Ork Nob Squad

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**Hazard30**

Nob Squad with 'eavy Armour and cyborked

yes or no?

I hear alot of different views on this point, so I just want to take a census on if its worth it or not?

**whembly**

eh... with Painboy... i'd only take just cyborked.

**tkrettler91**

cyborked,

**Deathsadvocate**

Yeah just take cybork. With 'eavy armour there is too much weaponry that will negate the armour with all the heavy bolters and meltas out there. At least with cybork body you are gonna get your save pretty much all the time.

**Jidmah**

Agree, if you have a painboy, all cyborked. Any weapons actually dangerous to FNP nobz ignore 4+ armor anyway.

**G00fySmiley**

cyborked with a painboy... forget eavy armor, and make sure to diversifuy equipment for wound shenanagins

**KingCracker**

Plus uh......like 8 for me. Cybork and FNP. Eavy armor is really a waste of points, unless you playing a huge ass game where those points wont really make a difference

**MrMerlin**

compare fnp to EA:

cost:
fnp: 30 (to upgrade one nob to painboy)
ea: 15-50, depends on squad size

effectiveness:
ea: protects you from ap-, ap6 and ap5
fnp: protects you from ap4 and ap3 as well, but doesn't protect you against S8+, wich on the other hand usually has good ap so armor wouldn't protect you either.

go for cyborg, because that cant be ignored.

Maybe use armor in tiny units in wich a painboy woudnt be worth his points

**Jidmah**

In that case, rather go for mega-armor

**Arakasi**

I run 'eavy armour and cybork - though that it mainly just to eat up points. However, I find it useful in two cases - against massed light arms fire and massed non power weapon attacks in H2H. Seeing as I usually face IG with mass blobs - this tends to come in real handy for me...

**tetrisphreak**

Don't forget that if you screen with boyz or grotz You'll have a 4+ cover save, only ignored by barrage weapons (and tau SMS ...meh) followed by FNP. Very tough unit to crack.

**KingCracker**

tetrisphreak wrote:Don't forget that if you screen with boyz or grotz You'll have a 4+ cover save, only ignored by barrage weapons (and tau SMS ...meh) followed by FNP. Very tough unit to crack.

Actually that depends on where the hole is in the blast marker. Barrage weapons dont automatically ignore cover.

**tetrisphreak**

KingCracker wrote:
tetrisphreak wrote:Don't forget that if you screen with boyz or grotz You'll have a 4+ cover save, only ignored by barrage weapons (and tau SMS ...meh) followed by FNP. Very tough unit to crack.

Actually that depends on where the hole is in the blast marker. Barrage weapons dont automatically ignore cover.

True but you get the main point - screening with cheep-o grotz is a good way to maintain survivability in your foot squads. Tyranids do it with gribblies.

**KingCracker**

And yea I agree with that. Learning to screen effectively is a skill any aspiring Ork player needs to know.