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Yeah, Bossk and Fett have a fair bit of history, so it wouldn't be surprising for him to show up.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
You mean the one that worked with Boba in the past?

You mean the officially unofficial erased EU past? Or are we doing a 'if you don't know, you're not a True Fan' test?
Because it would be faster to just explain what you're referencing.

In the clone wars episode, Boba Fett gathered a group of bounty hunters to kill Mace Windu, all friends of Jango. and Bossk was a part of it.

Well, I watched the first one. Unimpressed. I liked all the movies (Rogue One the most), but this and the Mando seems a little light on plot or something. Mando kinda went nowhere like watching anime and i just was kind of thankful the first episode of BoBF ended. Not sure if i will continue watching... Which makes me think Im old and out of touch. Is it well received in this circle? Does it get better?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
In the clone wars episode, Boba Fett gathered a group of bounty hunters to kill Mace Windu, all friends of Jango. and Bossk was a part of it.

They're also teamed up in another two episodes (the train job and prison stint).

Chapter 5

Quick, the audience is losing interest, wave something shiny in front of them!

Yes. Because clearly they cobbled together an entire episode within a week.

I dunno man, they have like magic sets and stuff and who knows What they’re capable of anymore! Also I don’t really mean it literally but he IS quite shiny…

More seriously it’s weird because the ending implies we’re getting more of it next episode? Like he didn’t commit to helping until he finished his other business, which seems odd scheduling wise.

Star Wars Ringworld. Oh yes.

We now interrupt your scheduled episode of 'The Book of Boba Fett' to bring you a brand new episode of 'The Mandalorian'.

We do hope that spending the next 45m with your favourite Mando will give you time to forget about the Mos Espa Vespas!

Lore Question on this episode. Spoilered.



Please do the courtesy of spoiler tagging response

 doktor_g wrote:
Well, I watched the first one. Unimpressed. I liked all the movies (Rogue One the most), but this and the Mando seems a little light on plot or something. Mando kinda went nowhere like watching anime and i just was kind of thankful the first episode of BoBF ended. Not sure if i will continue watching... Which makes me think Im old and out of touch. Is it well received in this circle? Does it get better?

Whilst I liked Mando I think the anime comment is fair, a lot of it could have fitted into the 20-25mins run time of Clone Wars or Rebels and been way cheaper as a cartoon, only saw the first episode of Boba before my sub ran out and ditto with that and not re-upping till a binge worthy backlog has built up (this drip feed madness is mighty engrumping)

And now for something completely different...
ridiculous cult angst!
and... starfighter maintenance.
With a side of Jawa dating
And a long, long list of Words You Might 'Member.

"Hey everyone, its Mando!" Droids walk away. Yeah... that was my reaction too. Can we go back to the ringworld and that intriguing array of alien criminals? Because whatever that was looked like a _much_ more interesting story.

So I guess the reason to watch the Book of Boba Fett is because its the prequel to Season 3 of the Mandalorian. Or did they cancel that and decide, hey, we mistakenly ordered a 7 episode series that's about 4 episodes too long, lets just tie up some stray plotlines here?

It's odd but my favorite episode of Boba Fett is the filler setup one with almost no action that he doesn't even show up in. I enjoyed almost all of this one other than the Xwing cops scene.

 warboss wrote:
It's odd but my favorite episode of Boba Fett is the filler setup one with almost no action that he doesn't even show up in. I enjoyed almost all of this one other than the Xwing cops scene.

That's there for the future team-up special* when Mando, Fennec, Asokha and Bo-Katan team up with the New Republic to track down the escaped Moff Gideon after everybody gets their spin-off shows so they can set up the next seasons of the various shows.
It'll be super important that Bob the Aging Space Cop speaks up for him, two weeks before retirement and yadda yadda.


*is it too cynical to expect that team up somehow gets shoe-horned into the run of Obi-wan? Some sort of future vision so he can set up a macguffin for his padawan's padawan?

yhea, this episode felt like filler, almost. I agree that the almost-ringworld was cool (given the apparent size in relation to the commercial starships, it cant be around an actual star, its MUCH to small. some sort of artificial star, maybe. the whole thing is rather intresting, its the only megastructure we've seen beyond the two death stars.


while its cool to catch up with mando, I dont think its exactly a good sign for the show that they cant even fill a whole 8 episode season with the TITLE CHARACTER and have to fall back on the parent show to fix the episode count. the choice of spaceship is pure nostalgia fuel, it could have been anything. frankly a classic Y wing would have made more sense, and likely been more practical than his current ride for bounty hunting.

the return of the space cop is....intresting? it implies a much greater new republic presence on Tatooine than previously implied, if x wings in system are in a position to do routine traffic stops. which raises the question of why they arent doing anything about the obvious problems on the planet. it works better when the place was just another distant colony world not worth worrying about, forgotton by the governing polity.



in regards to the spoiler-ed question: no idea, speculation to follow

Loved it personally. Great to see a different (albeit not original, but what is now?) location in the Star Wars universe.

Finally Boba show gets good by… becoming a different show.

It’s a bold move cotton.


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ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Loved it personally. Great to see a different (albeit not original, but what is now?) location in the Star Wars universe.

Spoiler:

And the Naboo Fighter...any suggestions that it was Anakin's? I forget what happened to his ship.

Gods probably. In a galaxy of trillions Lucas film likes to have everyone one two degrees of separation. Wouldn’t surprise me if the stormtrooper Luke mugged to get his armour in Star Wars was his old golf buddy.


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Voss wrote:
I love the Ralph McQuarrie-like storyboard artwork at the end of each episode too.

Yeah, that's pretty cool and I liked those in the Mandalorian as well.

What's not so cool is when you see that the artist gave the scene and the questions that might arise from it some decent thought and it wasn't carried over to the actual scene. Not great seeing they had the right idea but didn't go with it.
yeah, the art for the scenes is legitimately great, consistently much better than what they filmed.

It actively undermines the poor episodes by showing a kind of ‘here’s what you could have won’ sequence.

To those who have so far solely pissed and moaned.

You’re continuing to watch this show……..why?

Don’t get me wrong. I’m easily pleased and proud of it. Yet there are some shows others enjoy that I don’t.

But. The sort of but Sir Mixalot is terribly fond of but?

I just feel no need to watch those shows, let alone tell others that I’m not particularly enjoying them.

And when pressed, I do my best to keep my distaste sharp and succinct, that those who do enjoy said show don’t feel like there’s some bloke on the internet mad about it.

Voss wrote:

yeah, the art for the scenes is legitimately great, consistently much better than what they filmed.

All of them or any in particular? The show has been so meh overall that I haven't watched any of them unlike with Mando s1/2. As soon as the director credits start rolling, I back out. I might go back and see how different they are.

Well, with all of the other fodder on streaming, I think I will wait for BoBF to finish, then possibly binge it, as waiting for each week is just not working for me now, given the lackluster plot and characters.

Witcher is shaping up nicely and is what I am watching now, then will probably move to Peacemaker.

However, I am very glad others are enjoying it - maybe I just need a better education on the backstory and the SW universe to better appreciate the nuances.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Lore Question on this episode. Spoilered.

Spoiler:

So the whole “it gets heavier” and “you’re fighting against it” thing?

The heck is that about? I’m guessing it’s Old Republic/old EU Lore, as I’ve not seen anyone else query it yet?

Please do the courtesy of spoiler tagging response

So it's been a while but...



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I know that folks seem to not be liking it, but I'm having a blast with both of these shows. They're taking the time to explain things, look at what has happened, not just what is happening. Getting to see Din was a big surprise, and I love that they're intertwining the shows together, making this feel like a consistent universe.

Instead of BoBF being it's own thing, and then Mandalorian being it's own thing, I feel like they're moving parts in a single story. It really goes to show how Dave and John think big, not just reusing tropes like the new movie trilogy did. I'm really excited to see how Ashoka might fit into this and I have a feeling we will see a lot of crossover.

I really wish the new star trek shows were doing this instead of the mess that they're trying to cobble together.

 warboss wrote:

Voss wrote:

yeah, the art for the scenes is legitimately great, consistently much better than what they filmed.

All of them or any in particular? The show has been so meh overall that I haven't watched any of them unlike with Mando s1/2. As soon as the director credits start rolling, I back out. I might go back and see how different they are.

The forging of Boba's Tusken Whacking Stick really stands out.

In the art, its a proper-looking forge, with equipment and air of gravity and solemnity that really fits the creation of a ritual weapon. In the show, they just wander over five feet to a ruined wall and table, hack most of the wood away, replace it with metal, and glue in some fins into grooves, rubbing some solder on the outside of the join as if that would keep a weapon together in any way at all. Its a huge difference in what's imagined and what was actually put together for the show.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:To those who have so far solely pissed and moaned.

You’re continuing to watch this show……..why?

Don’t get me wrong. I’m easily pleased and proud of it. Yet there are some shows others enjoy that I don’t.

But. The sort of but Sir Mixalot is terribly fond of but?

I just feel no need to watch those shows, let alone tell others that I’m not particularly enjoying them.

And when pressed, I do my best to keep my distaste sharp and succinct, that those who do enjoy said show don’t feel like there’s some bloke on the internet mad about it.

To think that people discuss things on a discussion forum! The shock!
Here's the thing: its not about you. How you feel about 'some bloke on the internet not liking it' (or, indeed, liking it) is completely irrelevant to any discussion going on. I mean, nothing personal (because there's literally nothing personal about it), but no needs worry about how other readers feel about a discussion, any more than people in a comic shop worry about how the soccer mom with a 10 year old at the cash register feels about folks gabbing about the latest issue of Batman. As long as its publicly appropriate and rules-abiding... whatever discussion happens, happens because people are interested in discussing it. Criticism isn't something to be hidden and repressed as if its something shameful or wretched, any more than positivity. (Though- the suffocating kind of positive emotions only feels oh so much more oppressive. Like a plea to only be fake and hide every emotion, because of whatever flavor of social repression).

The failures of these shows leave a lot to talk about (actually probably more than they would if they were actually good, and definitely more than if they were merely passable- that'd be a definite shrug and move on moment)
Consider this episode, where the camera wanders through a dozen places and stories far more interesting than the one actually being told, and the end of the most important relationships of a character's entire life are met with the same dispassion and disinterest (or inability to emote) as extended, repeated, tedious jokes about furries. But hey, he ends up with a ship that's completely impractical for his career and lifestyle, but it goes zoom. That's... a fantastically intriguing waste of 50 minutes of screen time.

Why would anyone who witnessed it NOT want to talk about it with other people?

xerxeskingofking wrote:
yhea, this episode felt like filler, almost. I agree that the almost-ringworld was cool (given the apparent size in relation to the commercial starships, it cant be around an actual star, its MUCH to small. some sort of artificial star, maybe. the whole thing is rather intresting, its the only megastructure we've seen beyond the two death stars.


while its cool to catch up with mando, I dont think its exactly a good sign for the show that they cant even fill a whole 8 episode season with the TITLE CHARACTER and have to fall back on the parent show to fix the episode count. the choice of spaceship is pure nostalgia fuel, it could have been anything. frankly a classic Y wing would have made more sense, and likely been more practical than his current ride for bounty hunting.

the return of the space cop is....intresting? it implies a much greater new republic presence on Tatooine than previously implied, if x wings in system are in a position to do routine traffic stops. which raises the question of why they arent doing anything about the obvious problems on the planet. it works better when the place was just another distant colony world not worth worrying about, forgotton by the governing polity.



in regards to the spoiler-ed question: no idea, speculation to follow

Spoiler:

im guessing the core answer is "force shenanigans", but the weapon is explicitly a lightsaber made by a Mandalorian, so maybe its pesudo-empthic? the exact words of the Armouer was that "he was fighting the weapon, not his opponent" and that he wasnt focused. I think this is building to either Djinn having to accept the whole "crown jewel and symbol of the leader of the Mandalorians " aspect of the weapon, or resolve his attachment towards Grogu and emotionally "let go" of him as well as physically.

Try looking at it from a different perspective. These shows are all parts of a bigger whole. There will be crossovers, there should be crossovers. Instead of threating them all as separate and compartmentalized, they're melding them showing a living, breathing universe.

As for the spoiler you posted, I'm fairly agreeing with you, though I want to add a third option. What Bo-Katan said. He's in a cult, and that cult isn't good for the future of Mandalore or its people. It's not just the Visla idea of how the culture should be. under Satine and her ancestors leadership, Mandalore knew 1000 years of peace. That could be a reality again.


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Voss wrote:

The failures of these shows leave a lot to talk about (actually probably more than they would if they were actually good, and definitely more than if they were merely passable- that'd be a definite shrug and move on moment)
Consider this episode, where the camera wanders through a dozen places and stories far more interesting than the one actually being told, and the end of the most important relationships of a character's entire life are met with the same dispassion and disinterest (or inability to emote) as extended, repeated, tedious jokes about furries. But hey, he ends up with a ship that's completely impractical for his career and lifestyle, but it goes zoom. That's... a fantastically intriguing waste of 50 minutes of screen time.

Why would anyone who witnessed it NOT want to talk about it with other people?

What he's getting at is that you don't like the show, right? Well I love it and I think it's the best thing for Star Wars since The Clone Wars animated show.

So since it's art and it's purely subjective, neither you or I's opinion really matters in the grand scheme of things.

When I sit down to watch it, I'm going to enjoy it.
When you sit down to watch it, you likely won't enjoy it as you haven't really seemed to so far.

What more is there to say? You aren't going to suddenly convince one side that the show is either bad or good. That's already been determined.

You hated the N-1 Starfighter. I absolutely LOVED it. What more is there to say about it? You can look for the group that agrees with you, discuss it thoroughly and then what? You aren't making the show, it's not going to change. If you want to talk about a fantastic waste of 50 minutes of your life, this seems to be it. It's like the old adage about atheists and golf. People who don't golf, don't waste time sitting around bitching about golf. They just move on and go do something worth their time. The other posters question is valid, a lot of you say "I don't like it, yet you're still here in thread complaining about it and watching the show. Just move on, go find something else that IS worth your time and that you enjoy.

Try looking at it from a different perspective. These shows are all parts of a bigger whole. There will be crossovers, there should be crossovers. Instead of threating them all as separate and compartmentalized, they're melding them showing a living, breathing universe.

The problem is they don't feel like crossovers of a living, breathing setting (unless its all about one neighborhood on the same street). They're comic book crossovers, where's its all about getting the audience to spend money on a comic they otherwise wouldn't buy.

This one in particular would be far more convincing if they'd, say, called in a favor or contacted him a different system. But the only reason Mando's now involved at all is a really contrived chain of events involving him visiting familar faces and ending up in a random spot he was once seen standing before. Rather than going to the Crazy Wookie's Ship Emporium on the Ringworld of Far More Interesting Things and buying a ship and just getting on with his life.

So, that was a fun side-track.

The new ship is cool, although I'm wondering where he's going to carry his bounties. Replacing the astromech socket with a Grogu-sized dome seems like foreshadowing...

 Galef wrote:

Spoiler:

...they established in Rebels when Sabine is being taught to wield the Darksaber by Kanan that it's somehow in tune with the wielder's emotional state. If you're rigid try to force your will, the saber resists,but if you are flexible and listen to the will of the Force, the saber will flow with ease.

Yes, it's odd, but at least it's a previous established thing

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 insaniak wrote:

Spoiler:

It also goes right back to Lucas' original ideas behind lightsabers. They're used with two hands in the original movies because they were supposed to be heavy, and it was only a Jedi's connection with the force that allowed them to use the things effectively in the first place, which is why only Jedi (and, you know, former Jedi) used them.

Jedi in the prequel era often used them one-handed to accentuate that these were Jedi in their prime, and so more in tune with the force and their weapons. But the two-handed style was still the style everyone started out with.

Interesting. I wonder if that was retrocanon inserted back into the OT to justify the more kinetic action of the prequels. Either way, I'm fine with it and didn't know about it regardless. I'd stay that Obi-Wan, while obviously rusty in terms of actual combat, was pretty darn in tune and should have still been using it that way in ANH. YMMV.

Voss wrote:

Try looking at it from a different perspective. These shows are all parts of a bigger whole. There will be crossovers, there should be crossovers. Instead of threating them all as separate and compartmentalized, they're melding them showing a living, breathing universe.

The problem is they don't feel like crossovers of a living, breathing setting (unless its all about one neighborhood on the same street). They're comic book crossovers, where's its all about getting the audience to spend money on a comic they otherwise wouldn't buy.

This one in particular would be far more convincing if they'd, say, called in a favor or contacted him a different system. But the only reason Mando's now involved at all is a really contrived chain of events involving him visiting familar faces and ending up in a random spot he was once seen standing before. Rather than going to the Crazy Wookie's Ship Emporium on the Ringworld of Far More Interesting Things and buying a ship and just getting on with his life.

Spoiler:

Or you know, in some way reacting to getting thrown out of his cult, like going on a binge or getting in a fight or... something. Nope, took a plane to go see the untrustworthy mechanic at the back end of space, who immediately proved to be... shock... untrustworthy

How was she untrustworthy? She literally got him a better ship than the one he had before. I get it bro, you don't like the show. That sucks, but you won't convince me to see your way...

Perhaps the show isn't for you. I don't know what to tell ya.