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Silverstone, UK

 BlaxicanX wrote:
 EnTyme wrote:
Are people really still on this "they're making everything kid friendly" kick? WTF kind of childhood did you people have that this stuff would be considererd kid friendly in your house?
How old are you?

I was raised in a Jehovah's Witness household and I saw Aliens and Starship Troopers with my Dad when I was like 8.


I think I was 11 or 12 when I saw the likes of Alien, The Exorcist, a bootleg of the uncut Evil Dead, about the time video recorders came about.

"Bloody typical, they've gone back to metric without telling us."

"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh haven't you?"

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I saw those movies when I was about the same age. Doesn't make them kid-friendly.

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Missouri

I dunno if you guys realized this or not but the models are sold unpainted and unassembled. So like...you can paint them. With your own preferred brand of paint. In whatever colors and styles you want.

Sorry if I sound like an ass but some of you act like you really don't know and I just wanted to help out.

 EnTyme wrote:
I saw those movies when I was about the same age. Doesn't make them kid-friendly.


Yeah, if that's the argument being made here then you guys are wrong. Starship Troopers is not a "kiddie movie" because your parents didn't give a gak and let you watch it when you were too young. Aliens however is pretty tame, at least compared to the first one, so I guess that counts.

I guess no one else grew up with a mom who fell for that 80's hysteria about D&D/tabletop being "satanic"?

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 Desubot wrote:
Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.


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 EnTyme wrote:
I saw those movies when I was about the same age. Doesn't make them kid-friendly.

In my house hold it was accepted that me and my sister (my sister less so) could handle more adult themes. It's up to the parents really to decide what is kid-friendly for their children.

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so f***ing what." - Stephen Fry
 
   
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For those poor guys who don't speak German, the text says the trees are gateways to Nurge's realm through which daemons come, that they are terrain models for use with 40k and Age of Sigmar and that the kit comes with extra bells (but no whistles, apparently).

Makes it sound like drop pods or spawn points.

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Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!

 Sidstyler wrote:
I dunno if you guys realized this or not but the models are sold unpainted and unassembled. So like...you can paint them. With your own preferred brand of paint. In whatever colors and styles you want.

Sorry if I sound like an ass but some of you act like you really don't know and I just wanted to help out.

I feel like you haven't quite grasped the two sides of the argument: one side says the models are fine because it's just the paintjob, the other side says the paintjob isn't the problem qnd the models are just cartoony.

No one is saying they aren't going to buy the models because the paintjob is bad.

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so f***ing what." - Stephen Fry
 
   
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I made photos of the new WD

Link to my album

https://imgur.com/a/8v2Of


* If pics look cropped -> right-click on them -> open in a new tab *


Spoiler:
Designer's Notes


















Next WD




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thanks a lot warhams !!!
   
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You are welcome
   
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Columbus, Oh

Ummmm... $140 USD for the Greater Daemon of Nurgle.. .OWICH!

2+2=5 for sufficiently large values of 2.

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Warhams-77 wrote:
You are welcome


can you upload the necromunda mission pleeeease
   
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Ok, give me a few minutes
   
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 porkuslime wrote:
Ummmm... $140 USD for the Greater Daemon of Nurgle.. .OWICH!

Why is it £15 more than the other two? Is this just price escalation?

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so f***ing what." - Stephen Fry
 
   
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Looking at that model, it probably uses more plastic, especially with two belly options.

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 EnTyme wrote:
Looking at that model, it probably uses more plastic, especially with two belly options.

It is shorty than the other two though and lacks wings.

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so f***ing what." - Stephen Fry
 
   
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It's got a lot of surface area, though. Like a ton of it. This is easily a three-sprue model. The other greater daemons could fit on just two.

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Perth, Western Australia

woof...all those prices seem pretty harsh, at least in AU$

...it'd cost me AU$569 to get a GUO, a tree, 3 beasts, the scrivener and the bilepiper...7 models...bloody ouch, frankly...and I'm still fairly cleaned out from the death guard stuff...yeah...I might be sitting this stuff out, at least for a while I think...

...also, the glottkin is AU$152...and the new GUO is going to be AU$230...I don't honestly see why the GUO kit is worth one and a half glottkin kits...

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 EnTyme wrote:
It's got a lot of surface area, though. Like a ton of it. This is easily a three-sprue model. The other greater daemons could fit on just two.

Again, the surface area is about the same when you take into account it has no wings unlike the others.

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so f***ing what." - Stephen Fry
 
   
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Vigo. Spain.

 EnTyme wrote:
It's got a lot of surface area, though. Like a ton of it. This is easily a three-sprue model. The other greater daemons could fit on just two.

EnTyme, I respect you and your positiveness. But sometimes theres no point in trying to defend some GW decissions. This GUO could easely be of the same price as the LOC and Bloodthirster. Or at least Skarbrand. He cost more, just like Mortarion cost more than Magnus for no reason.
We'll live with it.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Warhams-77 wrote:I made photos of the new WD

Link to my album

https://imgur.com/a/8v2Of


* If pics look cropped -> right-click on them -> open in a new tab *


Spoiler:
Designer's Notes


















Next WD






What no Stormcasts? Nice and refreshing not to see them all the time in your face.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

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I was expecting the GUO to be price about $20 cheaper, too, but I'm trying to point out that the price increases isn't for "no reason". This thing is going to take more plastic to mold than any of the other greater daemons. To me, the most ridiculous price is on the Beast of Nurgle. For $40, you should be getting at least two models, or a special character that requires two sprues.

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Do we have a £ price for horticulous please?
   
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Well, at $140 there's not much chance of me ever picking one up. Shame, as it would have been an interesting challenge for an army showcase kind of model.

 
   
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I'm hoping we'll eventually see a Greater Daemon bundle after Slaanesh has his release.

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Dang. Talk about inflation. I bought my metal GUO for 40 bucks new in box I think he's been downgraded (as a better) Daemon Prince now!
   
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rtb02 wrote:
Do we have a £ price for horticulous please?


Nothing yet; he doesn't appear as an entry in the White Dwarf, according to those with a copy. However, based on Vandus Hammerhand and Korghos Khul, I'd guess £25
   
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rtb02 wrote:
Do we have a £ price for horticulous please?


Not in WD :(

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50 CDN for a single beast of nurgle? Oh GW...
   
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Devon, UK

 EnTyme wrote:
I was expecting the GUO to be price about $20 cheaper, too, but I'm trying to point out that the price increases isn't for "no reason". This thing is going to take more plastic to mold than any of the other greater daemons. To me, the most ridiculous price is on the Beast of Nurgle. For $40, you should be getting at least two models, or a special character that requires two sprues.


If your theory of three sprues vs two is correct (and there's no evidence of this, wings take up an awful lot of sprue real estate that the GUO can repurpose for other stuff) then there is a vague justification for a price increase, although the per-unit cost increase of an extra sprue won't be anything like the price increase.

But please stop banging on about more plastic as some sort of excuse, the raw material costs of plastic models is tiny, and cannot possibly explain the jump.

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