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Dunno, some are saying Finecast but they might very well be plastic.

Going by the poses in the pic, they're either multi-part plastic or 3-piece Finecast (torso, legs, head).

The weapons look to be flush up against the chest, so I'm going with finecast.

Get ready for the 9 Ark MSU necron armies...

Linkdead wrote:Get ready for the 9 Ark MSU necron armies...

Provided it's not only warriors who can take the Ghost Ark. I think it might be, considering how there are warriors in there. In that case, its 6 MSU

Linkdead wrote:Get ready for the 9 Ark MSU necron armies...

Only if the weapons on the Ark transport are as good as splinter cannons on venoms, and then only then if the points costs and armor values/defensive shielding etc are worth it. If you can have a 13/13/12 skimmer until it takes a glance/pen, is that better functionally than a 10/10/10 skimmer with a 5+ invuln? Math Hammer-ers, go!

The triarch praetorians are awesome. The rest are cool-ish but less menacing more space mummy.

tetrisphreak wrote:

Linkdead wrote:Get ready for the 9 Ark MSU necron armies...

Only if the weapons on the Ark transport are as good as splinter cannons on venoms, and then only then if the points costs and armor values/defensive shielding etc are worth it. If you can have a 13/13/12 skimmer until it takes a glance/pen, is that better functionally than a 10/10/10 skimmer with a 5+ invuln? Math Hammer-ers, go!

Is that the real AV of the Ark, or are you just making that up

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote:

Linkdead wrote:Get ready for the 9 Ark MSU necron armies...

Only if the weapons on the Ark transport are as good as splinter cannons on venoms, and then only then if the points costs and armor values/defensive shielding etc are worth it. If you can have a 13/13/12 skimmer until it takes a glance/pen, is that better functionally than a 10/10/10 skimmer with a 5+ invuln? Math Hammer-ers, go!

Is that the real AV of the Ark, or are you just making that up

All based on rumors - base statline is 11/11/10 open topped skimmer with "Quantum Shielding" (probably an upgrade you gotta pay points for)

Quantum shielding - +2 AV on all sides until the vehicle takes its first unsaved glancing or penetrating hit, then subsequent hits are dropped to normal AV. Makes me wonder if the rule will read like shadowfield for DE where you gotta make every throw individually....I hope not.

Anyhow going by those rumors you'll have a 13/13/12 (or maybe 12/12/12, who knows until codex day, right?) until something gets through the shielding.

Kanluwen wrote:Wait, what's actually been confirmed as Finecast outside of the Flayed Ones and the Lord choices?

Immortals are supposed to be Plastic, as are the Praetorians and Lychguard.

I thought the flayed ones were plastic.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Linkdead wrote:Get ready for the 9 Ark MSU necron armies...

Provided it's not only warriors who can take the Ghost Ark. I think it might be, considering how there are warriors in there. In that case, its 6 MSU

6 warrior ghost arks and 3 heavy support doom arks. I guess if an elite choice can take a transport then it will be a 12 ark list. Glue all your troop weapons to the outside of your transport, brilliant.

tetrisphreak wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote:

Linkdead wrote:Get ready for the 9 Ark MSU necron armies...

Only if the weapons on the Ark transport are as good as splinter cannons on venoms, and then only then if the points costs and armor values/defensive shielding etc are worth it. If you can have a 13/13/12 skimmer until it takes a glance/pen, is that better functionally than a 10/10/10 skimmer with a 5+ invuln? Math Hammer-ers, go!

Is that the real AV of the Ark, or are you just making that up

All based on rumors - base statline is 11/11/10 open topped skimmer with "Quantum Shielding" (probably an upgrade you gotta pay points for)

Quantum shielding - +2 AV on all sides until the vehicle takes its first unsaved glancing or penetrating hit, then subsequent hits are dropped to normal AV. Makes me wonder if the rule will read like shadowfield for DE where you gotta make every throw individually....I hope not.

Anyhow going by those rumors you'll have a 13/13/12 (or maybe 12/12/12, who knows until codex day, right?) until something gets through the shielding.

What does it mean by unsaved?
Do the rumors talk about it being always obscured or something?

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote:

Linkdead wrote:Get ready for the 9 Ark MSU necron armies...

Only if the weapons on the Ark transport are as good as splinter cannons on venoms, and then only then if the points costs and armor values/defensive shielding etc are worth it. If you can have a 13/13/12 skimmer until it takes a glance/pen, is that better functionally than a 10/10/10 skimmer with a 5+ invuln? Math Hammer-ers, go!

Is that the real AV of the Ark, or are you just making that up

All based on rumors - base statline is 11/11/10 open topped skimmer with "Quantum Shielding" (probably an upgrade you gotta pay points for)

Quantum shielding - +2 AV on all sides until the vehicle takes its first unsaved glancing or penetrating hit, then subsequent hits are dropped to normal AV. Makes me wonder if the rule will read like shadowfield for DE where you gotta make every throw individually....I hope not.

Anyhow going by those rumors you'll have a 13/13/12 (or maybe 12/12/12, who knows until codex day, right?) until something gets through the shielding.

What does it mean by unsaved?
Do the rumors talk about it being always obscured or something?

No but I'd damn well bet you'd want to keep your skimmers in cover/obscured from enemy anti-tank weapons. I know i would.

tetrisphreak wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote:

Linkdead wrote:Get ready for the 9 Ark MSU necron armies...

Only if the weapons on the Ark transport are as good as splinter cannons on venoms, and then only then if the points costs and armor values/defensive shielding etc are worth it. If you can have a 13/13/12 skimmer until it takes a glance/pen, is that better functionally than a 10/10/10 skimmer with a 5+ invuln? Math Hammer-ers, go!

Is that the real AV of the Ark, or are you just making that up

All based on rumors - base statline is 11/11/10 open topped skimmer with "Quantum Shielding" (probably an upgrade you gotta pay points for)

Quantum shielding - +2 AV on all sides until the vehicle takes its first unsaved glancing or penetrating hit, then subsequent hits are dropped to normal AV. Makes me wonder if the rule will read like shadowfield for DE where you gotta make every throw individually....I hope not.

Anyhow going by those rumors you'll have a 13/13/12 (or maybe 12/12/12, who knows until codex day, right?) until something gets through the shielding.

What does it mean by unsaved?
Do the rumors talk about it being always obscured or something?

No but I'd damn well bet you'd want to keep your skimmers in cover/obscured from enemy anti-tank weapons. I know i would.

Yeah...
but judging by the name "Ghost" Ark it probably has some nifty special rule like that.
Go through terrain maybe?

Wraiths and C'tan can ignore terrain, I don't know why their skimmers couldn't have the same technology.

Hell that might be a good segue into having a reason for transports (instead of teleporting) in the first place - a way to move and attack on the battlefield, ignoring terrain, while harvesting souls. Ii want to read this codex now. Lol.

Wraiths and Ctan currently ignore terrain.

Whether they still do after the rewrite...

It would be an interesting vehicle rule though

Ok prediction time!

Ghost Ark - 90pts

Front 11
Side 11
Rear 10

Type - open-topped, skimmer

Wargear - 10 gauss flayers, phase generator

Capacity - 10 models

Phase generator -
the ghost ark flickers in and out of reality, giving it a spectral appearance. It gracefully passes through walls without a trace, and even the most destructive of blows pass through it.
Allows the vehicle to ignore all types of terrain. May pass through impassable terrain, but cannot end it's move in it. The vehicle also has a 4+ invulnerable save.

Options - may take quantum shielding for +20 points.

This is what I think the rules will end up looking like. And I am most likely wrong

I added some information from Wayland Games to the first post, although I am still uncertain about some things posted there. I believe that Lychguard and Praetorians are in one plastic box. Same with Immortals and Deathmarks. Together with the 2in1 vehicles that would make 4 plastic kits, the usual allowance for a 1st wave. I also think that Flayed Ones are Finecast. Anyway, now we have official prices and short descriptions. Nice tidbit is that the right Overlord is taken from the command barge and not a single finecast model.

Some comments:

1.) I don't believe the talk about an placed leak by GW. I believe the leak happened around the printing in Poland, the payment by BoW and the intentional late printing because of GW fearing leaks. The pics are not good quality, but good enough for WD scans.

2.) I don't have a Necron army but sympathize with the army since 3rd edition. I won't start an army now, but might buy some new stuff just for fun. I am pleased with the abundance of new units and liking most of them. I still fear Wardisms ("You know who made the 'Stupid Carbon Unit' tatoo on Draigo's back? Imhotekh!") in an army with such a delicate background. I have no problem with sophisticated changes like in the Dark Eldar Codex, but please don't mess with the Gods.

3.) The leak comprises everything in the WD, which deals with the first wave. Several rumoured things are missing, like the big walker, the destroyers, the spyders, maybe a flyer. But they are not in the WD and first wave. But if rumours about GW's new release policy are true, we will see the second wave soon. Maybe not soon enough for some small companies to make useful kits and models though

4.) I don't have to like every model, only the models I intend to use (or most of them). If you don't like specific models, there are certainly ways to do other army builds, e.g. if you dislike the transport or the command barge.

5.) Personally I would leave off both pilots from the command barge, but they look okay on the anihilation barge, which I prefer from the looks. I don't like the transport and gunship barge unconverted. But a closed transport with a small teleporter like in this old conversion (and Jes Goodwin's original concept) looks quite good:



6.) I like the new infantry models. And they will look better in my favorite Lorn V painting scheme (main colour tin bitz) that makes the crowns less standing out. Not hating the new Flayed Ones, they blend well with the old models. It is just that I have never seen them painted convincingly and don't understand the concept of metal skeletons with skin parts being undercover among humans, but I am still reading Fall of Damnos.

7.) Necrons always had a proximity to mummies, they live on Tomb worlds no less. And the first Necrons clearly had Egyptian symbols. I have no problem with GW stressing this influence, as paint can make it more subtle than in the presented studio models. BTW I also like the green rods and would be sad if they left. But it seems like all warriors still have them.

So much for now.

I've not seen anyone else mention this but in the BoW images it looks like they have been photographed from the WD from a low angle. For example the image above the vertical lines of the bordering rectangle show some very clear pespective convergence (they aren't parallel).

The effect of this is that the aspect ratio will be somewhat screwed up and the actual models are probably slightly taller and/or thinner than they appear in the images.

Howard A Treesong wrote:How do you know there aren't people in the Monolith?

Crew: None.

Codex: Necrons, page 21.

That's how.


Of course the fluff could be changed, but right now Monoliths don't have crew.

Mad4Minis wrote:Cool looking pics. Saldy (though not unexpected) there appears to be a lot of Finecast going on. Bummer for me, as I have to do all my GW purchasing online...and I refuse to risk Finecast purchases online.

You can always call the GW support line. They've been remarkably willing to send my friends replacement models. Probably because they realize they're peddling cheap resin junk...
Best of luck though

For those who may know I have a question:

Are the Overlords just the new name for Necron Lords? Or do they represent a power level higher than regular lords? Something like a Chapter Master versus a Chapter Captain. Also what's the deal with the Cryptek? Is he like a Librarian, Haemonculus, etc? In other words a support HQ?

Generally speaking what's the deal with HQ's now? I understand that we don't have a lot of info, so if no one has any idea that's cool. Also I apologize if this topic is elaborated on already, but there's quite a lot of posts to sift through.

And better yet - where's the model for the Cryptek? It appears that you can have multiple of these things in your army. I'd hate for it to arrive as a single one-post Failcost miniature? That'd suck to need lots of them yet they are all in one pose.

Well, judging by the name Cryptek he's probably something like a hammy, techpriest/Mek kinda thing.

I figure the Cryptek is a re-imagined Pariah.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I figure the Cryptek is a re-imagined Pariah.

Pariahs I think are replaced by the lycheguard.
Though it would be cool to have something with the pariahs anti-psy abilities. Maybe the Cryptek will have those.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I figure the Cryptek is a re-imagined Pariah.

Seems like that's closer tot he Lycheguard, I mean they are wielding Warscythes, and are an Elite CC unit.

Mm... mass footslogging Necrons will be yummy; with doomsday cannons!

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Did I mention that it might have 72" range?

By all that's holy, why would you WANT to move? 2 of these on either flank would surely cover most of the board and be able to annihilate everything in their paths?! Stormravens and razorwings would surely be their biggest weakness just based on the speed and firepower they carry... I'm expecting a messy battle report in this months wd! Incidentally who do you think they'll be up against? I doubt it'll be sisters, gw would surely want to pimp de or gk again just for a clash of the latest models report...?

I hope those doomsday canons aren't in squadrons or they could get nasty.... I am always waiting to see what could be in a squadron ever since they made vendettas 1-3 per slot...

Kid_Kyoto wrote:I'm not sorry to see the glow rods go. Hopefully the lime green jewel on the monolith is gone as well.

I never was a fan of bitz that have to be added after painting or of mixing media like that.

Davor wrote:I am actually liking the lack of "glow rods". It might have looked great back then, but now it just looks "toyish" and not to be taken seriously.

I like the new look. Just hoping there is some great fluff where the Crons and Tyranids team up.

Couldn't agree more. Those glow rods looked like they were snagged from a Lego kit. It was very gimmicky when it was released and looked silly.

For those that do like the look, it's not hard to find green plastic rods that can be cut to fit the new models.


Overall, I'm loving the new releases. The vehicles add some interesting elements and the new infantry units still fit very well with the current models. They finally added variety to a rather boring army. Still, not an army I'd play, but one I'd sure like to see across the table from me.