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We all know the inquisition can do what ever it wants, but dose that extend outside the IoM? Can they exploit resources of the eldar, tau, orks, that one race that never gets detailed? Do they get in trouble for doing it?

Ordos Xenos. They are the anti-alien force withing the Inquisition. They will not only use alien technology but aliens themselves as allies. However, each of the three factions of the Inquisition are split into two sub-factions.
In the Xenos: those for the use of aliens and their tech to destroy them vs those who would see all aliens and their tech destroyed at all costs.
Hereticus: those who would use the power of the warp to destroy witches and their cults vs those who despise all pykers and believe they must all burn no matter the cost.
Mallus: those who would seek to use the warp and its creatures to destroy those who they feel use it incorrectly vs those who would destroy all and anything warp related at all costs.

~minus astropaths and such.

They can hire mercenaries ( Eldar, Orks ), Ordo Xenos even had several Eldar alliances.

Brother Coa wrote:They can hire mercenaries ( Eldar, Orks ), Ordo Xenos even had several Eldar alliances.

For example, Ravenor was allied with Eldar one time. Later he used wraithbone crystals to track his team psychically.

Depends on the Inquisitor. Some hardcore puritan might destroy every single piece of alien/ heretical technology he can while his more radical fellow might have no qualms about hiring Kroot mercenaries
while he prods his daemonhost with a captured witchblade

The Officio Assassinorum also has a secret vault of forbidden and/or alien weapons.

Harriticus wrote:The Officio Assassinorum also has a secret vault of forbidden and/or alien weapons.

Like almost every Inquisitorial Fortress

In one of the Cain books, i seem to recall Amberly Using a Tau Pistol.

Yes, when it is necessary and/or when the Inquisitor in question becomes a radical.

And theres the whole Necron thingymajig.

They will use alien technology, but for the purpose of using it against other aliens

I always wondered why the IoM feared xenos technology.

Other than being a defacto admission of the superiority of the xenos weapon, I can't see why they aren't more readily used as long as there is no connection to chaos.

Then again, maybe I answered my own question...

So radicals are secretive and hunted down across the board? I recall some guy in the witch hunters codex that was tasked to hunt down a guy who was deemed a radical. I think the hunter was the guy in that large mech throne thingy.

@Uhlan

I imagine it's something as simple as the powers that be are racist and xenophobic, and don't want any outside influences on their people. You worship the emprah or die a heretic and all that.

No, there's no law against being a Radical... to a point. However, certain Puritan Inquisitors will condemn Radical Inquisitors right off the bat, and since Inquisitors can command entire legions of military resources...

... well, there have been less-costly Crusades for the Imperium than when 2 Inquisitors go to war via proxies.

Uhlan wrote:I always wondered why the IoM feared xenos technology.

Other than being a defacto admission of the superiority of the xenos weapon, I can't see why they aren't more readily used as long as there is no connection to chaos.

Then again, maybe I answered my own question...

Even with out the xeno hatred. Using alien weapons would be problematic because you can't make them yourself. You would end up having to be nice and have good relations with the xenos and wouldn't be able to kill them off like you wanted.

Unless it's a digi-weapon, which is, in fact, made by xeno hands (the Jokaero), and can be (relatively) easily replaced, repaired, reloaded, or whatever.

The Haywire grenade, commonly used by Space Marines, is an example of reverse-engineered xeno technology, being that it is Eldar in origin.

Many Radical Inquisitors... to say nothing of their Rogue Trader allies and contacts... make regular trade with the xeno, receiving all manner of arms and armor (shuriken rifles, pulse guns, mirror-scale armor, and so forth) in exchange for... whatever it is the Inquisitor or RT trades to them.

Psienesis wrote:Unless it's a digi-weapon, which is, in fact, made by xeno hands (the Jokaero), and can be (relatively) easily replaced, repaired, reloaded, or whatever.

Jokaero are actually NOT sapient beings.

They are animals that are able to make complex machinery, nothing more.


Having a Jokaero make weaponry for you is no different to having a trained attack dog.

During the Hive Fleet attack on Tarsis Ultra, the Inquisitor (Kryptman, I believe) took a Tyranid pistol and modified it to kill the Norn Queen. He sent some Deathwatch, led by Uriel Ventris to carry out the deed.

Iur_tae_mont wrote:During the Hive Fleet attack on Tarsis Ultra, the Inquisitor (Kryptman, I believe) took a Tyranid pistol and modified it to kill the Norn Queen. He sent some Deathwatch, led by Uriel Ventris to carry out the deed.

Huh?!

No he didnt, he had a normal pistol with a Hrud component added to it (that mixes both the technologies of Plasma and Melta into a single beam) so that it can penetrate the skin/hide of the Norn Queen when they reach her/it.

Yeah, uh, using a Tyranid weapon without being a Tyranid is kind of hard, since they are fused to the host organism and fire based on mind impulse.

Revenent Reiko wrote:

Iur_tae_mont wrote:During the Hive Fleet attack on Tarsis Ultra, the Inquisitor (Kryptman, I believe) took a Tyranid pistol and modified it to kill the Norn Queen. He sent some Deathwatch, led by Uriel Ventris to carry out the deed.

Huh?!

No he didnt, he had a normal pistol with a Hrud component added to it (that mixes both the technologies of Plasma and Melta into a single beam) so that it can penetrate the skin/hide of the Norn Queen when they reach her/it.

I'm going to have to reread Warriors of Ultramar, because I don't remember any mention of Hrud. I do remember ventris complaining it wouldn't fit into a holster and that it had organic bits on it.

He complains it doesnt fit into his holster (made for a Bolt Pistol IIRC, and the pistol he is given is smaller) but he also complains that he doesnt like using Xenos tech. Theres no mention of organics...unless its some of the Lictor that splashed back .

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hrud

Extract:

This mysterious nocturnal species were also the creators of Hrud fusils that were a warp-plasma based weapon.7-p64 Fusils remain one of the few scant artefacts of the Hrud that occassionaly come up for sale in the Imperium and were also in high demand. In functionality, they worked as a form of "plasma musket" that uses an unfathomable mechanism to phase a plasma bolt between realspace and the warp. Thus, any shot from a Hrud fussil bypassed by defences of the target though they were unpredictable

I swear it used to say it was a mixture of Plasma and Melta though....hmmm

Inquisitor valeria in the gk book has all sorts of alien gadgets, specially with eldar origins.

Revenent Reiko wrote:He complains it doesnt fit into his holster (made for a Bolt Pistol IIRC, and the pistol he is given is smaller) but he also complains that he doesnt like using Xenos tech. Theres no mention of organics...unless its some of the Lictor that splashed back .

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hrud

Extract:

This mysterious nocturnal species were also the creators of Hrud fusils that were a warp-plasma based weapon.7-p64 Fusils remain one of the few scant artefacts of the Hrud that occassionaly come up for sale in the Imperium and were also in high demand. In functionality, they worked as a form of "plasma musket" that uses an unfathomable mechanism to phase a plasma bolt between realspace and the warp. Thus, any shot from a Hrud fussil bypassed by defences of the target though they were unpredictable

I swear it used to say it was a mixture of Plasma and Melta though....hmmm

Ok now I know I read it wrong(or I'm remembering it wrong). Because I thought he complained it was too big.

Having a Jokaero make weaponry for you is no different to having a trained attack dog.

Maybe if your attack dog could compute theoretical physics?

Just because they are non-sapient does not mean they are not xeno. They're accepted by the Imperium because, being that the Jokaero do not seem to be sapient, they are considered to be incapable of duplicity, treacherousness, and hatred of the human form, as other xenos are known to be. Thus, they're an "acceptable" xeno species. I am quite certain that, should the Jokaero begin to develop culture and sapience, showing signs of higher intelligence, this situation will not last.

Psienesis wrote:

Having a Jokaero make weaponry for you is no different to having a trained attack dog.

Maybe if your attack dog could compute theoretical physics?

Just because they are non-sapient does not mean they are not xeno. They're accepted by the Imperium because, being that the Jokaero do not seem to be sapient, they are considered to be incapable of duplicity, treacherousness, and hatred of the human form, as other xenos are known to be. Thus, they're an "acceptable" xeno species. I am quite certain that, should the Jokaero begin to develop culture and sapience, showing signs of higher intelligence, this situation will not last.

Well, "Xenos" is used to describe non-earth origin sapients. They actually fit neither catagory as the Jokaero are actually oraungutans that the old ones took and gave the ability to create advanced miniature weaponry, but they are nothing more then animals in other regards.

Thus, they are no different from using other animals. and they are most certaintly millions of years away from even beginning to evolve higher intellect.

I think they're just described as orange and ape-like, compared to Orangutans, I don't think they are actual, Terra-based orangutans.

As far as being millions of years away from developing higher intellect... well, they said the same about the Tau.

"Their physical resemblance to orang-utan's of ancient Earth led to some speculation that the Slann may have genetically manipulated the species as they are known to had visited the planet on numerous occasions.1-p196"

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Jokaero

Yes... speculation.

I am speculating that they're not. They're Space Apes. Apes from Another World. They are from a place where it is a Grim World of Apey Adventures.... and Digital Weapon Construction.

With the Slann thing... well, they've been all but written out of the background fluff so... their influence grows less and less with each passing edition. They've been pretty much subsumed by the Old Ones, though the Slann may have been ret-conned into a "descendant race" of the Old Ones.