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many of the old Mordheim figures would be great for the new setting.

Thinking of the Sisters of Sigmar, Aenur, Sword of Twilight, Middenheimers

 Binabik15 wrote:
Mordheim Marienburger and cultists. And Bretonnians. As if

I also thought "as if" when I requested Diaz Deamonettes

 shinros wrote:
Nice this would be a good time for Bretonnia players to get their hands on some stuff, for whatever game they play.

I second that! I have not stepped into AoS yet, and I am just waiting for Brets to appear. GW is missing a golden op here, there's $$$$$$$$$ being left on the table right now because Brets haven't been touched yet.

If the call for Brets in made to order is loud enough, I wouldn't be surprised to see new knightly sculpts by 2018 (given production time and what not). If they're not in the works already.

Just pondering, though.

Requizen wrote:
If the call for Brets in made to order is loud enough, I wouldn't be surprised to see new knightly sculpts by 2018 (given production time and what not). If they're not in the works already.

Just pondering, though.

There are some unrealesed Bretonnian figures in the hands of GW. Actually there was suppose to be a starter set, which included Bretonnians for 9th edition.

9th Edition starter with Bretonnians was a fake rumor made by fanboys.

herjan1987 wrote:

Requizen wrote:
If the call for Brets in made to order is loud enough, I wouldn't be surprised to see new knightly sculpts by 2018 (given production time and what not). If they're not in the works already.

Just pondering, though.

There are some unrealesed Bretonnian figures in the hands of GW. Actually there was suppose to be a starter set, which included Bretonnians for 9th edition.

wasn't this one of the unreleased?

Ooo never seen that one before when was that pic taken?

Requizen wrote:
If the call for Brets in made to order is loud enough, I wouldn't be surprised to see new knightly sculpts by 2018 (given production time and what not). If they're not in the works already.

Just pondering, though.

It would not surprise me if GW have new bret's somewhere deep in the development studio.

 shinros wrote:

Requizen wrote:
If the call for Brets in made to order is loud enough, I wouldn't be surprised to see new knightly sculpts by 2018 (given production time and what not). If they're not in the works already.

Just pondering, though.

It would not surprise me if GW have new bret's somewhere deep in the development studio.

Except they're now likely to be Knights of the Free People etc, etc.

 shinros wrote:

Requizen wrote:
If the call for Brets in made to order is loud enough, I wouldn't be surprised to see new knightly sculpts by 2018 (given production time and what not). If they're not in the works already.

Just pondering, though.

It would not surprise me if GW have new bret's somewhere deep in the development studio.

Why would it not surprise you? Is Bretonnia's overwhelming popularity simply oblivious to GW? Have they just been building the hype for the past 13 years and skipping them in 3 editions entirely? Get ready!! Here comes surprise Bretonnians..

GW can't make money off french history, so they're gone. That's the grim truth that really needs to be accepted about the Old World.

 Kirasu wrote:

 shinros wrote:

Requizen wrote:
If the call for Brets in made to order is loud enough, I wouldn't be surprised to see new knightly sculpts by 2018 (given production time and what not). If they're not in the works already.

Just pondering, though.

It would not surprise me if GW have new bret's somewhere deep in the development studio.

Why would it not surprise you? Is Bretonnia's overwhelming popularity simply oblivious to GW? Have they just been building the hype for the past 13 years and skipping them in 3 editions entirely? Get ready!! Here comes surprise Bretonnians..

GW can't make money off french history, so they're gone. That's the grim truth that really needs to be accepted about the Old World.

Not Brets specifically, but as unmercifulconker said, the Knight aesthetic is a staple of fantasy scenarios. While AoS has gone more comic book fantasy than high fantasy, many people would still expect to see dudes in armor on horseback, duelling with sword and lance. Probably not the same story, obviously, but the fantasy is a spot waiting to be filled.

 Kirasu wrote:

 shinros wrote:

Requizen wrote:
If the call for Brets in made to order is loud enough, I wouldn't be surprised to see new knightly sculpts by 2018 (given production time and what not). If they're not in the works already.

Just pondering, though.

It would not surprise me if GW have new bret's somewhere deep in the development studio.

Why would it not surprise you? Is Bretonnia's overwhelming popularity simply oblivious to GW? Have they just been building the hype for the past 13 years and skipping them in 3 editions entirely? Get ready!! Here comes surprise Bretonnians..

GW can't make money off french history, so they're gone. That's the grim truth that really needs to be accepted about the Old World.

This mythical rubbish needs to die off asap. Plenty of companies make money from "generic" fantasy tropes, hell plenty of companies make money from IPs that are entirely Public Domain - GW's business choices are behind the decline of WHFB as a system, not the WHF setting. GW neglected and then killed the gateway skirmish game. GW changed the rules to encourage ever larger unit sizes, then compounded that decision by making dual-kits that contained line infantry with an elite unit alternate build and sold them at elite unit prices and box sizes. GW introduced tonal inconsistencies into the background because their need for relentless catastrofiction to flog giant plastic kits didn't work with the setting as-was. GW stopped supporting events. GW rolled back their support for clubs. GW made huge chunks of the range Direct Only, preventing even retailers who wanted to from cultivating a local WHFB scene since players couldn't even buy a complete army through their FLGS.

Not one of those problems required a new setting to fix.

The setting shift was a product of three things; GW's ongoing utter failure to understand IP law(because anyone who thinks AoS is somehow more protected than WHF was is having a laugh); GW's desire to push Land Marines as a low-effort sales boost; and a group of people at the design studio who've simply been around for too long, who got bored with WHF and rather than pass on the reigns to new folk who still had passion for the setting, they chose to tear down their old work like a hungover pretentious artiste slashing limply at the previous day's paintings with a butter knife as they grope aimlessly for another bottle of wine.

If they want to shuffle a few Knights of Bretonnian origins into one of the new human factions, then by all means let them if it means we see some new things get released!

Requizen wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:

 shinros wrote:

Requizen wrote:
If the call for Brets in made to order is loud enough, I wouldn't be surprised to see new knightly sculpts by 2018 (given production time and what not). If they're not in the works already.

Just pondering, though.

It would not surprise me if GW have new bret's somewhere deep in the development studio.

Why would it not surprise you? Is Bretonnia's overwhelming popularity simply oblivious to GW? Have they just been building the hype for the past 13 years and skipping them in 3 editions entirely? Get ready!! Here comes surprise Bretonnians..

GW can't make money off french history, so they're gone. That's the grim truth that really needs to be accepted about the Old World.

Not Brets specifically, but as unmercifulconker said, the Knight aesthetic is a staple of fantasy scenarios. While AoS has gone more comic book fantasy than high fantasy, many people would still expect to see dudes in armor on horseback, duelling with sword and lance. Probably not the same story, obviously, but the fantasy is a spot waiting to be filled.

Indeed I should of been more clear I think devoted of sigmar are going to get that when they get a battle tome at some point. They just fit the whole "crusading" theme in the grand alliance order book it's noted after the stormcast take a realm gate they come in to well... "cleanse" the land restore the sigmarite faith and well we all know how warrior priests and Flagellants do that right?

They would not give the devoted of sigmar a whole new hero model if they were not going to do anything with it I am not sure if we can take anything they say on facebook seriously but when asked about seeing "more" of them GW pretty much said Soon TM. As someone who also does an army of them all they are missing gameplay wise is heavy infantry and some cavalry.

Plus I think they fit the more "High" fantasy shtick GW are going with for AOS.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Just as GW send out this post, the entire Bretonnia population appears on the distant hill.

I really do wonder if GW have anything planned for the knight aesthetic in AoS, it's a staple of fantasy, tbh I imagine free people from the Realm of Life would take up a Bretonnian like existence, would fit them well.

In Hammers of Sigmar a brief mention is made in the realm of fire of a chaos general defeating a army of 3000 knights who have a sacred river and are part of several kingdoms still resisting chaos.

So yeah, Bretonnia can pretty much pop up anywhere at this point once Free People are properly introduced.

There's also the high elves Order Draconis which has knights riding around the mortal realm using only horse and blade to fight of chaos and rally defeated kingdoms and tribes.

Not to mention the Azyrheim Lancehost which is a army out of Sigmar's realm which is composed of human, Aelf and Stormcast cavalry.

GW just needs to give the okay for the models and novels because the setting is filled with heroic knights already.

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Nuln Spearmen please

Good lord I hope not. A big Ebay auction already saw one recently go for over $2000.

That guy would probably commit suicide if he saw it for only $20 now. (laughing at chances, not suicide.)

I think I came to understand why I would like to see a Bretonnian-like faction in Age of Sigmar while playing some WoW a while back. In it, there's the normal fantasy world (Azeroth) and then one world (Outland) with all the funky things like mushroom trees and floating rocks over abysmal chasms.

As cool as I think the Stormcast Eternals are, I would love to see their interactions with the "normal" people played out more on the battlefield.
How cool would it be to have a scenario, for example, in which normal humans in their more generic fantasy setting (forests, castles) are fighting chaos streaming forth from a realmgate/portal which is represented by totally different scenery with stormcast eternals sacrificing themselves to close the gate from the other side?

I would use a generic medieval/fantasy bretonnian human faction to playing fantasy romans...

Yodhrin, as someone coming out of a relatioship with a painter and a dislike of nuking the Warhammer world I just had to exalt your post

I'd love Brets or even Empire/"Freeguild" knight making a big comeback. Pegasus knights (and those poor disfigured Demigryphs) were something not everyone liked, but they show how GW can add "special" knights to human cavalry armies. They can build on that for their cherished small units of huge things look, but a setting without human knights riding horses can't be good Fantasy. There, I said it. Disagree, but a hero on horseback is way to iconic (and more badass than someone riding a chubby lizzard with twisted feet) to ignore IMO.

And without a horse on the fiels to compare to a Juggernaught or Goregrunta or one of those demon steeds are less monstrous looking.


The writing was kind of on the wall for Brets after Nigel left and 6th turned them into peasant-whipping taskmaster caricatures (granted, from a different sort of caricature in 5th) and nobody on the team seemed excited about them, sadly.


PS: just incoherently ranting becaue I can't expand my 1500ish points Bretonnians without ebay.

I think anyone hoping for a release for their old WFB army is likely to be disappointed, I just don't think that's the way AoS is going to work. We'll be looking at new re-invented subfactions from here on out as GW look to expand the universe in a way that matches the new aesthetic rather than reviving the old fantasy armies. TBH I wouldn't be surprised if even some of the post AoS factions don't get left at one release as it seems all new all the time is the way they are going as a company now rather than the replacing of sculpts and expansion of existing armies that used to happen every release

Support for AOs seems really bad recently. When was the last real release? Sylvaneth in July???

I know we're supposed to get Arcanites soon, and Dwarves afterward, but they really need to step up the release schedule if they want to make the game interesting

Current speculation is that there was a holdup on the Tzeentch stuff, but who knows.

It's been 40k time, though, and I kind of understand it. When we had those AoS releases with TGH, Sylvaneth, Beastclaw, and Bonesplittaz in quick succession, 40k players were saying basically the same thing. They need to focus on balancing it a bit more, though.

Don't forget Silver Tower and GoreChosen as well.

That's how releases are looking to me; beginning of year AoS with 40k filler, end of the year 40k with AoS filler.

Which is fine by me as it gives my wallet a breather. (Lord have pity on me if I get into the 40k, though)

@Cromagz, I definitely agree and hope for that. New armies and expanded lore can only be for the better.

I'm have a mixed feeling of how long it's going to take to release the Free People. On one hand new humans would bring in alot of on the fence players as it's a relatable army that shows the setting does have heroic regular humans in it.

On the otherhand, there's just so much they can do with the Free People that it'd be a real shame if they rushed their release in any way amd came out as a bland army. More time and work means a greater quality.

Osorios wrote:
I think I came to understand why I would like to see a Bretonnian-like faction in Age of Sigmar while playing some WoW a while back. In it, there's the normal fantasy world (Azeroth) and then one world (Outland) with all the funky things like mushroom trees and floating rocks over abysmal chasms.

As cool as I think the Stormcast Eternals are, I would love to see their interactions with the "normal" people played out more on the battlefield.
How cool would it be to have a scenario, for example, in which normal humans in their more generic fantasy setting (forests, castles) are fighting chaos streaming forth from a realmgate/portal which is represented by totally different scenery with stormcast eternals sacrificing themselves to close the gate from the other side?

That's the thing that kills interest in AoS for me. Their had been no room in the setting for normal people and fantasy races to do anything.

When chaos warriors are the most relatable faction you messed up. Everything has been focused on these immortal spirit things in armour.

Well first, Stormcast aren't immortal spirits. They're flesh and blood humans made bigger and stronger by Sigmar's power. (Kinda like mini-ogres. Ogres themselves were thought to be the Old Ones answer to chaos, being powerful and taint resistant, but were only half-completed.)

Secondly the fantasy races and humans have been doing stuff in the background. I'll be posting the Grand Order book pics shortly in the "AoS lore" thread so you can see some examples there.

Then there's the Summer campaign, of course, which had non-Stormcast forces hold the three cities.

Stormcast are easy to describe. They are fallen warriors Valkyried by Sigmar, armored by grungni, aenarioned by uh, Sigmar? They are fantasy Pax Swiss Guard with lightning hammers instead of FORCE rifles or whatever.

Any of the old regiments of reknown would be great. I would love to reproduce my hired swords army.

Baron Klatz wrote:
Well first, Stormcast aren't immortal spirits. They're flesh and blood humans made bigger and stronger by Sigmar's power. (Kinda like mini-ogres. Ogres themselves were thought to be the Old Ones answer to chaos, being powerful and taint resistant, but were only half-completed.)

Secondly the fantasy races and humans have been doing stuff in the background. I'll be posting the Grand Order book pics shortly in the "AoS lore" thread so you can see some examples there.

Then there's the Summer campaign, of course, which had non-Stormcast forces hold the three cities.

I can't wait for your post.

Sorry, almost ready to post it but Photobucket is a most cumbersome beast.

Requizen wrote:
Current speculation is that there was a holdup on the Tzeentch stuff, but who knows.

It's been 40k time, though, and I kind of understand it. When we had those AoS releases with TGH, Sylvaneth, Beastclaw, and Bonesplittaz in quick succession, 40k players were saying basically the same thing. They need to focus on balancing it a bit more, though.

Yup. The balance of releases since the launch of AOS has been poor. Too much time on Stormcast and Khorne, then just a week each for sylvaneth and ironjawz, then 5 months and counting without a new battletome. If they moved deathwatch forward and then put the two destruction battletomes in the middle it would be a bit better. Hopefully they can plan next year a bit more carefully.