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 ImAGeek wrote:
..oh.

I like the 30k Kharn better.

Go chaos Go.

I sure hope the rules are at least okay-ish this time. The combing daemons and marines at least has me curious. I don't expect them to be game changing or even good, given the last time Chaos got formations. The Daemons ones were very limiting and only moderately useful. While the CSM ones were simply awful. Hopefully, they won't be Black Legion or Crimson Slaughter specific this time. There are other CSM forces in need of love too.

I pickup Kharn cause I like the mini, but I wait on the Campaign book till we here the contents.

What about the other half of the Wulfen campaign? We still don't have that.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What about the other half of the Wulfen campaign? We still don't have that.

I think, hope, that is when the Tzentch stuff comes out.

Don't get me wrong, I like another Khorne/Generic Chaos release as much as the next guy Looking forward to something different though.

I wonder if by chance Fyres of Cyraxus is going to take place in this new timeline too.

Anyways, this seems like a nice opportunity to buy that FW Abaddon and make a Chaos army around him.

Been wanting to dip into CSMs so let's see how this plays out. Excited 40Kers around the shop today.

 Chaos Legionnaire wrote:
Well, it's about time the Black Legion, Crimson Slaughter, and Khorne finally got a supplement....

Oh well. All part of the plan I suppose.

Laughs. Yeah, the two everyone's least favourite Chaos factions.

I'm guessing this first supplement is BL and CS, and the second one is CS with BL. The third one is Khorne, which is were Knights get a dinobot update called "Knight-mare".

 aracersss wrote:
out of 4chan

Well, saw the Traitor's Hate stuff and talked about it to the redshirt. Supposedly it has datasheets for all renegade knight patterns seperatly instead of the single one from the box, i.e. Warden, Crusader and so on. Dedications are in.

Wonder if that means they're completely trashing the paired guns fun you could have with the Renegade datasheet.

more out of scanner

http://forum.spikeybits.com/showthread.php?34131-new-gw-for-summer-2016/page2

http://forum.spikeybits.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7286&d=1472310332

http://forum.spikeybits.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7288&stc=1

http://forum.spikeybits.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7284&stc=1

http://forum.spikeybits.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7287&stc=1

http://forum.spikeybits.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7289&d=1472339101

I changed it to links only

for now

I guess hosting piracy dosnt make you guilty of it? Jeez did he scan the entire contents of the box or what?

jup, wont last for long

A small release as expected

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Spikeybits is down?

Kharn's groin skull is breaking the 4th wall.

 aracersss wrote:

Can't pierce power armour? Check.
Costs more than anything comparable from the main rulebook or whatever SM can take? Check.
Involves lots of random rolling? Check.

Sounds like Chaos.

To be fair there's a lot of garbage witchfires in pretty much every discipline. They're almost all terrible.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 aracersss wrote:

Can't pierce power armour? Check.
Costs more than anything comparable from the main rulebook or whatever SM can take? Check.
Involves lots of random rolling? Check.

Sounds like Chaos.

Most witchfire powers are garbage, this isn't news. But hey, if it fits your narrative...

Caederes wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 aracersss wrote:

Can't pierce power armour? Check.
Costs more than anything comparable from the main rulebook or whatever SM can take? Check.
Involves lots of random rolling? Check.

Sounds like Chaos.

Most witchfire powers are garbage, this isn't news. But hey, if it fits your narrative...

Most garbage witchfires don't cost 2 Warp Charge.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Caederes wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 aracersss wrote:

Can't pierce power armour? Check.
Costs more than anything comparable from the main rulebook or whatever SM can take? Check.
Involves lots of random rolling? Check.

Sounds like Chaos.

Most witchfire powers are garbage, this isn't news. But hey, if it fits your narrative...

Most garbage witchfires don't cost 2 Warp Charge.

Probably because of the potential jumping. Still only worth 1 but I can understand the asinine reasoning their designers might use.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Caederes wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 aracersss wrote:

Can't pierce power armour? Check.
Costs more than anything comparable from the main rulebook or whatever SM can take? Check.
Involves lots of random rolling? Check.

Sounds like Chaos.

Most witchfire powers are garbage, this isn't news. But hey, if it fits your narrative...

Most garbage witchfires don't cost 2 Warp Charge.

Probably because of the potential jumping. Still only worth 1 but I can understand the asinine reasoning their designers might use.

This power would be perfect for a Chaos spoiler army though. Like build an army around maximizing random wound allocation. Run as many MSU cultist units as possible and run them all through difficult terrain every turn too. Then we can all languish in D6 hell together.

Sm have a similar power at 24" and WC1, but otherwise its the same, IIRC.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 aracersss wrote:

Can't pierce power armour? Check.
Costs more than anything comparable from the main rulebook or whatever SM can take? Check.
Involves lots of random rolling? Check.

Sounds like Chaos.

Ironic, considering this is the exact power (and warp charge cost) that was released for space marines in angels of death; fumination, lightning arc. .

I am going to laugh if these new disciplines are literally the Space Marine ones from Angels of Death with new names.

I'll cry if it's that with all the good powers replaced with terrible ones to make 4 terrible disciplines.

EDIT: Looking back at the rumoured names that might actually be the case, with the exception of the rumoured Heretek power.
So maybe a few powers from each discipline will be copy-pastes with a few new powers to add some flavour.

Mchaagen wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 aracersss wrote:

Can't pierce power armour? Check.
Costs more than anything comparable from the main rulebook or whatever SM can take? Check.
Involves lots of random rolling? Check.

Sounds like Chaos.

Ironic, considering this is the exact power (and warp charge cost) that was released for space marines in angels of death; fumination, lightning arc. .

I stand corrected. Lightning Arc is identical all the way down to the Warp Charge cost. And is also awful.


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 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
I'll cry if it's that with all the good powers replaced with terrible ones to make 4 terrible disciplines.

But GW would never do such a thing. Not to Chaos, right? Right...?

Excuse my ignorance, but if I wanted to start a Khorne force led by Kharn in this edition, what codex do I need?

Chaos Space Marines.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Sm have a similar power at 24" and WC1, but otherwise its the same, IIRC.

Apparently your memory is bad, the power is identical to Lightning Arc.

Nice try, though.

Joyboozer wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, but if I wanted to start a Khorne force led by Kharn in this edition, what codex do I need?

Rumours say the expansion include kharn rules for daemonkin so I'd wait and see which works best

Ive also heard there be stuff for cult troops in there. Would be nice. This has the potential to be a real bait and switch if the exact same detachments and whatnot from the BL and CS supplements are in this, and nothing else. I'm hoping for at least one new detachment, or at least additional formations for those two detachments that have cult troops.