by Fantasy players, who gave a low comp score to a freaking Nidzilla list.

I've read about 1/3 of the participating lists, including at least half of the top ten.

They were all, barring Marc Parker's, terrible. His was merely mediocre.

If this is what passes for competitive play in your mind, then Orks are the best Codex everz, and Tic Tac Te is a difficult game.

So presumably, then, you are able to present results from well designed tournament participated by elite players with kick-ass lists, where Orks failed to show up anywhere near the top positions.

'cause if you don't, your argument sorta looks stupid.

**Aldonis**

Elessar wrote:

@Aldonis: I sincerely wish I could afford to travel the US and even the UK stomping face and teaching people to play 5th properly. Since I can't I resort to the interwebz.

Would be fun.....I would imagine that a lot of the Ork players would love to see how they would match up to your lists.

But realize - until you do something like that - it's all just talk. Big fish - small pond.......

**Elessar**

Not really, since, I fully support Frank Fugger's earlier assertion that most players go to Tournaments with no intention of winning the event.

If I ran a tourny, perhaps it wuold meet at least half of your stipulations...sadly, I only get official GW events. They're not poorly run, but not terribly well either. Perhaps the Irish GT will be different, I'll be sure to let you know.

That said, a proper World Championship, where there was no entry fee, and travel etc paid for by someone other than players, would not have many Orks in the Top Ten. Certainly, they wouldn't win.

**Orkish**

Elessar wrote:
@Aldonis: I sincerely wish I could afford to travel the US and even the UK stomping face and teaching people to play 5th properly.

woo lucky us, else all newcomers will be as dumb as you.

**Elessar**

@Aldonis, I imagine, it it were financially viable, it would be incredibly fun...only problem would be that people would then be setting out to prove me wrong, and playing like jerks from the get go. That would ruin any chance of a fun game.

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@Orkish - next post, I report. I'm pretty fed up of you being a dick with nothing to offer the discussion I'm trying to have.

**Aldonis**

Little arrogant there.....but you play Eldar so it's understandable - (as do I btw).

On any given Sunday - anything can happen.....

There are few if any absolutes in the world - and none in 40K.

Good Generals/Players can and will win - regardless of the optimized lists, matchups, etc.

**Frazzled**

Well this has had multiple reports. I think its time to put it to bed lest I have to look at certain posts for disciplinary proceedings.

And remember: