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I'm making this list to verse a 2000pt skaven army. The skaven guy has 6 rat ogres an abomination and 40 stormvermin. (He has other stuff too)

Lords:
Crone Hellebron 350pts

Heroes:
Sorceress
LvL 2
Tome of Furion
Dark Star Cloak
175pts

Sorceress 195pts
lvl 2
Dispel scroll
Sacrificial dagger


Core:
Repeater Crossbowmen 240pts (22)
FC

Corsairs 350pts (30)
FC
Sea Serpent Banner

Assassin 130pts (1)
Dark Venom
Touch Of Death

Special:
Shades 80pts (5)

Cold One Knights 345pts (10)
FC
Standard of Hag Graef

Cold One Chariot 100pts (1)

Rare:
War Hydra 175pts

1980pts

Ah... the only reason to take Hellebron is for a full-blown Khainite list, with lots of Witches backed up by Executioners and Cauldron(s). For anything else, she is WAY overpriced.

Upgrade the SacDagg L2 to a tooled-out Supreme Sorceress instead, probably with Lore of Shadow, and give the other L2 Dark Lore. There are some awesome synergies between the two lores. Use the points saved to get a Death Hag with a Cauldron, and make her a BSB. The various blessings are well worth it.

Bad news for your sorceress builds - you may only have one arcane item each.

A big block of RXBs want to have shields, so they can function as a secondary close combat block. They are also a trifle expensive to be sacrificing, don't you think?

Aside from those relatively small things, it's not a bad list.

would it be easier for me to tell you what I have?



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Here it is (rough amounts)
All special characters (except morathi)
Dreadlord on Black Dragon (Malekith model)
Cauldron of Blood
atleast 2 sorceresses
Possibly another Dreadlord or 2
Core:
Around 30 warriors (maybe more maybe less)
22 crossbowmen
40-50 corsairs
2 assassins
Special:
5 or 10 shades
8 witch hags
10-13 cold one riders
1-2 cold one chariots
Rare:
2 Hydras
2 Repeater bolt-throwers

Drop the assassin and Hellebron, buy 10+ naked warriors as 'power dice' every other unit is too expensive to waste.
Have a SuSorc (Shadow) and a L2 ToF (Dark)
Hag Graef is not worth it on CoKs because they are already attacking before skaven afaik.
Cut the chariot out, it is stupid and slower everything else in the book, barring war machines.
I would also want to make room for a second hydra and some more shades because I'm a git.

The reason for BoHG on the COK is to get the Cold Ones to attack early, and give the Knights rerolls pretty much all the time.

Besides, Skaven have surprisingly high initiatives. The Stormvermin in particular I know are I5, which matches the initiative of the COK.

However, COK with command are going to be too big a chuck of your army points. He's going to have a HUGE mass of troops; COK will get slaughter them in droves on the charge, stall out, then get ground away unless they have very heavy infantry support.

Try level 3, or level 4 sorc, with lore of death.
LD9 vs Ld7 with the default sniper spell gives you a very good shot at taking out the general, or the BSB.

I've used both successfully with either the flying carpet (staying near infantry for the 4+ look out roll before ward saves), or the Focus familiar for the extra range.

Once the general and bsb have been dealt with, you'll find that skaven can fail those steadfast checks.

-Matt


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Oh, assassin in the shades running lose the backfield is pretty solid too.
I'd just run him ulta-cheap though; extra hand weapon and nothing else.

-Matt