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Brother Coa wrote:

And I don't see something bad for humans in joining the Tau. It's said that Gue'vesa live better than Imperials.

What Humans in Tau Empire are treated liek second class citizens, there are even rumors thta they are sterilized. And Gue'vesa solders in Tau Empire are used like cannon fodder, same like the Guard ( but at least Guard is fighting for it's own RACE ).

The Gue'vesa live much, much better than humans in the IoM. They aren't treated as well as the Tau, it doesn't mean they are treated poorly. Plus, they get their own worlds, so there's that. A human society away from the IoM is the dream of just about every non-adeptus human.

The sterilization thing is hinted at in one of several non-canon endings to a video game. It REALLY doesn't matter.

Actually, the tau don't use anything as canon fodder, ever (except on the TT, but that is really human players so...) check out this quote from codex: Tau Empire.

When they absolutely must storm defenses, the attack will be led by auxilliary troops such as the kroot in a variation of kauyon. The assault troops are not used as pawns-the Tau way of war does not recognize the concept of expendable troops. Instead, their safety is entrusted to the troops providing covering fire who must identify and kill enemy firebases before the assault force suffers harm

They are just used as storm troops, due to being stronger than tau, and tougher than kroot (though not as strong as kroot).

Brother Coa wrote:

LoneLictor wrote:
No, they are not us in the distant future. Chaos is not real. The Tau are not real. Tyranids are not real. The Emperor is not real. We will never be them and they will never be us. Ever.

Who knows what our future will be? Maybe we will be worse then the Imperium, maybe better who knows... Main point is that peopel once called submarines, airplanes, laser, spaceships science fiction and "not real" and what we have today? Witch reminds me...

It isn't treason or betraying your face to support one fictional group of people over another (that is closer to what we are in real life) because they aren't real and never will be!

...science fiction is not that far from reality, and this has been proven.

Warhammer 40k was purposefully over and the top and insane! According to it Daemon Princes have been around since the Middle Ages! Just because some Sci Fi is close to reality does not mean all Sci Fi is! All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares.

Just ask any GW employee, "Do you think Warhammer 40k is accurate about what will happen in the future?" and listen to their answer.

Brother Coa wrote:...science fiction is not that far from reality, and this has been proven.

Science fiction is an abstract term used to subjectively describe a genre of literature. It cannot be "proven" to be close to reality.

Some science fiction is close to reality, but most is not. A lot of science fiction didn't predict technological advances that would come in the future; in 2001: A Space Odyssey, for example, we were completely wrong about how computers would advance. But some elements in science fiction (Like the Monolith in the before-mentioned 2001) were never designed to be realistic in the first place, and most of Warhammer 40k fits under this category.

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:Not this gak again. Get it into your fricking head, Warhammer 40k is fictional. No one is a traitor to their race, as the humans in 40k do not exist.

You are pretty quick to stick your nose into other people business.... and what are the Imperials in 40k then?
Right, they are Terrans... and Terrans are not Humans...I get it.
And you got angry a lot of time because of fictional universe...


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LoneLictor wrote:
What KillroyKiljoy was trying to explain is that Warhammer 40k isn't real, the people in it aren't real, and above all else, we are not the people in it. We are the humans in a fictional realm just as much as we are chickens and cows and pigs.

So? 40k maybe be fictional but we all like it. It's our love toward it that makes us real to us true fans, don't know about you...
You are just implementing that Humans in 40k are not Humans at all...funny their homeworld is Earth, and they originated from the same solar system as we are, and they even look like us...
Let me help you - they are we in the distant future.

Whatever, it doesn't stop it being fictional. Calling someone a 'traitor' because they say negative things about something that doesn't exist is stupid. Talk all you want about how its not my business, but you've went and posted this ludicrousness on an open forum, expect ridicule.

iproxtaco wrote:
Whatever, it doesn't stop it being fictional. Calling someone a 'traitor' because they say negative things about something that doesn't exist is stupid. Talk all you want about how its not my business, but you've went and posted this ludicrousness on an open forum, expect ridicule.

And what is your point? Like you said, this is open forum so I can say whatever I want. Here to me, Warhammer 40k is real as real world. So that makes your arguments invaid


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im2randomghgh wrote:
Actually, the tau don't use anything as canon fodder, ever (except on the TT, but that is really human players so...) check out this quote from codex: Tau Empire.

Let's ask Kroot how they feel about this sentence
( but to be fair Tau saved Kroot from Orks so all Kroot own their lives to Tau )

Molten Butter wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:...science fiction is not that far from reality, and this has been proven.

Science fiction is an abstract term used to subjectively describe a genre of literature. It cannot be "proven" to be close to reality.

Some science fiction is close to reality, but most is not. A lot of science fiction didn't predict technological advances that would come in the future; in 2001: A Space Odyssey, for example, we were completely wrong about how computers would advance. But some elements in science fiction (Like the Monolith in the before-mentioned 2001) were never designed to be realistic in the first place, and most of Warhammer 40k fits under this category.

It is worth noting though, that tesla, who lived in the 1800's, predicted the internet. Not sure how relevant it is, but I LIKE TESLA.

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f30/einstein-vs-tesla-good-article-explaining-573.html

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:
Whatever, it doesn't stop it being fictional. Calling someone a 'traitor' because they say negative things about something that doesn't exist is stupid. Talk all you want about how its not my business, but you've went and posted this ludicrousness on an open forum, expect ridicule.

And what is your point?

My point? I think you should stop this bull-gak about how people are 'traitors' because of their opinions on something that doesn't exist. Get back to reality.

im2randomghgh wrote:
Actually, the tau don't use anything as canon fodder, ever (except on the TT, but that is really human players so...) check out this quote from codex: Tau Empire.

Let's ask Kroot how they feel about this sentence
( but to be fair Tau saved Kroot from Orks so all Kroot own their lives to Tau )

They don't use Kroot as cannon-fodder. Despite their savage persona, Kroot aren't stupid.

iproxtaco wrote:My point? I think you should stop this bull-gak about how people are 'traitors' because their opinons on something that doesn't exist.

See above.

They don't use Kroot as cannon-fodder. Despite their savage persona, Kroot aren't stupid.

Tell that to Kroot that died at suicidal attack at Nimbosa to allow Tau to gun down Guardsman...

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:My point? I think you should stop this bull-gak about how people are 'traitors' because their opinons on something that doesn't exist.

See above.

They don't use Kroot as cannon-fodder. Despite their savage persona, Kroot aren't stupid.

Tell that to Kroot that died at suicidal attack at Nimbosa to allow Tau to gun down Guardsman...

That's called martyrdom.

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:My point? I think you should stop this bull-gak about how people are 'traitors' because their opinons on something that doesn't exist.

See above.

Lol. Traitor to your race Coa, you don't mind the Tau in truth!

They don't use Kroot as cannon-fodder. Despite their savage persona, Kroot aren't stupid.

Tell that to Kroot that died at suicidal attack at Nimbosa to allow Tau to gun down Guardsman...

Yeah, no, I'm almost entirely certain this is an extreme manipulation of the truth.

Coa's statements are so insane he's either trolling or hopelessly deluding himself.

It is probably better not to respond to him.

Maybe. But he's a fraternizer with Xenos races, Xenos races that are enemies of the Imperium and the Emperor. To the penitent engine with him!

im2randomghgh wrote:
It is worth noting though, that tesla, who lived in the 1800's, predicted the internet. Not sure how relevant it is, but I LIKE TESLA.

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f30/einstein-vs-tesla-good-article-explaining-573.html

The man had the right idea, free energy for all. Of course Humans are Humans and individuals always look to benefit from majority.

im2randomghgh wrote:It is worth noting though, that tesla, who lived in the 1800's, predicted the internet. Not sure how relevant it is, but I LIKE TESLA.

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f30/einstein-vs-tesla-good-article-explaining-573.html

Wow, I think I lost brain cells reading that.

God, conspiracy theories are stupid. Where's the original article? I want to see his sources (Or lack of them).

iproxtaco wrote:Maybe. But he's a fraternizer with Xenos races, Xenos races that are enemies of the Imperium and the Emperor. To the penitent engine with him!

Asari, Turians, Salarians, Quarians, Vulkans, Andorians, Azgard and others are not part of 40k. And they are ok. ( in short - they are not jerks )

I'd like to add something to my original post, even though Brother Coa is purposefully avoiding it and will probably avoid this as well.

All of the things Brother Coa listed where inventions inside Sci Universes, not the Sci Fi Universes themselves. You said, "Warhammer 40k will probably be true because an invention listed in a different book was later made in real life." The Warhammer 40k setting it not an invention; its a setting.

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:Maybe. But he's a fraternizer with Xenos races, Xenos races that are enemies of the Imperium and the Emperor. To the penitent engine with him!

Asari, Turians, Salarians, Quarians, Vulkans, Andorians, Azgard and others are not part of 40k. And they are ok. ( in short - they are not jerks )

You're a fraternizer with Xenos scum, and should be treated as if you were one. Where's my servitor creation kit?

Hey, I'm only going by what you say on how we should act as enthusiasts of 40k.

LoneLictor wrote:
All of the things Brother Coa listed where inventions inside Sci Universes, not the Sci Fi Universes themselves. You said, "Warhammer 40k will probably be true because an invention listed in a different book was later made in real life." The Warhammer 40k setting it not an invention; its a setting.

True, and there are many stories written in 18'th and 19'th century about 21'st century and a way of living. And 70% of them were true about today.

Brother Coa wrote:

LoneLictor wrote:
All of the things Brother Coa listed where inventions inside Sci Universes, not the Sci Fi Universes themselves. You said, "Warhammer 40k will probably be true because an invention listed in a different book was later made in real life." The Warhammer 40k setting it not an invention; its a setting.

True, and there are many stories written in 18'th and 19'th century about 21'st century and a way of living. And 70% of them were true about today.

At least try to back up your statements. You can't, since that's made up, but it would be funny to see you try.

iproxtaco wrote:
You're a fraternizer with Xenos scum, and should be treated as if you were one. Where's my servitor creation kit?

Hey, I'm only going by what you say on how we should act as enthusiasts of 40k.

They are ok because they are reasonable and they are not trying to wipe us out.


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iproxtaco wrote:
At least try to back up your statements. You can't, since that's made up, but it would be funny to see you try.

Why should I when I am right?

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:
You're a fraternizer with Xenos scum, and should be treated as if you were one. Where's my servitor creation kit?

Hey, I'm only going by what you say on how we should act as enthusiasts of 40k.

They are ok because they are reasonable and they are not trying to wipe us out.

But the Eldar should be destroyed, so should the Tau. Contradiction much?

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:
You're a fraternizer with Xenos scum, and should be treated as if you were one. Where's my servitor creation kit?

Hey, I'm only going by what you say on how we should act as enthusiasts of 40k.

They are ok because they are reasonable and they are not trying to wipe us out.

Tau and Eldar say hi.

EDIT: DARN!

Brother Coa wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:
At least try to back up your statements. You can't, since that's made up, but it would be funny to see you try.

Why should I when I am right?

Well, you aren't. Until you prove you are. Again though, you made that last statement up, but it would be funny to see you try.

Brother Coa wrote:

LoneLictor wrote:
No, they are not us in the distant future. Chaos is not real. The Tau are not real. Tyranids are not real. The Emperor is not real. We will never be them and they will never be us. Ever.

Who knows what our future will be? Maybe we will be worse then the Imperium, maybe better who knows... Main point is that peopel once called submarines, airplanes, laser, spaceships science fiction and "not real" and what we have today? Witch reminds me...

It isn't treason or betraying your face to support one fictional group of people over another (that is closer to what we are in real life) because they aren't real and never will be!

...science fiction is not that far from reality, and this has been proven.

If you seriously still believe this, please, go see a Psychiatrist.

iproxtaco wrote:
Well, you aren't. Until you prove you are. Again though, you made that last statement up, but it would be funny to see you try.

I won't because I am and I certainly doesn't have to prove it to you.


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KilroyKiljoy wrote:
If you seriously still believe this, please, go see a Psychiatrist.

When I see Star Trek I see us in some 250 - 500 years.

Brother Coa wrote:True, and there are many stories written in 18'th and 19'th century about 21'st century and a way of living. And 70% of them were true about today.

95% of statistics are made up on the spot as well.

Molten Butter wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:It is worth noting though, that tesla, who lived in the 1800's, predicted the internet. Not sure how relevant it is, but I LIKE TESLA.

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f30/einstein-vs-tesla-good-article-explaining-573.html

Wow, I think I lost brain cells reading that.

God, conspiracy theories are stupid. Where's the original article? I want to see his sources (Or lack of them).

Tesla's theories are actually being taken quite seriously because:

1. The LHC proved that lightspeed is NOT the maximum attainable speed. E=/=MC2

2. All his experiments were based upon the premise that ether exists. They were almost all successful.

3. Physicists have "discovered" something called dark matter which is suspiciously a lot like Ether.

Okay Coa, I am completely serious when I say this; please, get help. It isn't healthy to believe in things like Chaos and Warhammer 40k becoming real. I'm sorry, but it isn't. Even the creators of the game acknowledge them as completely fictional.

LoneLictor wrote:Okay Coa, I am completely serious when I say this; please, get help. It isn't healthy to believe in things like Chaos and Warhammer 40k becoming real. I'm sorry, but it isn't. Even the creators of the game acknowledge them as completely fictional.

I am just trolling you guys If I tough that 40k is real I would be in madhouse, not going into 3'rd year of college.
And my traitor thing is just making jokes with people, but seems some people are to serious here...

Brother Coa wrote:

LoneLictor wrote:Okay Coa, I am completely serious when I say this; please, get help. It isn't healthy to believe in things like Chaos and Warhammer 40k becoming real. I'm sorry, but it isn't. Even the creators of the game acknowledge them as completely fictional.

I am just trolling you guys If I tough that 40k is real I would be in madhouse, not going into 3'rd year of college.
And my traitor thing is just making jokes with people, but seems some people are to serious here...

Okay, good! At first I suspected it was trolling, but after you said it so much I actually started to believe you seriously believed it! I will admit that you fooled me.