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Backfire wrote:

 Alkasyn wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 Alkasyn wrote:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod1870064a

Funny that even a showcase Finecast model has a warped element - check the spear.

That'd be a good call, except for the fact the dude is a plastic kit

Sorry, was looking at the FC troll when I posted this.

Still, a warped spear in a showcase model is not something they should be proud of.

In fact it looks like it's just sculpted that way, rather than normal warpage you'd see in metal or resin, weird.

That's just the raw power of Chaos starting to affect him.

Seriously though, those prices are brutal. I was considering picking up the muta-whatsit to paint for fun, but not at that price! I can't even fathom how much a new WoC army would cost to start from scratch at this point.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Oh and because someone has to say it...



So...

This was a higher priority than plastic battle sisters.

When I first saw the WD shot of it, I thought it didn't look so bad. But the more I look at it, the sillier and sillier it looks. Random junk everywhere. Nipple arms (seriously, what the hell? It wouldn't even be an issue if they didn't look like they were just thrown on there, but they don't even look like they should be part of the model).

One thing I noticed about the price points for this release: For us Canadians, some of the models are actually more expensive than they are in Australia (the above model, for example).

Nice to know that GW is starting to share the love on an international level.

.....Well I'll be damned! $100 CAD for the Slaughterbrute! $96 AUD really is a bargain!

....What the hell is going on with GW? It seems like they've finally utterly lost it. I really cannot wait to see this year's "price adjustment". BRB stocking up on popcorn.

 Ouze wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Just noticed the big guy's name: "Slaughterbrute"

They could only branch out That far from 40k's "Maulerfiend"? Really?

Other possible upcoming monsters:

Killermonster
Murderyheti
Assaultgoliath

Well, consider that idea stolen.

I know it's been quoted a few times, but I just wanted you to know Ouze that you're the reason my wife is asking me what I'm cracking up about

I didn't even notice the images on the right the first time! They got me all over again

 Fafnir wrote:
[Slaughterbrute Image]

When I first saw the WD shot of it, I thought it didn't look so bad. But the more I look at it, the sillier and sillier it looks. Random junk everywhere. Nipple arms (seriously, what the hell? It wouldn't even be an issue if they didn't look like they were just thrown on there, but they don't even look like they should be part of the model).

One thing I noticed about the price points for this release: For us Canadians, some of the models are actually more expensive than they are in Australia (the above model, for example).

Nice to know that GW is starting to share the love on an international level.

Even with dexterous nipples, I still think the Slaughterbrute is a nifty model. When I got to the price, however, I had to laugh out loud.

If it doesn't do well in sales, I wonder what will be blamed: the price or the model.

Belgiums prices;

Slaugtherbrute; 65Eu
Army Book; 39Eu
Dragon Ogres; 45Eu
Chaos Chariot; 35Eu
Fallen ; 40Eu
Lord; 20Eu
Trogg; 50Eu
Vilitch ; 21Eu

Yeah with all those prices raises/down its a bit cheaper over here( while 2 years ago it was the other way around, a US ordered LR with shipping costed 40Eu, the retail cost of a LR at the time was 52Eu, now its 56Eu)

 shingouki wrote:
True,but what is there we can really do? People will say vote with your wallet but i really like a lot of GW stuff.It's really quite annoying when you really can't justify the cost of a lot of these models.

Malifaux. Warmahordes. Infinity.

Or my favorite, Dreamforge.

 Breotan wrote:

 shingouki wrote:
True,but what is there we can really do? People will say vote with your wallet but i really like a lot of GW stuff.It's really quite annoying when you really can't justify the cost of a lot of these models.

Malifaux. Warmahordes. Infinity.

Or my favorite, Dreamforge.

This post made my day: it helped me realize that I could just send all my hobby money Mark's way. I can get awesome minis, feel like I got a bargain, AND support a small but very worthy business.

I'm sure Mark and WGF will thank you for my money, GW!

-C6

 catharsix wrote:


This post made my day: it helped me realize that I could just send all my hobby money Mark's way. I can get awesome minis, feel like I got a bargain, AND support a small but very worthy business.

I'm sure Mark and WGF will thank you for my money, GW!

-C6

I like to imagine that everything we buy from Dreamforge moves us one step closer to this...

Looks pretty cool.

Are there any improvements being made to cavalry?

I love the 'Letters of Blood'.

And *shrugs* I like the new Chaos beasty; both versions - nipple arms and tentacle thingy.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


And *shrugs* I like the new Chaos beasty; both versions - nipple arms and tentacle thingy.

wat

I never expecting anyone to say that, let alone you H.B.M.C.!

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Throgg=$96 AU

Jumpin' Jehovah! Ninety six dollars? Ninety six dollars?

Feth the feth off... that's crazy!!!

Yep.
He's the same price as the Aracknaroc Spider, or the chaosy beasties

Hell, the chaos lord on Manticore is larger & cooler and is still cheaper...
Yes, he isn't a named character or finecast... but even Scyla Anfingrimm is cheaper... he's similar in size (if not larger)....

He's... he's just an Ogre and a pretty piss-poor one at that, and he's made of bubble-riffic FineCost, and probably cost about $1 in materials to produce. feth... his packaging probably cost more to make than the mini itself. AUD$96?

Go on White Knights - tell us that this dumpy Ogre costs that much because our min wage is higher? I dare you.

 RiTides wrote:
Other possible upcoming monsters:

Killermonster
Murderyheti
Assaultgoliath

Reminds me of when this came out. The commend was that you basically just had to take a bunch of random words from a list to make any Imperial Guard Super-Heavy.

So we've got:

Storm
Bane
Blade
Hammer
Sword
Doom
Lord
Shadow

From this we can get such masterful tanks as the fabled Lordbane, Shadowdoom, the Hammersword, the Hammerhammer and the Swordsword!!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
He's... he's just an Ogre and a pretty piss-poor one at that, and he's made of bubble-riffic FineCost, and probably cost about $1 in materials to produce. feth... his packaging probably cost more to make than the mini itself. AUD$96?

Go on White Knights - tell us that this dumpy Ogre costs that much because our min wage is higher? I dare you.

+1

WoC is one of 3 armies I thought I'd start off WHFB with when the time came around for me to get started with it. Now it is definately last on my list.

Looking at the Darklands Kickstarter I think that the khthones monstrous infantry would make good dragon ogres, and Galhwch Lladd Llaw would make a good slaughterbrute.

He is 86mm tall and costs less than 30 pounds delivered.

This big release is really hit and miss with me, there are some new kits which look pretty nice and I would consider picking up and the there are some which are just butt ugly and wouldn't even consider about buying.

First up we have the Chaos Lord...

It is a great looking miniature with an awesome pose. Unfortunatley it does come with the hefty price tag of £15 but being plastic, it is highly convertable so you can create a unique looking Lord. Heck, I might even buy one to convert into another Chaos Space-Marine Lord (I like having different Chaos Lord builds).

Next we have the Chaos Sorcerer...

In my opinion this is a superb looking miniature. I feel that GW have been really been stepping up in terms infintary minis. This mini is again priced at £15 but I can see the value in it. I love the ghoulish-looking mutation coming out of his side and talking to him. This mini could make a sweet Sorcerer for Chaos Space-Marines. The problem with the mini is that it's finecst which is known to be a risky investment due to miscasts.

Throgg...

This is a superb looking sculpt and looks like he could totally dominate the battle-field. What I dislike is that it costs £36 pounds which is way over-priced considering you can get three River Trolls for £28.50.

Forsaken...

I recon this will be a bit of a marmite miniature; some people will really like the look of them and some people will hate them. I personally like the look of them although I'm not keen on the paint scheme for them on the website. They are quite pricey weighing in at £30 but is worth picking up if you are after mutated bits for any Chaos army. What I love about this kit is how the mutations look similar to the alien in the film 'The Thing' [link] I wouldn't be suprised if the sculptors used that film as inspiration.

The Chaos Sorcerer...

This is a nice looking kit. It's full of detail and definitely looks menacing with the Chaos Warrior on the back. I have to say my favourite variant of the two chariots you can make is definitely the Gorebeast chariot due to the fact that the Gorebeast is so detailed that you can even see scars where the beast has been whipped. The price is quite reasonable as well at a price of £25.

Next we have the Dragon Orges

I recon that this is going to be another marmite kit. I personally dislike these minis due to them looking goofy thanks to the stiff poses. The minis have great detail but the poses are not dynamic enough. Also there is quite a hefty price-tag of £35.

Lastly we have the Slaughterbrute / Mutalith Vortex Beast

Let me start off by saying that this mini costs £50 which is a crazy price for monster sized creatures. I hate the look of it; there are way too many things on the miniature which look silly such as arms in the middle of the chest and three tounges. Also I dislike the angled unnatrual look of the muscles. I feel that GW has been doing really poorly the new monstorous creatures; they look goofy with unnatrual, ugly looking angles and lines. I think that this may be due to the push of mving to CAD design software.

Any word on the rules end? I'm curious as to if there's been any major changes to Warriors/Knights aside from Knights having to buy their +1S magic weapons now.


Unfortunately, none of these new kits do much for me, it might be the paintjob, very "comic-book poster" looking. The new Lord and Vilitch sculpts are allright, but I'd have to find a helmeted head for the Lord before I'd ever use him. The Dragon Ogres are allright but not something I'd use in my chaos army. But honestly, I don't think I'm a huge fan of most of the new stuff.


Especially not at what are now unquestionably Forgeworld price levels, there are 40k Terminator Forgeworld character models that are cheaper than than that plastic-sprue Lord

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Go on White Knights - tell us that this dumpy Ogre costs that much because our min wage is higher? I dare you.

<whiteknight>

In my opinion, GW isn't charging enough for it. Look at it in the 3d viewer. The detail on the cloak is rediculously amazing. It's CINEMATIC™ !!!

</whiteknight>

There. Happy?

Bugger me that's a hideously ugly ol' thing!

As for Chaos, I much preferred the pillaging barbarians look to the faction myself but these new models aren't half bad, the Dragon Ogres and Chariot are especially cool as they've a lot of potential for some cool conversions... the prices are completely off-putting however! I've a few friends who are really disappointed, so much so that I don't think they're going to commit even though Chaos warriors are their primary faction, third party models are the order of the day instead.

Quite like the big monsters - but unless they are really cheap on ebay (which is possible) probably not bother - not keen on most of the rest.

The chariot is about the only thing in this release that's anywhere near the realm of pricing sanity. Wow. I actually just wrote that about a $40.00 chariot, didn't I? :/

 Breotan wrote:
The chariot is about the only thing in this release that's anywhere near the realm of pricing sanity. Wow. I actually just wrote that about a $40.00 chariot, didn't I? :/

If raising the price 50% relative to the comparable HE chariot with also 2 builds can be called reasonable

 Dentry wrote:
If it doesn't do well in sales, I wonder what will be blamed: the price or the model.

GW will blame early White Dwarf leaks for ruining the surprise. So in other words it'll be our fault, not theirs.

 Sidstyler wrote:

 Dentry wrote:
If it doesn't do well in sales, I wonder what will be blamed: the price or the model.

GW will blame early White Dwarf leaks for ruining the surprise. So in other words it'll be our fault, not theirs.

Actually, they will blame their redshirts for not selling aggressively enough, fire them, get the "named replacement", fire them after 3 months, get the "named replacement", fire them after 3 months, ...
In a year, they are not called redshirts anymore but leathermasks

And so, the normal "GW IS THE EVULZ DON'T BUY THEIR PRODUCTS PLAY INFINITY INSTEAD OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!" routine plays out.

Seriously you guys. Grow up. It's a game about plastic toy soldiers. If you don't like it, get a new hobby.

Chances are, the prices are going up because the design process is getting more and more complicated and involved as GW puts more and more detail onto their miniatures. More detail=more work for the sculptors/designers=higher prices. Don't bash GW for trying to make better models.

Also, from what I can make out, the Slaughterbrute is enormous, and combined with the aforementioned lengthy design process and the extra parts they had to work in, it ain't going to be cheap.

 Scrub wrote:


Bugger me that's a hideously ugly ol' thing!

This. Damn that thing is vile. Seriously. It is a million times worse than any recent GW kit I've seen.

 Squigsquasher wrote:
And so, the normal "GW IS THE EVULZ DON'T BUY THEIR PRODUCTS PLAY INFINITY INSTEAD OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!" routine plays out.

That's a nice white gleam on your armour there. Shine it recently?

 Squigsquasher wrote:
Seriously you guys. Grow up.

Read your quote above and then read this one again. It makes an amusing contrast.

 Squigsquasher wrote:
It's a game about plastic toy soldiers. If you don't like it, get a new hobby.

What "hobby" would that be?

 Squigsquasher wrote:
Chances are, the prices are going up because the design process is getting more and more complicated and involved as GW puts more and more detail onto their miniatures. More detail=more work for the sculptors/designers=higher prices. Don't bash GW for trying to make better models.

*snigger*

Yeah. I'm sure that's it. That's why the wood-planking costs so damned much these days.

 Squigsquasher wrote:


Chances are, the prices are going up because the design process is getting more and more complicated and involved as GW puts more and more detail onto their miniatures. More detail=more work for the sculptors/designers=higher prices. Don't bash GW for trying to make better models

Not sure if trolling or GW socketpuppet.

£35 is not THAT expensive. Besides, this hobby isn't meant to be cheap. If you can't afford it, then boo-freaking-hoo.