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Voss wrote:
The problem I have with Geifer's approach to defending the show from criticism (which is kind of a 'why bother?' to me anyway), is that the manufactured reasons to make it sound OK actually cause more consistency problems than they solve.


I wouldn't call it "defending". My enjoyment of the show is not tied to your opinion of it. I don't need to defend the show, nor change your mind. As far as I'm concerned everyone is welcome to their opinion.

I just offer different takes where I have them since I'm getting the impression that you are looking at things in Star Wars in a very specific and set way, and expect things to mesh with the established setting in exactly that way or else it's bogus. I can appreciate consistency, too. I'm not happy to see it get tossed out either. My BS tolerance just isn't as low as yours and I don't mind accepting, let's call it simplistic logic, as an explanation.

Let's illustrate that with the scene we've been talking about. Go back to Rogue One and the Star Destroyer over Jedha City. It hovers over the city, parallel to the ground like a speeder. I'm assuming you're fine with this. Whereas you take exception to Slave One peeking down the hole. Simplistic logic that works for me:

Star Destroyers are rigidly constructed with decks having a set orientation and artificial gravity making the ship work much like a planetary installation. We've seen this. It therefore stands to reason that if the ship hovers over the ground, it will do so in a manner that aligns the artificial gravity field with the gravity field of the planet. Reasonable, right?

Slave One has been shown to park in a different orientation than it flies from its earliest appearance. In the prequels it's shown that you have to climb into the cockpit (seats) without the help of artificial gravity. In the Mandalorian it's shown that it has a gyrostabilized passenger compartment/cargo hold that, if I remember correctly, has artificial gravity and is aligned with the gravitational field of a planet when in atmosphere, no matter the direction the ship is actually flying. Unlike the Imperial brick, Slave One has been shown to turn and spin without the people inside falling over. I can accept that this means the ship can point down, or up, or sideways, as the pilot pleases without upsetting either the passengers or any mechanical features.

You may take issue with the ship pointing down at the Sarlacc, but I'd disagree with the idea that this is inconsistent with what has been shown of the ships workings so far. Therefore, for me, it works. Would that have been my choice? Probably not. But I don't see it as a breakdown of the show either.

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How did the Rancor reach up that high?


it jumped, i guess? or it used its rather long arms (compared to its body) to reach up?


either way, i'm waiting for the scene where he rocks up to the cantina riding that thing all baller....

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 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
How did the Rancor reach up that high?


Tippy toes.

 
   
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 Geifer wrote:
Voss wrote:
The problem I have with Geifer's approach to defending the show from criticism (which is kind of a 'why bother?' to me anyway), is that the manufactured reasons to make it sound OK actually cause more consistency problems than they solve.

. But I don't see it as a breakdown of the show either.


I don't see it as a breakdown of the show myself. Its just the continuation of a crap effort that keeps the show from being anything noteworthy.

But, yes. You're definitely defending. Four (more) paragraphs of rationalizing a single poor scene is something only a fan does to defend a show. Were either of us average viewers we'd just shrug it off as trivial.

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 Geifer wrote:
What strange views you have. Discussion does not require partisanship.


You're absolutely right, it doesn't. But writing up with 500-100 words of technical in-universe explanation to mindcaulk a random plot hole does.

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 AduroT wrote:
 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
How did the Rancor reach up that high?


Tippy toes.


Got an initial giggle out of me and then I visualized it and couldn't stop laughing.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

At least the music's good, he said, damning with faint praise...

I'm actually finding the music a little distracting... because it's almost the music from the Mandalorian, but just not as good.

Which, honestly, is a fairly good description of this show in general, so far. I wanted to like this one, but it's just kind of meandering along with no real point or thought to it, and this version of Boba is about the least interesting of the various options they could have gone with.

I feel like having the first season just be about his time with the sand people and eventually organising the raid on the train would have been more interesting than the jumping back and forth, particularly since the 'now' part of the story is so dull.



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Voss wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
What strange views you have. Discussion does not require partisanship.


You're absolutely right, it doesn't. But writing up with 500-100 words of technical in-universe explanation to mindcaulk a random plot hole does.

I suspect you're imbuing those paragraphs with a lot more effort than they actually took to write. But ultimately, the explanation is - It's Star Wars: anti-grav works, and has no visible cause.

That's not something new. We're pretty much never shown any visible source of the repulsor effect. It just happens.




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 Lance845 wrote:

I wouldn't call it consistent. Lightsabers cut through everything with no resistance all the time. Until the prequels when you need to slowly melt through a door. .

To be fair, some materials being at least slightly resistant to lightsabers was actually introduced in the EU before the prequels came along and canonised it. There's a scene in one of the earlier novels where Luke slides down a fortress wall with his lightsaber stuck into it, using the resistance from the rock to slow his descent. Fairly sure they also had lightsaber-resistant armour before the prequels, although Beskar™ came along later IIRC, probably when Karen Traviss started turning the Mandos into superheroes.

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 insaniak wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:

I wouldn't call it consistent. Lightsabers cut through everything with no resistance all the time. Until the prequels when you need to slowly melt through a door. .

To be fair, some materials being at least slightly resistant to lightsabers was actually introduced in the EU before the prequels came along and canonised it. There's a scene in one of the earlier novels where Luke slides down a fortress wall with his lightsaber stuck into it, using the resistance from the rock to slow his descent. Fairly sure they also had lightsaber-resistant armour before the prequels, although Beskar™ came along later IIRC, probably when Karen Traviss started turning the Mandos into superheroes.


To be fair, the EU was also a inconsistent mess with different authors and sometimes the same author having wildly different takes on everything and anything. So what one or some books had to say on the mater means exactly nothing.


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I wasn't arguing that there was any consistency. just pointing out that lightsaber resistance predated the prequels.

Lucas himself has always gone with what looks good in the moment over what fits best with previous material. Internal consistency and 'canon' validity has always mattered far more to the fans than to the people making this stuff.

 
   
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'Oh hey that wookie that tried to kill me is in my casino place attacking the patrons. Better give him a job!'


Eh. Professional Underworld Respect is something this show is trying for. It might as well pay off once.

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The Wookiee hired for a hit. Which failed.

The Wookiee then given to Boba to do with as he please.

The Wookiee that was immediately given his freedom by Boba Fett, when he could have taken his life.

That….that Wookiee? Yeah?

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The Wookiee hired for a hit. Which failed.

The Wookiee then given to Boba to do with as he please.

The Wookiee that was immediately given his freedom by Boba Fett, when he could have taken his life.

That….that Wookiee? Yeah?


Yep. Look, half the cast, including the title character, are comically inept. But one of the themes the show is flailing about trying to illustrate is the idea of ruling by respect in the Underworld, instead of fear (Jabba) or firepower (fish people). That's literally Boba's stated goal. If it _never_ pays off, what's the point?

I already think Fennec will betray him in the end, so they need something to give Boba some false sense of security that he's on the right path. Or even have it pay off!
Plus the Wookie's makeup and costume is soooo much better than most of the cast that they might as well use it. Its the one thing they've put effort in.

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I personally liked they pay off of the lines

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Definitely thought the 4th episode was the best one so far.

I have now gone from "will give one more episode a go" to actively looking forward to it.

I like that it has brought back some sense of fun (the 'rat catching' droid - I want one!) and you have to remember it is meant to be family entertainment, so Boba possibly can't be the horrible bad-ass that even Darth Vader is deferential to in the films.

I love the Ralph McQuarrie-like storyboard artwork at the end of each episode too.

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 Pacific wrote:
I love the Ralph McQuarrie-like storyboard artwork at the end of each episode too.


Yeah, that's pretty cool and I liked those in the Mandalorian as well.

What's not so cool is when you see that the artist gave the scene and the questions that might arise from it some decent thought and it wasn't carried over to the actual scene. Not great seeing they had the right idea but didn't go with it.

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 Pacific wrote:
Definitely thought the 4th episode was the best one so far.

I have now gone from "will give one more episode a go" to actively looking forward to it.

I like that it has brought back some sense of fun (the 'rat catching' droid - I want one!) and you have to remember it is meant to be family entertainment, so Boba possibly can't be the horrible bad-ass that even Darth Vader is deferential to in the films.

I love the Ralph McQuarrie-like storyboard artwork at the end of each episode too.


...says, about an episode in which Boba strafes to death a full biker gang with no chance of reprisal (that was actually the part I liked best, TBH XD).

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 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
I personally liked they pay off of the lines

“It's not wise to upset a Wookiee” “they pull people's arms from their sockets when they lose.”

The fun part is, he didn't lose and they weren't interacting with him in any way at all.

Its 100% a deep-dive fan service trivia thing about the antipathy between wookies and trandoshans that isn't in any of the films. Just that trandoshans are trophy hunters of other sapients, and particularly like wookies as victims (hence the pelt at the beginning of the show). To non-fans, he should just come off as a particularly random murderer.

 Geifer wrote:
 Pacific wrote:
I love the Ralph McQuarrie-like storyboard artwork at the end of each episode too.


Yeah, that's pretty cool and I liked those in the Mandalorian as well.

What's not so cool is when you see that the artist gave the scene and the questions that might arise from it some decent thought and it wasn't carried over to the actual scene. Not great seeing they had the right idea but didn't go with it.

yeah, the art for the scenes is legitimately great, consistently much better than what they filmed.

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the Wookie's makeup and costume is soooo much better than most of the cast that they might as well use it. Its the one thing they've put effort in.
The role of Black Krrsantan is played by Carey Jones, who worked on Alita: Battle Angel and Once Upon a Time... In Hollywood as Make-Up Department, others as makeup effects supervisor and many similar. That'll help with the look.
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Voss wrote:
 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
I personally liked they pay off of the lines

“It's not wise to upset a Wookiee” “they pull people's arms from their sockets when they lose.”

The fun part is, he didn't lose and they weren't interacting with him in any way at all.

Its 100% a deep-dive fan service trivia thing about the antipathy between wookies and trandoshans that isn't in any of the films. Just that trandoshans are trophy hunters of other sapients, and particularly like wookies as victims (hence the pelt at the beginning of the show). To non-fans, he should just come off as a particularly random murderer.


And some fans are speculating that it's setting up Bossk's arrival.
   
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 Pacific wrote:
Definitely thought the 4th episode was the best one so far.

I have now gone from "will give one more episode a go" to actively looking forward to it.

I like that it has brought back some sense of fun (the 'rat catching' droid - I want one!) and you have to remember it is meant to be family entertainment, so Boba possibly can't be the horrible bad-ass that even Darth Vader is deferential to in the films.

I love the Ralph McQuarrie-like storyboard artwork at the end of each episode too.


...says, about an episode in which Boba strafes to death a full biker gang with no chance of reprisal (that was actually the part I liked best, TBH XD).


Haha yes that is very true.. strafing vehicles with aircraft, all family-friendly entertainment!

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beast_gts wrote:
Voss wrote:
 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
I personally liked they pay off of the lines

“It's not wise to upset a Wookiee” “they pull people's arms from their sockets when they lose.”

The fun part is, he didn't lose and they weren't interacting with him in any way at all.

Its 100% a deep-dive fan service trivia thing about the antipathy between wookies and trandoshans that isn't in any of the films. Just that trandoshans are trophy hunters of other sapients, and particularly like wookies as victims (hence the pelt at the beginning of the show). To non-fans, he should just come off as a particularly random murderer.


And some fans are speculating that it's setting up Bossk's arrival.


Because...?

I mean, I gets its star wars street and all, but wookie+lizard maiming = a visit from that one specific guy that stood five feet away from Boba that one time and was never seen again seems... pointless.

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