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This is mainly due to the fact of the mystery of the Chapter. They themselves do not know what chapter they got their geneseed from, and because of that they do not "worship" a primarch.
So, what do you guys think of the Blood Ravens?

I think Relic have pretty terrible writers.

My personal favorite chapter.
Gabriel Angelos is just EPIC character.

I like the fact that they "might" be a successor chapter of the original Thousand Sons and that the fact that their battle tactics are sort of unique that they make heavy use of librarians to make calculated strikes that and their armor looks kind of cool

Given how terrible a cliché 'loyalist descendants of the traitor legions' really is, Relic (and, throne preserve us, Goto) haven't done a bad job with them.

Of course it's not a patch on the subtle way Forge World have invited the reader to draw inferences about the origins of the Carcharodons (and maybe also the Minotaurs).

Not knowing any of the novels, nor the storyline of DoW II, I do really like what I do know about the Blood Ravens. I do not think the 'geneseed-from-a-traitor-legion' thing is too awful, although I do not think it adds too much, either.

Their colour scheme is quite awesome, too.

@EA: FW do? How?

Ive beaten both the DoW games and i never saw any mention of them being from the thousand sons. Where in the game did you all get this?

I think the mystery thing is pointless...
If it does turn out they are TS successors what are they gpnna do with it? Nothing that's what.
If they get found out they'll be exterminated, they already fight chaos so hunting them isn't especially different...
Kinda pointless.

I still like the mystery aspect.

Skal098 wrote:Ive beaten both the DoW games and i never saw any mention of them being from the thousand sons. Where in the game did you all get this?

The speculation that Blood Ravens are an offshoot of TS comes from some text in a HH novel or maybe short story(I forget which one). Just mentioning this, however, is bound to attract random opponents to the theory.

Prepare yourself.

Ronin-Sage wrote:

Skal098 wrote:Ive beaten both the DoW games and i never saw any mention of them being from the thousand sons. Where in the game did you all get this?

The speculation that Blood Ravens are an offshoot of TS comes from some text in a HH novel or maybe short story(I forget which one). Just mentioning this, however, is bound to attract random opponents to the theory.

Prepare yourself.

It's in a HH Audiobook.
There is also some mention in the DoW books but they have largely been refuted because they suck.

And riding on a horse Kanulwen will come to destroy this theory.

Blood ravens are cool but nowhere near my top 5 probably my top 15. but not my top 5.

Asherian Command wrote:And riding on a horse Kanulwen will come to destroy this theory.

Blood ravens are cool but nowhere near my top 5 probably my top 15. but not my top 5.

Lets just wait then

I heard about the ts succesor and the only way that it would be inderstandable is if they don't destroy loyalists from heretic chapters which I have heard nothing regarding if they do or don't.

I to am a fan of the mystery surrounding the chapter and also believe they may come from the thousand sons....but let's face it, relic and GW will probably never disclose their origin(which I doubt they even havent decided)

Blood ravens are my all time favorite chapter hands down. Their colors are epic, and I started 40k because of DoW 1

and

GABRIEL IS BOSS

bombboy1252 wrote:Blood ravens are my all time favorite chapter hands down. Their colors are epic, and I started 40k because of DoW 1

and

GABRIEL IS BOSS

Unless you finish one of the non-SM campaigns in DoW2: Retribution.

forruner_mercy wrote:

bombboy1252 wrote:Blood ravens are my all time favorite chapter hands down. Their colors are epic, and I started 40k because of DoW 1

and

GABRIEL IS BOSS

Unless you finish one of the non-SM campaigns in DoW2: Retribution.

I just beat the SM campaign, Planned on doing CSM campaign next.

Still wont change the fact the gabriel is beast though

forruner_mercy wrote:

bombboy1252 wrote:Blood ravens are my all time favorite chapter hands down. Their colors are epic, and I started 40k because of DoW 1

and

GABRIEL IS BOSS

Unless you finish one of the non-SM campaigns in DoW2: Retribution.

Supposedly it's canon that Gabriel lives and becomes the chapter master.

Kazerkinelite wrote:

forruner_mercy wrote:

bombboy1252 wrote:Blood ravens are my all time favorite chapter hands down. Their colors are epic, and I started 40k because of DoW 1

and

GABRIEL IS BOSS

Unless you finish one of the non-SM campaigns in DoW2: Retribution.

Supposedly it's canon that Gabriel lives and becomes the chapter master.

which is awesome and finally they are lead by a non-pysker

I would just point out that for a chapter supposedly with a large number of psykers, you don't see very many of them in the DoW games.

I never understood some of the hate for the Blood Ravens. I mean, I get hating the Ultramarines, cause they really are kind of boring, but the Raven's aren't that bad.

Skal098 wrote:Ive beaten both the DoW games and i never saw any mention of them being from the thousand sons. Where in the game did you all get this?

It's implied in A Thousand Sons for one.

Some woman whose name I forget had a premonition, which was: "The Ravens. I see them too. The lost sons and a Raven of blood. They cry out for salvation and knowledge, but it is denied!"

Not to mention the general similarities to the Thousand Sons legion, high number of powerful psykers, similar armour to the Corvidae, the whole "Knowledge is power, guard it well" thing.

LordofHats wrote:I would just point out that for a chapter supposedly with a large number of psykers, you don't see very many of them in the DoW games.

I never understood some of the hate for the Blood Ravens. I mean, I get hating the Ultramarines, cause they really are kind of boring, but the Raven's aren't that bad.

It's probably just for gameplay reasons, I mean you can't have all the marines shooting lightning bolts out of their hands.

I don't know why anyone would hate the blood ravens, their relics own chapter, and I think they have done a lot of cool things with them over the course of the games. Which I don't understand why they went with ultramarines in space marine. At least blood ravens were represented in that game though.

The blood ravens are pretty cool, my personal favorite are the Crimson Fists

Kazerkinelite wrote:

LordofHats wrote:I would just point out that for a chapter supposedly with a large number of psykers, you don't see very many of them in the DoW games.

I never understood some of the hate for the Blood Ravens. I mean, I get hating the Ultramarines, cause they really are kind of boring, but the Raven's aren't that bad.

It's probably just for gameplay reasons, I mean you can't have all the marines shooting lightning bolts out of their hands.

I don't know why anyone would hate the blood ravens, their relics own chapter, and I think they have done a lot of cool things with them over the course of the games. Which I don't understand why they went with ultramarines in space marine. At least blood ravens were represented in that game though.

Space marines campaign would have been cooler if you were a blood raven, and not an ultramarine

bombboy1252 wrote:

Kazerkinelite wrote:

LordofHats wrote:I would just point out that for a chapter supposedly with a large number of psykers, you don't see very many of them in the DoW games.

I never understood some of the hate for the Blood Ravens. I mean, I get hating the Ultramarines, cause they really are kind of boring, but the Raven's aren't that bad.

It's probably just for gameplay reasons, I mean you can't have all the marines shooting lightning bolts out of their hands.

I don't know why anyone would hate the blood ravens, their relics own chapter, and I think they have done a lot of cool things with them over the course of the games. Which I don't understand why they went with ultramarines in space marine. At least blood ravens were represented in that game though.

Space marines campaign would have been cooler if you were a blood raven, and not an ultramarine

How would it have made any difference whatsoever?

What i don't get it..so, the ships of the 1ksons retreat out of the system shortly before prospero gets destroyed on orders of magnus.
So, some might have survived...and then?!
"Hi there, we are the Blood ravens. Don't mind that there is no record of us or our ships (i guess they did it car-thief style and removed all the markings on every parts that could've been tracked back to the 1ksons"), just add us to the good guy list, mkayyyy?"
Or prolly more like "This is not the legion you are looking for *waves hand*"..

I mean, don't get me wrong, i like the BR and all fluff bits you get fed about them, but seriously..if you think about it, HOW does the rest of a legion who just got declared the enemy get on the good-guy list? Where does the geneseed come from and why does noone see the gene-similarities to the 1ksons?
And most of all: Why didn't they succumb to the flesh-turn? Magnus' deal ran out, and it's not like that only affected prospero (or so you'ld think when the deal is with a chaos-god ).

I mean, it would explain their "fleet based"-ness, but still..i think its a really weak start..

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iDevour wrote:What i don't get it..so, the ships of the 1ksons retreat out of the system shortly before prospero gets destroyed on orders of magnus.
So, some might have survived...and then?!
"Hi there, we are the Blood ravens. Don't mind that there is no record of us or our ships (i guess they did it car-thief style and removed all the markings on every parts that could've been tracked back to the 1ksons"), just add us to the good guy list, mkayyyy?"
Or prolly more like "This is not the legion you are looking for *waves hand*"..

I mean, don't get me wrong, i like the BR and all fluff bits you get fed about them, but seriously..if you think about it, HOW does the rest of a legion who just got declared the enemy get on the good-guy list? Where does the geneseed come from and why does noone see the gene-similarities to the 1ksons?
And most of all: Why didn't they succumb to the flesh-turn? Magnus' deal ran out, and it's not like that only affected prospero (or so you'ld think when the deal is with a chaos-god ).

I mean, it would explain their "fleet based"-ness, but still..i think its a really weak start..

do you even know how desperate the Imperium was right after the Heresy? they probably would have welcomed back Abbadon... and sent him as far away from Terra as possible.

gabrielhorus wrote:

iDevour wrote:What i don't get it..so, the ships of the 1ksons retreat out of the system shortly before prospero gets destroyed on orders of magnus.
So, some might have survived...and then?!
"Hi there, we are the Blood ravens. Don't mind that there is no record of us or our ships (i guess they did it car-thief style and removed all the markings on every parts that could've been tracked back to the 1ksons"), just add us to the good guy list, mkayyyy?"
Or prolly more like "This is not the legion you are looking for *waves hand*"..

I mean, don't get me wrong, i like the BR and all fluff bits you get fed about them, but seriously..if you think about it, HOW does the rest of a legion who just got declared the enemy get on the good-guy list? Where does the geneseed come from and why does noone see the gene-similarities to the 1ksons?
And most of all: Why didn't they succumb to the flesh-turn? Magnus' deal ran out, and it's not like that only affected prospero (or so you'ld think when the deal is with a chaos-god ).

I mean, it would explain their "fleet based"-ness, but still..i think its a really weak start..

do you even know how desperate the Imperium was right after the Heresy? they probably would have welcomed back Abbadon... and sent him as far away from Terra as possible.

Are you Trollin? I mean that's ridiculous.