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Since I've been reading some 40k fluff novels, I've noticed a trend. I hate the Adeptus Mechanicus. They always seem to be turning up in the middle of a situation and making it worse. They never seem to want to work with anyone else in the IoM, and assume superiority to every else.

Having read only a limited amount of fluff, I was curious to know if anyone else gets frustrated with any particular 40k faction, and what makes them so annoying.

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Space Marines used to not annoy me, but with the recently fluff now they do. Its guaranteed that they'll be awesome and epic and win. Grey Knights are like that taken up to eleven, so I they kind of annoy me too. However, those two factions are both creative and interesting so they don't annoy me too much.

The Eldar also annoy me, with their grand arrogance. Its surprising, considering when they were the most powerful faction in the galaxy, they managed to screw things up even worse than the Horus Heresy. Way to go.

However, the faction that really annoys me is the Night Lords (as some users may already know). Before I read Soul Hunter, I thought they were an interesting and creative concept. The first two Chaos Space Marine Codexes did them well; an army of bloodthirsty renegades who are too corrupt to serve the Imperium but too arrogant to serve Chaos. They were the terror of the Eastern Fringe, striking at random with no remorse and no hesitation. After Soul Hunter I couldn't stand the whiny Mary Sues.
   
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I think Tau annoy me the most, as they always assume that everyone one wants to join their stupid greater good. They also say that the Emperor was noble, but failed to unite humanity through his actions. It was actually the actions of others that caused him to fail.

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The Adeptus Mechanicus, like the Administratum and (to an extent) the Ecclesiarchy are doomed to be protrayed as annoyances - usually secondary ones - because they have no tabletop armies, and there is thus no playerbase to whom to appeal (or to avoid offending) by writing them as heroic or competent.

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Space Marines. Not because of anything they've done but because of how overexposed they are by GW.

Also Eldar. For a dying race that destroyed itself you'd think they'd show a little more humility.

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I dislike the DE. In the midst of all the grimdarkness of 40k they seem quite content and happy doing what they do. There's nothing tragic about them. They're like the rich kids in high school who complain that their life is so unfair, an that everyone is out to get them.

I like the models though, they look pretty cool
   
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DiAF wrote:I dislike the DE. In the midst of all the grimdarkness of 40k they seem quite content and happy doing what they do. There's nothing tragic about them. They're like the rich kids in high school who complain that their life is so unfair, an that everyone is out to get them.

I like the models though, they look pretty cool


They're definitely on top of the world, on account of them having to inflict pain or lose their souls, and having a bad case of defense considering 500 Space Marines fought off, like, the entire population of Commorragh.
Plus the fact that the only one that really can hold them together is Vect, who's pretty much been a general for over eight thousand years AFAIK and virtually the smartest thing in the galaxy aside from Tzeentch.

Back on topic, I can't stand Tau.

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DiAF wrote:I dislike the DE. In the midst of all the grimdarkness of 40k they seem quite content and happy doing what they do. There's nothing tragic about them. They're like the rich kids in high school who complain that their life is so unfair, an that everyone is out to get them.

I like the models though, they look pretty cool


They'll all die in the end, their method of "immorality" gets weaker the older they get, and it can take an entire planets suffering for an older DE to get any kind of beneficial reaction from it. Eventually they simply require such levels of suffering so frequently it'll be impossible to achieve.

And once that happens it's time for some Slaanesh. Then they won't be so happy.

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Prof. Omnom wrote:It was actually the actions of others that caused him to fail.


Some may disagree.

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:Plus the fact that the only one that really can hold them together is Vect, who's pretty much been a general for over eight thousand years AFAIK and virtually the smartest thing in the galaxy aside from Tzeentch.


Vect is also rumored to be nearing his end, his body no longer capable of being revitalised.

On-topic, almost everything about the Space Wolves bothers me.
   
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Chaos. Specifically, Chaos Marines. They have very little in the way of logic to justify their motivations or their methods of operation.

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Jimsolo wrote:Chaos. Specifically, Chaos Marines. They have very little in the way of logic to justify their motivations or their methods of operation.


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On-topic, almost everything about the Space Wolves bothers me.
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so far we have heard space wolves, Ad Mech, Tau, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Space Marines, Ultrasmurfs, and Chaos Marines.

But what about Orks, Necrons, Nids and Guard?

personally the entire fluff behind marines in general being an unstoppable force capable of crushing an entire planet with a handful of men makes me feel ill to read about.


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I don't think that any one faction annoys me. I like how delightfully silly the Orks are, I love how the Dark Eldar are the only ones engaging in the most supreme of indulgences in a universe where the fate of entire planets is decided. I actually like the Space Wolves and their constant battle against the curse of the Wulfen - and I like the tragedy of the Blood Angels, how their great Flaw can cause them to fly into a rage, ultimately losing their mind to the Black Rage.

I really only find issue with single pieces of fluff, like how the Blood Angels allied with the Necrons. Some temporary alliances make sense, like a Marine chapter to (maybe) join forces with Eldar to stop some sort of Tyranid invasion. Blood Angels temporarily allying with soulless machines? Yeah, right. And while humanity's hatred of xenos is legendary, I can at least see a human-Eldar temporary team-up happening if both a Craftworld and human planet were at stake.

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Locclo wrote:I really only find issue with single pieces of fluff, like how the Blood Angels allied with the Necrons.


People bringing this up always bug me. Basically you have two sides slugging it out to a stalemate. Then a third much larger force invades. To survive you shift your priorities. So the blood angels and necrons didn't team up, they simply chose to shoot at the 100 nids as apposed to the 1 necron/blood angel you would have otherwise been shooting. They didn't care if the other side lived or died, they just hoped that they took out as many nids as possible while being killed because without their former enemies acting as a distraction either side would have been overwhelmed. At the end both sides had just suffered too many losses and made a tactical retreat.

As far as most annoying faction. I think it is a toss up between the eldar and the space wolves. I just don't like the eldar they just seem silly to me. They are supposed to be all tragic, but their actions far to often make them seem more like the galaxies largest idiots. As for the Space Wolves, I just don't like how primitive and barbaric they are, it seems so out of place in a sci-fi setting.

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The Eldar the most, for a race that brought themselves to the brink of extinction and created a CHAOS GOD, they sure are arrogant.

Ultramarines after that, there is just something about them, they just come off as arrogant.

Hmmm...I am noticing a pattern here...


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"Also Eldar. For a dying race that destroyed itself you'd think they'd show a little more humility"

Or not, considering that they don't have much of a race left to make another mistake. I like the arrogance and contempt they hold for other races when it comes to their own survivial (but then I'm a Dark Elf player so its not a surprise)

On Topc: Space wolves, only for the language used in Proposero burns. I ready had to force myself through the first 10-20 pages of murder makes and pesudo-viking babble that makes up the start.

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Definitly Eldar.

For a Race that did the most to screw the Galaxy over, they sure are snooty and arrogant little .

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Grey Templar wrote:Definitly Eldar.

For a Race that did the most to screw the Galaxy over, they sure are snooty and arrogant little .

Yep, because Space Marines, Humans, Tau, Dark Eldar, Orks, Necrons and other races are humble and not equally arrogant. Name one race that doesn't think it's better than others. (maybe apart from the while IoM craving to be Ultramarines )
I mean Space Marine is genetically modified (but still) a human. When that SM looks down on other human it's OK. When imperial guardsmen doesn't praise and love SM they are donkey-caves.
But when some other race also thinks it's better than humans it's suddenly 'too arrogant'.
'Kill the Xenos!' good. 'Filth Mon-Keigh' bad.
And IoM totally wasn't involved in creation of Chaos Space Marines, propelling all the chaos gods into their power now, wiping out numerous races and other juicy things to screw over the whole world..

But nevertheless, Eldar are arrogant

Back on the topic, I thought for a longer while and I couldn't think of any race that I truly hate. I am however very negative towards any faction (even my favourite ones) after some fanboy praises it without end..

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Macok wrote:
Grey Templar wrote:Definitly Eldar.

For a Race that did the most to screw the Galaxy over, they sure are snooty and arrogant little .

Yep, because Space Marines, Humans, Tau, Dark Eldar, Orks, Necrons and other races are humble and not equally arrogant. Name one race that doesn't think it's better than others. (maybe apart from the while IoM craving to be Ultramarines )
I mean Space Marine is genetically modified (but still) a human. When that SM looks down on other human it's OK. When imperial guardsmen doesn't praise and love SM they are donkey-caves.
But when some other race also thinks it's better than humans it's suddenly 'too arrogant'.
'Kill the Xenos!' good. 'Filth Mon-Keigh' bad.
And IoM totally wasn't involved in creation of Chaos Space Marines, propelling all the chaos gods into their power now, wiping out numerous races and other juicy things to screw over the whole world..

But nevertheless, Eldar are arrogant

Back on the topic, I thought for a longer while and I couldn't think of any race that I truly hate. I am however very negative towards any faction (even my favourite ones) after some fanboy praises it without end..


To be fair, most other races have a reason to be Arrogant. the IoM is the most powerful empire in the Galaxy, Orks are Orks, Necrons get to exterminate all life every 100 billion years, Nomnomnom, Tau have that annoying Greater Good.

the Eldar once had something to brag about, but then their entire race got mind-raped by a Chaos god of their own creation.

and yet, they STILL act like they are superior. They forsee a possable future and try to alter it, but it happens anyway(often BECAUSE they meddeled with it)

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Tau. Tau tau tau. They have absolutely no idea what they're getting into, but fanboys still see them as the only hope for a doomed galaxy. I'm a huge fan of the IG, but I know that all they do is prevent the inevitable. Also, if I recall correctly, the Tau wrote of the size of the IoM as human error.

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Pretty much all Space Marines (excluding Chaos), especially GK and SW. Their infallability gets pretty annoying and boring. It's almost coming to the point where all other factions exist soley to be beaten by them, it's rather bad.

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asimo77 wrote:It's almost coming to the point where all other factions exist soley to be beaten by them, it's rather bad.

Isn't that the whole premise behind the game itself?
   
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Grey Templar wrote:Definitly Eldar.

For a Race that did the most to screw the Galaxy over, they sure are snooty and arrogant little .


That's not exactly fair. The Eldar who are the snootiest are those of the Craftworlds which didn't spiral into decadence along with their empire. The Dark Eldar were the ones who screwed everything up and then threw another crazy party afterwords.
   
 
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