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 warboss wrote:
I'd stay that Obi-Wan, while obviously rusty in terms of actual combat, was pretty darn in tune and should have still been using it that way in ANH. YMMV.

When ANH was made Obi-wan was an old guy and Vader, while younger, was half robot, which was supposed to interfere with his connection to the force. Both things have become increasingly absurd in the wake of the prequels and other tie-in material establishing Vader as a superb duelist and the introduction of different dueling styles, but it's where it all started.

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 insaniak wrote:
 warboss wrote:
I'd stay that Obi-Wan, while obviously rusty in terms of actual combat, was pretty darn in tune and should have still been using it that way in ANH. YMMV.

When ANH was made Obi-wan was an old guy and Vader, while younger, was half robot, which was supposed to interfere with his connection to the force. Both things have become increasingly absurd in the wake of the prequels and other tie-in material establishing Vader as a superb duelist and the introduction of different dueling styles, but it's where it all started.


I don't think age reduces your connection to the force otherwise Yoda might as well be part of the Jedi farming corps for the barely force sensitive.

Age explains the obvious phsyical infirmity but not the connection to the force that you mentioned was what determines the ease of lightsaber use. Don't get me wrong as I actually like the retcon but don't think it gels well with ANH specifically for that scene. Of course, Obi was trying to die so that could explain it as he just needed to stay alive long enough to save Luke before becoming one with the force.

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 Togusa wrote:
Voss wrote:
Try looking at it from a different perspective. These shows are all parts of a bigger whole. There will be crossovers, there should be crossovers. Instead of threating them all as separate and compartmentalized, they're melding them showing a living, breathing universe.

The problem is they don't feel like crossovers of a living, breathing setting (unless its all about one neighborhood on the same street). They're comic book crossovers, where's its all about getting the audience to spend money on a comic they otherwise wouldn't buy.

This one in particular would be far more convincing if they'd, say, called in a favor or contacted him a different system. But the only reason Mando's now involved at all is a really contrived chain of events involving him visiting familar faces and ending up in a random spot he was once seen standing before. Rather than going to the Crazy Wookie's Ship Emporium on the Ringworld of Far More Interesting Things and buying a ship and just getting on with his life.
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Or you know, in some way reacting to getting thrown out of his cult, like going on a binge or getting in a fight or... something. Nope, took a plane to go see the untrustworthy mechanic at the back end of space, who immediately proved to be... shock... untrustworthy


How was she untrustworthy? She literally got him a better ship than the one he had before. I get it bro, you don't like the show. That sucks, but you won't convince me to see your way...

You're kidding, right? It isn't even the first time she tried to scam him, but let's see:

He makes it clear he asked for (and was expecting) a replacement for his Razor Crest gunship.
She _got him_ a pile of parts, in the loose shape of a starfighter (and to be honest, until the sheet fully came off, I thought it was Anakin's pod racer). He traded for additional parts to make it work. He assembled it. She, quite frankly, fethed off and largely didn't help.

If you go to a (used car) dealership, and ask for an armored truck, are you going to be happy with vintage mustang in pieces? And an expectation that you'll DYI it? With a punch of scavenged bits that don't fit the original car and may not work? (Not to mention that future maintenance is going to be a bear, because everything is overclocked and no one makes the parts anymore). It isn't vaguely better for him. Where is he storing bounties, gear, supplies? He lived out of his ship. He barely fits in the new one's cockpit (and honestly I suspect that he only reason he 'fit' is CGI). An antique starfighter for blowing up or racing other fighters doesn't help a bounty hunter. No one is going to pay for chunks of meat floating in space, fused to metal and plastic.
Because that's what happened here, regardless of my 'not liking the show.'

So, if I'm not going to convince you, explain why he didn't go to an actual ship dealer on the Ringworld, rather than pay for an interstellar flight (and give up his weapons despite saying he never would... which, typically for this show, was a setup for a scene that didn't pay off at all) and pay for a pile of junk he didn't want and isn't particularly useful to him? What advantage to the story happened here that was superior to Din sorting out his ship troubles in a sensible way off-screen and interacting with the characters of this show in a meaningful fashion? Was it the furry jokes? The name drops of womp rats and Beggar's Canyon?

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The forging of Boba's Tusken Whacking Stick really stands out.

In the art, its a proper-looking forge, with equipment and air of gravity and solemnity that really fits the creation of a ritual weapon. In the show, they just wander over five feet to a ruined wall and table, hack most of the wood away, replace it with metal, and glue in some fins into grooves, rubbing some solder on the outside of the join as if that would keep a weapon together in any way at all. Its a huge difference in what's imagined and what was actually put together for the show.



Thanks! I will start there. I not motivated enough to watch the shows over in their entirety but I'll definitely watch the end credits starting with that episode.

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 warboss wrote:
I don't think age reduces your connection to the force otherwise Yoda might as well be part of the Jedi farming corps for the barely force sensitive.

Age explains the obvious phsyical infirmity but not the connection to the force that you mentioned was what determines the ease of lightsaber use. Don't get me wrong as I actually like the retcon but don't think it gels well with ANH specifically for that scene. Of course, Obi was trying to die so that could explain it as he just needed to stay alive long enough to save Luke before becoming one with the force.

I think you misunderstood. What I was explaining wasn't a retcon, it was Lucas's original* reasoning for going with the two handed sword grip in the original movies. As far as I know, this hasn't been specifically retconned, they just kind of ignored it when they moved towards more dynamic fighting styles as the physical props became capable of handling it.

Obi-wan's age is a problem created by Lucas' prequel timeline, particularly in light of the number of elderly Jedi getting around there who are still quite spry. I'm kind of hoping they'll find a way to address that in the Kenobi series... they sort of brushed up against it in the (now Legends) 'Kenobi' novel, but only in regards to his appearance, not his apparent lack of agility.



*to be fair, by 'original' I mean 'what he explained as his original reasoning when making Ep1'... so as with anything relating to past events when explained by George 'I always intended to make 12...6...9 movies' Lucas, it can be taken with a grain of salt...

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Living in the desert is certainly not a life that will age you slowly.

I don't dwell too much on the flippy stuff. People over and over demand explanations for things in Star Wars like they were pre-planned, but they just weren't. The OT films were based on samurai films with two handed swords. The prequels came out as anime's influence was seeping into the US (TPM came out like 50 DAYS after The Matrix). It's action was trying to capture the more acrobatic style that was popular at the time. That's all there is to it.

I will say, Rebels did a fabulous job with the Maul duel by having Obi take his prequel pose before dropping to his OT stance. It wins the duel and for me that's transition enough.

As for the weight of the Darksaber; per Rebels that's apparently unique to the Darksaber itself and based on the "original vision". It's crystal links to the emotions of its wielder, which causes its energy flow to become unstable when its wielder is.

Anyway, best episode so far, just... for the wrong show.
   
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Voss wrote:
 Togusa wrote:
Voss wrote:
Try looking at it from a different perspective. These shows are all parts of a bigger whole. There will be crossovers, there should be crossovers. Instead of threating them all as separate and compartmentalized, they're melding them showing a living, breathing universe.

The problem is they don't feel like crossovers of a living, breathing setting (unless its all about one neighborhood on the same street). They're comic book crossovers, where's its all about getting the audience to spend money on a comic they otherwise wouldn't buy.

This one in particular would be far more convincing if they'd, say, called in a favor or contacted him a different system. But the only reason Mando's now involved at all is a really contrived chain of events involving him visiting familar faces and ending up in a random spot he was once seen standing before. Rather than going to the Crazy Wookie's Ship Emporium on the Ringworld of Far More Interesting Things and buying a ship and just getting on with his life.
Spoiler:
Or you know, in some way reacting to getting thrown out of his cult, like going on a binge or getting in a fight or... something. Nope, took a plane to go see the untrustworthy mechanic at the back end of space, who immediately proved to be... shock... untrustworthy


How was she untrustworthy? She literally got him a better ship than the one he had before. I get it bro, you don't like the show. That sucks, but you won't convince me to see your way...

You're kidding, right? It isn't even the first time she tried to scam him, but let's see:

He makes it clear he asked for (and was expecting) a replacement for his Razor Crest gunship.
She _got him_ a pile of parts, in the loose shape of a starfighter (and to be honest, until the sheet fully came off, I thought it was Anakin's pod racer). He traded for additional parts to make it work. He assembled it. She, quite frankly, fethed off and largely didn't help.

If you go to a (used car) dealership, and ask for an armored truck, are you going to be happy with vintage mustang in pieces? And an expectation that you'll DYI it? With a punch of scavenged bits that don't fit the original car and may not work? (Not to mention that future maintenance is going to be a bear, because everything is overclocked and no one makes the parts anymore). It isn't vaguely better for him. Where is he storing bounties, gear, supplies? He lived out of his ship. He barely fits in the new one's cockpit (and honestly I suspect that he only reason he 'fit' is CGI). An antique starfighter for blowing up or racing other fighters doesn't help a bounty hunter. No one is going to pay for chunks of meat floating in space, fused to metal and plastic.
Because that's what happened here, regardless of my 'not liking the show.'

So, if I'm not going to convince you, explain why he didn't go to an actual ship dealer on the Ringworld, rather than pay for an interstellar flight (and give up his weapons despite saying he never would... which, typically for this show, was a setup for a scene that didn't pay off at all) and pay for a pile of junk he didn't want and isn't particularly useful to him? What advantage to the story happened here that was superior to Din sorting out his ship troubles in a sensible way off-screen and interacting with the characters of this show in a meaningful fashion? Was it the furry jokes? The name drops of womp rats and Beggar's Canyon?


I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the episode. Might I suggest you pick up a copy of the Star Wars RPG, get your friends together and tell this story you've written here? Sounds like it'd be fun!
   
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 Togusa wrote:

I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the episode. Might I suggest you pick up a copy of the Star Wars RPG, get your friends together and tell this story you've written here? Sounds like it'd be fun!


This is a very funny burn, but it doesn't correlate well to what Voss was saying. He was clearly attempting to address perceived issues with character motivation and believability rather than a general unhappiness with plot structure and suggested alteration. I would recommend saving this one for use later, and circling back around now with more directly applicable material.

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The new ship.

He specifically asked for a new Razor Crest. That’s what Peli Motto said she had for him.

The difference between me wanting a new car, and me wanting a new Ford Fiesta. He wasn’t after a new ship as such, but specifically a new Razor Crest.

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I kindof understand the disconnect that some feel between the art in the credits and the actual vision we see on screen. Most of us can imagine anything, actually bringing it to fruition is an entirely different matter when hampered by time deadlines, budgets and whatever inevitable impracticalities and issues that pop up when on set. Hell, in this hobby how many of us have envisioned amazing conversions and colour schemes for the actual practical result to be quite different? As long as the general spirit of the art is achieved I do not really have a problem with it. My main issue with the credits is that the "dum dums" in the theme remind me of the South Park episode about the Mormons.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The new ship.

He specifically asked for a new Razor Crest. That’s what Peli Motto said she had for him.

The difference between me wanting a new car, and me wanting a new Ford Fiesta. He wasn’t after a new ship as such, but specifically a new Razor Crest.


more specifically, he asked for a small van/ 9 seater type vehicle, specifically a old style one that has less stringent MOT requirements, that would give him room for live or carbon-froze bounties, was told she got him "something as good as" that, and was presented the remains of the antique racing car. even if you like them, its not as practical as the ship its suppose to be replacing.

I'm not against the use of the N-1 as such, i just feel its a poor choice for the character as we know him. Frankly, it would have been better for Fennc, or some other person without a iconic ship.


also, am i right in assuming the following?

Spoiler:
Djnn's gift to Grogu is going to be Baskar chainmail. this might open up options for grogu to survive the destruction of Lukes Jedi academy in the future and go back into hiding to be part of some post rise of skywalker shenanigans.

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 insaniak wrote:
The new ship is cool, although I'm wondering where he's going to carry his bounties.


He seems to have enough room to install a fridge. Yep, he's going to be grinding that kind of bounty until he has the credits to buy a space camper.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
I kindof understand the disconnect that some feel between the art in the credits and the actual vision we see on screen. Most of us can imagine anything, actually bringing it to fruition is an entirely different matter when hampered by time deadlines, budgets and whatever inevitable impracticalities and issues that pop up when on set. Hell, in this hobby how many of us have envisioned amazing conversions and colour schemes for the actual practical result to be quite different? As long as the general spirit of the art is achieved I do not really have a problem with it. My main issue with the credits is that the "dum dums" in the theme remind me of the South Park episode about the Mormons.


I haven't been exposed to South Park in forever, so I'm obviously not getting that impression myself, but I thought the music was a pretty competent take on spaghetti western music (in space!). It's the kind of thing you'd get in the 70s.

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Hell just have to only bring back bounty heads for awhile. He can stick them in the little glass dome.

 
   
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Also worth noting he’s not yet agreed to buy it. Rather the agreement was he’d wait to decide until the restoration was complete.

We’ve seen him have a test drive. That’s about it.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Also worth noting he’s not yet agreed to buy it. Rather the agreement was he’d wait to decide until the restoration was complete.

We’ve seen him have a test drive. That’s about it.


He'll certainly buy it if only because he needs an untraceable ship to move around. At the moment, he's stuck taking transport ships and he really isn't the type of crowd to use those. Plus, we know he is searching for Grogu and, potentially, for a way to get back to Mandalore and gain access to collapsed underground mines for his purification ritual. He certainly is going to keep the ship he spent half the episode building. Sure, he might replace it again along the way, but it seems clear that the Mandalorian doesn't want to return to a life of bounty hunting on a consistent basis. He's got a lot of money already and other things on his mind hence why he offers to help Boba for free.
   
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He’s Definitely keeping it. There’s no way they spend that much time on it, install a Grogu sized dome, and then ditch it.

 
   
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Caught up with episodes 3, 4 and 5 yesterday and my initial impression was confirmed. Boba Fett keeps featuring these weird elements that seem weirdly out of place in Star Wars. First the power rangers ninja assassins, now this teenage cyberpunk biker gang. I was hoping for evil wookie to rid us of them asap, but alas no such luck. He'd rather kill a random trandoshan in a PTSD flashback than people who are actually trying to shoot him.

Then episode 5 hit out of nowhere and made up for most of that jank.
The N1 starfighter was a welcome throwback (and a reminder for me to finally pick it up for X-Wing). Mando's content just works better for some reason, as they seem to strike a better balance between seriousness and silly elements for his content. Another pleasant surprise was the directing of Bryce Dallas Howard, whom I had made a mental note for in one of the better Mando episodes. She's shaping up to be very promising from what I've seen. Gotta check the full extent of her involvement later.

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Mando still works better than Boba for me.
   
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He's only a bounty hunter to support his cult, and since he's taking a vacation from that, realistically he doesn't need a different ship at the moment. He ordered another Razor Crest before his cultist pals made entirely foreseeable cultist decisions. His situation has changed since then.

Plus, as the (publicly known) wielder of the Darksaber he has a pretty big target on his back and a nimble star fighter is a better option than a transport.

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 insaniak wrote:

What I was explaining wasn't a retcon, it was Lucas's original* reasoning for going with the two handed sword grip in the original movies. As far as I know, this hasn't been specifically retconned, they just kind of ignored it when they moved towards more dynamic fighting styles as the physical props became capable of handling it.


Fair enough. I was fine with simply assuming that his 1950s Japanese samurai film influences extended to how the held their swords as well as the lack of frenetic action and swashbuckling flourishes in favor of short but sweet deliberate but swift strikes and the two handed poses that go with them. I didn't need any more of an explicit explanation personally beyond the different styles of saber fighting in the EU.



*to be fair, by 'original' I mean 'what he explained as his original reasoning when making Ep1'... so as with anything relating to past events when explained by George 'I always intended to make 12...6...9 movies' Lucas, it can be taken with a grain of salt...


Yeah, I sometimes think he retcons his own recollections more than everything else combined in order to justify whatever is floating on the top of his mind like driftwood at the moment when he doesn't need to frankly.

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yhea, this episode felt like filler, almost. I agree that the almost-ringworld was cool (given the apparent size in relation to the commercial starships, it cant be around an actual star, its MUCH to small. some sort of artificial star, maybe. the whole thing is rather intresting, its the only megastructure we've seen beyond the two death stars.


while its cool to catch up with mando, I dont think its exactly a good sign for the show that they cant even fill a whole 8 episode season with the TITLE CHARACTER and have to fall back on the parent show to fix the episode count. the choice of spaceship is pure nostalgia fuel, it could have been anything. frankly a classic Y wing would have made more sense, and likely been more practical than his current ride for bounty hunting.

the return of the space cop is....intresting? it implies a much greater new republic presence on Tatooine than previously implied, if x wings in system are in a position to do routine traffic stops. which raises the question of why they arent doing anything about the obvious problems on the planet. it works better when the place was just another distant colony world not worth worrying about, forgotton by the governing polity.


It's a bit odd. The New Republic currently have some very big fish still to fry in terms of the Imperial Remnant and setting up an actual government. Endor was only 5 years ago. But...

... Tatooine, for all that he was keen to get away, is where Luke "Now in charge of setting up the Jedi and and Republic War Hero" grew up. His sister is a Very Very Important Person, presumably in whatever senate the NR is setting up. They've got family ties to the place. The New Republic may not actually, technically, be in charge of Tatooine. It may not have any form of centralised planetary government. But you can be damn sure they're going to send a couple of x-wings by every few days to keep at least an eye on things.

Which is also fairly sensible - for all that it's a backwater, stuff HAPPENS on Tatoonine. We put it down to lack of scriptwriter imagination. People in the galaxy must just wonder why every damn thing happens there and it's worth keeping tabs on it.

Even if Boba does set up a Crime Empire - the New Republic may be knocking on the door rather sooner than he would be comfortable with. And he doesn't have the backing of all of Hutt space.
   
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I think his new ship will be great... escort fighter for when he gets a gunship he can live nomadically in and ply his trade from. Plus I bet they are pricier to maintain, just like any other fighter vs plane in existence.

And yes, I thought pod racer too with a sinking heart for some time.
   
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xerxeskingofking wrote:
yhea, this episode felt like filler, almost. I agree that the almost-ringworld was cool (given the apparent size in relation to the commercial starships, it cant be around an actual star, its MUCH to small. some sort of artificial star, maybe. the whole thing is rather intresting, its the only megastructure we've seen beyond the two death stars.


while its cool to catch up with mando, I dont think its exactly a good sign for the show that they cant even fill a whole 8 episode season with the TITLE CHARACTER and have to fall back on the parent show to fix the episode count. the choice of spaceship is pure nostalgia fuel, it could have been anything. frankly a classic Y wing would have made more sense, and likely been more practical than his current ride for bounty hunting.

the return of the space cop is....intresting? it implies a much greater new republic presence on Tatooine than previously implied, if x wings in system are in a position to do routine traffic stops. which raises the question of why they arent doing anything about the obvious problems on the planet. it works better when the place was just another distant colony world not worth worrying about, forgotton by the governing polity.


It's a bit odd. The New Republic currently have some very big fish still to fry in terms of the Imperial Remnant and setting up an actual government. Endor was only 5 years ago. But...

... Tatooine, for all that he was keen to get away, is where Luke "Now in charge of setting up the Jedi and and Republic War Hero" grew up. His sister is a Very Very Important Person, presumably in whatever senate the NR is setting up. They've got family ties to the place. The New Republic may not actually, technically, be in charge of Tatooine. It may not have any form of centralised planetary government. But you can be damn sure they're going to send a couple of x-wings by every few days to keep at least an eye on things.

Which is also fairly sensible - for all that it's a backwater, stuff HAPPENS on Tatoonine. We put it down to lack of scriptwriter imagination. People in the galaxy must just wonder why every damn thing happens there and it's worth keeping tabs on it.

Even if Boba does set up a Crime Empire - the New Republic may be knocking on the door rather sooner than he would be comfortable with. And he doesn't have the backing of all of Hutt space.


Maybe that's (at least in part) the reason why Boba wants to run a "clean" business - he doesn't make waves, he doesn't break any major laws, and he can keep the whole thing under the radar with a few bribes here and there. If the New Republic is truly looking after Tatooine, he's more in the territory of dodgy businessman/conglomerate than crime lord, just legitimate enough for the authorities not to bother him.

Also I'm getting the impression the New Republic may have learned from the Empire and the way the Outer Rim provided shelter to the rebels, and don't want the Imperial Remnant to benefit the same way. So they at least have a monitoring presence even if their ability or willingness to actually police that space is limited.

Republic presence in the skies might also serve as a handwave for why the Pykes transport spice in ground based transports. There's still a couple of elements missing, but it's not a bad start for an explanation.

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 BertBert wrote:
Mando's content just works better for some reason


He's an active character. Even when he's somewhat directionless, he's got a task to complete (bring in the bounty) and something he wants to accomplish (get a means of travel to bring his kid a present). These minor goals push him into encountering the real story in organic ways.

Boba is remarkably passive, even for a passive character. We saw him accomplish his goals in the post credit scene of a previous show after which he planned to sit in the chair and be in charge. It requires the plot come to him and since they seem to want to write him as the underdog, creates this sense that he doesn't really have any idea what he's doing. A passive protagonist can work if they're written as more of the mastermind archetype, so that you get the satisfaction of watching their plans unfold in spite of attempts to stop them. Boba is just oddly written as more of hero archetype, anti-hero at best, and it doesn't work quite as well in the passive role without a significant goal to follow.
   
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 Geifer wrote:
Plus, as the (publicly known) wielder of the Darksaber he has a pretty big target on his back and a nimble star fighter is a better option than a transport.


I hope the star fighter is destroyed or sold. I feel like he's going to be given Boba Fett's ship once he's done adding some muscle to Boba's gang war. That's a ship fit for a bounty hunter and bounty hunting isn't Boba's gig anymore. Also, the tiny ship eliminates any sort of on board shenanigans or allowing multitudes of supporting cast to ride together.

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The Grogu-pod implies otherwise, but timeline-wise, how close are we to Ben's massacre? It's entirely possible that we next see Mando in the finale, returning with Grogu in tow before swapping (and renaming) Boba's ship. After which I suspect we'll see a lot of the "Look at Me" meme with "I am Boba Fett now".

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Narrative mechanics wise it would make more sense for him to bag something with a docking bay, or like the Ghost from Rebels, with the ability to keep the fighter with him. Keeps more options open for story telling and/or action sequences.

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 LunarSol wrote:
The Grogu-pod implies otherwise, but timeline-wise, how close are we to Ben's massacre?

Not at all? I assume he was at least mid-teens before he went on a murder spree, and we don't even know if he's born yet or not.
Five years out from Endor makes the latter possible, but not much else.

OK, wookiepedia has naturally mapped all this out because of course it did.

Ben was born 5 ABY (after battle of Yavin) (Battle of Endor was 4 ABY, so Han and Leia moved things right along)
Din & Boba are running around in 9 ABY
Ben's massacre is 28 ABY

So Grogu has about 19 years of time to do training and... whatever, including conveniently not being there at the time.

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Last we saw of Mando, he was the de facto owner of an Imperial light cruiser with a hangar (only slightly crashed into) and a pile of seriously advanced droid parts (some crush damage and lightsabre cuts). Not to mention a captured war criminal.

While I'm sure the three who are still employed by Disney are no more capable of running a capital ship than I would be, there may be far more background to fill in the gaps next season.
   
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 Momotaro wrote:
Last we saw of Mando, he was the de facto owner of an Imperial light cruiser with a hangar (only slightly crashed into) and a pile of seriously advanced droid parts (some crush damage and lightsabre cuts). Not to mention a captured war criminal.

While I'm sure the three who are still employed by Disney are no more capable of running a capital ship than I would be, there may be far more background to fill in the gaps next season.

I was under the impression that Bo-Katan and company were taking the ship for... whatever their plans were.
And the war criminal was explicitly shipped off to the New Republic (according to this episode).

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