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Just thought it'd be cool to have a thread about all the random things you've learned about this very weird world of ours, either going on now, or from history...


There's an underground coal fire in Centralia, Pennsylvania that's been burning for nearly 50 years, slowly working it's way through the chute. The fumes seep through the ground and cause all kinds of health risks. Most people have accepted government help to move on but there's a few holdouts.

In South Africa a portion of the population has Indigenous Australian ancestry. During the course of the Boer War Australia sent a number of Aboriginals over to serve as trackers, but during their service Australia became it's own Federation, and unofficially began the White Australia policy. This meant they were not allowed to return to their own country, and ended up just becoming another part of the ethnic mix of Australia.

Isaac Newton inserted a letter opener into his eye socket, just to see what would happen. He took notes and everything. Science!

From a lecture by David McCullough;
"Once upon a time in the dead of winter in the Dakota Territory, Theodore Roosevelt took off in a makeshift boat down the Little Missouri River in pursuit of a couple of thieves who had stolen his prized rowboat. After several days on the river, he caught up and got the draw on them with his trusty Winchester, at which point they surrendered. Then Roosevelt set off in a borrowed wagon to haul the thieves cross-country to justice. They headed across the snow-covered wastes of the Badlands to the railhead at Dickinson, and Roosevelt walked the whole way, the entire 40 miles. It was an astonishing feat, what might be called a defining moment in Roosevelt’s eventful life. But what makes it especially memorable is that during that time, he managed to read all of Anna Karenina. I often think of that when I hear people say they haven’t time to read."

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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That Roosevelt story is great.

There's some pics of Centralia here : http://www.dirjournal.com/info/abandoned-places-in-the-world/

..how spooky does that place in the Ukraine look eh !

..and it's been doing the round for a wee while now


The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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The Centralia thing is amazing - Bill Bryson wrote about it in one of his travelogue books. You can have a nosey around via the wonder of Google Street View if you so chose.

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filbert wrote:The Centralia thing is amazing - Bill Bryson wrote about it in one of his travelogue books. You can have a nosey around via the wonder of Google Street View if you so chose.


I used to go 4 wheeling there a few years ago. The best time to go is in the winter when the ground smokes.


 
   
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In the Karakum desert in Turkmenistan, a massive 60m wide gas crater has been burning for 40 years.

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Roosevelt was also shot while doing a campaign speech and didn't take any medical attention until he was finished with the speech...

The guy also lost vision in his left eye after a boxing match and didn't tell anyone until right before he died. He was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor in 2001 for his participation in the Spanish American War and he is the only president to have won both the MoH and the Nobel Peace prize for his efforts to stop the Russo Japanese war.



   
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Probably need to put a ban on Teddy Roosevelt history, or we'd just give out Teddy Roosevelt history.


0.5% of the world are direct line descendants from Ghengis Khan, as they share his Y chromosone.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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sebster wrote:
Isaac Newton inserted a letter opener into his eye socket, just to see what would happen. He took notes and everything. Science!


Not to be pedantic, but it was a bodkin, a kind of blunt needle used in embroidery and other needlecrafts.

As for my favourite story, a true story from WWII
The germans got word from their espionage campaigns that the British forces were developing a means to detect underwater craft from the surface by infra-red. So they spent a ridiculous amount of time and money developing a special type of black paint that contained thousands of glass beads that would render a submarine invisible to infra-red detection (with the glass beads scattering the IR beams or something, I can't remember the exact science). They then painted all their submarines with this special paint.

The unfortunate thing is that the brits weren't developing infra-red, they were developing sonar, so the paint was useless...

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Probably not exactly in the direction this thread is headed, but I like it anyway, so here goes;

Aokigahara is a forest at the base of Mt. Fuji in Japan. It has the 2nd highest annual suicide rate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aokigahara

In Dante Aligheri's Divine Comedy, while traversing the 7th ring, he stumbles upon a forest. The trees in the forest turn out to be people who died by suicide. Since they denied their body in life, they aren't allowed one in the afterlife. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_%28Dante%29#Seventh_Circle_.28Violence.29

Interesting little coincidence, no?

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reds8n wrote:
There's some pics of Centralia here : http://www.dirjournal.com/info/abandoned-places-in-the-world/


That is a very interesting link, and it includes a real live Hive City: Kowloon. Awesome. I wonder if they had problems with giant mutant rats.

We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".

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Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.

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Held off an army for almost a hour on his own.

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Yep, got stabbed up the arse by an Englishman. Fighting fair is for losers.


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Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.

But then England was taken by French people.



And let's face it. That Englishman was at least smart enough to realize a Norseman's only mortal weakness is his sack.

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For the world fact, I'm going to go with the Exploding killer lakes. I wish I was kidding.

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Shadowbrand wrote:But then England was taken by French people.



And let's face it. That Englishman was at least smart enough to realize a Norseman's only mortal weakness is his sack.


Not French; Norman. Normans were essentially an breed of Viking, Gaul, and the native French population of the land they captured.

There is a difference, and our pride demands that we point it out.

Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.

Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.

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Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.

Of course I know that! Their still -French- Albeit half Viking, which basically means even though Hardrada lost, the Norse still won.

I wouldn't post that fugly "Troll" face if I was serious.

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Third Viking, third Gaul, third French.

And I know, but I wouldn't be a true Englishmen if I didn't point it out regardless of the troll face.

Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.

Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.

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Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.

Gaul= Roman Era France right?

Wouldn't that make them Frankish?

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Frankly, i'm not bothered. (I am so, so sorry.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallo-Roman

Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.

Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.

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Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.

-Shrug-

Guess I got reading to do tonight.

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In your base, ignoring your logic.

In an interesting story from the Vietnam Era.

Two F-4 Phantom pilots were flying a mission over enemy territory and both were damaged by enemy AA fire, one received damage to his fuel tank and the other had a damaged engine. The one who had a damaged tank was quickly running out of fuel and would then have to eject into enemy territory, instead of letting that happen Bob Pardo told the other pilot to lower his tail hook and to cut his engines. Pardo then used his own jet and maneuvered behind the other plane and pushed it along using his windscreen, every so often it would slip off and Pardo would then get back into position and continue pushing the other jet. They did this for 88 miles before Pardo's jet ran out of fuel(he had shut down one of his engines which was on fire by that time as well) and both pilots and their backseaters ejected in Laos airspace. They then managed to evade capture and returned back to their own lines... this act of courage was rewarded with a court marshal for Pardo for failure to save his own aircraft. Almost twenty years later he finally got a Silver Star.

After the war he found out that the pilot he had saved had Lou Gehrig's disease and had lost his voice. Pardo raised the money to buy the pilot a voice synthesizer, a motorized wheelchair, and a computer.
   
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Leigen_Zero wrote:Not to be pedantic, but it was a bodkin, a kind of blunt needle used in embroidery and other needlecrafts.


Ah, thanks for the correction. The story I read said it was a bodkin, but for some reason it popped into my head that that was a letter opener, so I just used that when I wrote the story here. Thanks, your correction kind of makes the story weirder...


Anyway, back with the weird stories, in ancient Athens there was a drive to stop female infanticide by exposure. Not because it was bad to kill babies, but because brothel owners were picking up the girls and turning them into prostitutes - people were worried they might accidentally anger the Gods by committing incest. The simple solution was to just drown the girls instead.


In the wake of their defeat in the American Civil War, a number of Confederates thought it better to flee to Brazil than admit that the North won. Some never returned to the US, and so to this day there are still festivals in Brazil in which people display Confederate flags and dress as mid-19th century American Southerners would. What's delightful about all this is that the community are all native Brazilian Portuguese speakers.


Some deaf kids in Nicuragua developed an entirely new language in the 1970s. These kids didn't know any other sign language and were unable to communicate with anyone else, so they took them out of regular classes and stuck them all in a room together, where upon they began to develop their own language, complete with grammar rules and a wide vocabulary. Linguists are studying the hell out of this as an emergent language that's developed as we've observed it.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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Jack Malcolm Thorpe Fleming Churchill graduated from Sandhurst Military Academy in 1926 and joined the storied Manchester Regiment of the British Army. He spent his first few years in the army riding his motorcycle across the entire Indian subcontinent (both the paved and the unpaved paths) just for the hell of it and learning to play the bagpipes despite the fact that he was about as Scottish as Shaka Zulu. After about ten years of doing crazy gak in the army, Jack Churchill retired. In his time off he worked as a newspaper editor, a professional male model and a movie extra, all the while honing his skill at archery and bagpiping on the side. He even represented England in the Archery World Championships in 1939. But guys like Jack Churchill aren't satisfied just by being a bizarre mesh of Robin Hood and Derek Zoolander, so he re-enlisted. And in the early months of 1940, he had his opportunity to prove himself as a distinguished, if not slightly eccentric, officer of the British Army.
He had been shipped to France to arseist the rest of the British Expeditionary Force in their mission to reinforce the Maginot Line, but not long after Churchill arrived Hitler decided to send his legions to seriously gak up France and the Brits found themselves right in the middle of a raging gakstorm. The British troops were being pushed back towards the sea by the unstoppable Blitzkrieg, doing whatever they could to stall the Germans' relentless advance.
Well Jack Churchill had some ideas. He not only refused to give ground, but he launched small-scale guerrilla raids and surprise attacks on German positions and supply depots. Riding his trusty motorcycle and armed only with a mothergaking bow and arrow and a Scottish broadsword, he would arseault the Germans, catch them completely off-guard, and gak their gak up medieval-style. When asked by a fellow officer why Churchill insisted on carrying the broadsword into battle with him, he responded, "In my opinion, sir, any officer who goes into action without his sword is improperly dressed".

Despite being shot in the gaking neck by a German machine gun, "Mad Jack" Churchill (as he came to be known) battled throughout the Dunkirk campaign, at one point even winning the Military Cross for bravery when he rescued a wounded British officer from a German ambush -- probably by swinging in on a rope, stabbing a Nazi officer in the chest with his sword and then beating up another eight guys with his bare hands, but that's just a guess.
After Dunkirk, Jack returned to England and promptly signed up to be a member of a new organization known as the Commandos. He wasn't sure what a Commando was, but he was excited about the prospect of kicking German arsees, so he couldn't resist. He was promptly put through the grueling training regimen of the British Special Forces, and he loved every minute of it.
When his training was completed, he took part in the daring amphibious arseault on the German base in Vaagso, Norway. As the leader of Number 2 Commando, Churchill was responsible for taking out the artillery batteries on Maaloy Island. As the landing craft raced towards their LZ, he belted out "The March of the Cameron Men" on the bagpipes to pump up his men and prove to everyone how awesome he was. When the arseault ramp swung open, he fearlessly waded through knee-deep water out at the head of his men, with his trusty blade lofted high in the air, screaming "COOMMAAAAAAANNNNDOOOO!!!!!" at the top of his lungs. Two hours later, British High Command received a telegram from the front:
Maaloy battery and island captured. Casualties slight. Demolitions in progress. Churchill."
During the British landing at Salerno, he won another award for bravery. His squad was charged with taking out an artillery battery that was pinning down a nearby British force, despite the fact that the town of Piegoletti (where the guns were based) was garrisoned by a force much larger than his own Number 2 Commando. Well Churchill was like, "gak that". In the middle of the night, he had his men charge the town from all sides, screaming "COOMMAAANNNNDOOO!!!" as loud as possible. The Germans were confused and surprised, and mounted a futile resistance. The 50 men of Number 2 Commando took 136 prisoners and inflicted an unknown number of casualties.
But that wasn't even the most balls out thing Mad Jack did on that campaign. One night, he single-handedly took forty-two German prisoners and captured a mortar crew using only his broadsword. He simply took one patrolling guard as a human shield and went around from sentry post to sentry post, sneaking up on the guards and then shoving his sword in their faces until they surrendered. His response when asked about how he was able to capture so many soldiers so easily:
"I maintain that, as long as you tell a German loudly and clearly what to do, if you are senior to him he will cry 'jawohl' (yes sir) and get on with it enthusiastically and efficiently whatever the situation."
Now if that's not hardcore, then nothing is.
Churchill continued to lead his men in action against the German forces in Yugoslavia, but was eventually captured by the enemy while fighting for Point 622 on the island of Brac in the Adriatic Sea, when every man in his Commando team was killed or wounded and all of his revolver ammunition ran out. Knowing that he was not going to escape, and having no further means of killing Nazis, Jack started playing sad songs on his bagpipes until he was finally knocked unconscious by a frag grenade and taken off to the Sachsenhausen Concentration Camp.



But it would take more than some gaking concentration camp to hold Jack Churchill. One night in September of 1944, he escaped the camp by crawling under barbed wire and through and abandoned drain. He was later recaptured while walking towards the Baltic coast and shipped off to a prison camp in Austria.
This too would prove to be insufficient to hold Jack, however. When the camp lighting failed one night in April 1945, he dropped his shovel and walked away from work detail. He marched 150 miles through the treacherous terrain of the Alps, "liberating" vegetables he found along the way, until finally he met up with a U.S. Armored column and was sent back to England.
Unfortunately, the war was pretty much over at this point. He expressed interest in fighting the Japanese, but as his train was pulling into the station in Burma he received word that the atomic bomb had been dropped on Hiroshima and the Pacific Campaign would soon be over.
However, Jack's adventures weren't finished yet. At the age of 40, he qualified as a paratrooper and completed jump school. He went on to serve in action in Palestine, where he earned fame for defending a Jewish medical convoy from an Arab ambush - radioing for backup and providing small-arms fire while wearing his full military dress uniform. Another time he and twelve other men evacuated a hospital full of Israeli medical personnel when they came under attack by Arab rockets.
After Palestine, Churchill went on to serve as an instructor at a land-air warfare school in Australia and become a hardcore surfer. He even designed and built his own surfboards. He retired from the army in 1959, recipient of two awards for bravery.
I love eccentric badarsees, and "Mad Jack" Churchill (also known as "Fighting Jack" Churchill) is about as eccentric as they come. It takes a special kind of badarse to carry a bow and arrow to a gunfight, to scream at the top of his lungs in the face of oncoming machine gun fire, and to capture a mortar team using nothing but a sword and a little bit of ingenuity. The guy was always looking for adventure, never backed away from a fight, and was pretty much insane to the point of being a total badarse.

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The idea of carrots improving your eyesight is a myth created by the British government during WWII.

The RAF was severely outnumbered and their only way of staying effective was the advantage that radar gave them. If the Jerries found out about the radar towers, they would quickly destroy them and gain air superiority in England. To combat this, the British propaganda department produced several campaigns about the need for every loyal Brit to eat his carrots, so that he would see his enemies far away. German spies in England would see these posters, and the government hoped they would relay back to their commanders that the mystery of how the RAF always saw them coming was solved.

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In your base, ignoring your logic.

During the first ever Super Bowl, the Packers faced off against the Cowboys on a slick, frozen field that caused the players to slip and fall all over each other. The weather was freezing and after the game several players had suffered frost bite.The Packers were behind and Bart Starr, the quarterback for the Packers at the time, called a time out and talked to Vince Lombardi, the Packer's coach, about what he should do. He wanted to call a running play and asked Lombardi his position on the last Packer offensive try of the first Super Bowl ever. Vince Lombardi replied with the wise words of "Run it and let's get the hell out of here.". When asked about what play Starr was going to call, Lombardi used his sage mind to come up with "Damned if I know.".

The end result was arguably the gutsiest call of NFL history, Bart Starr called for a quarterback sneak and ran in the ball himself. The Packers won the first Super Bowl with a play that happened because Vince Lombardi just wanted to get out of the cold.
   
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The Christmas day Truce, 1914:

Though there was no official truce, about 100,000 British and German troops were involved in unofficial cessations of fighting along the length of the Western Front. The first truce started on Christmas Eve, 24 December 1914, when German troops began decorating the area around their trenches in the region of Ypres, Belgium. The Germans began by placing candles on their trenches and on Christmas trees, then continued the celebration by singing Christmas carols. The British responded by singing carols of their own. The two sides continued by shouting Christmas greetings to each other. Soon thereafter, there were excursions across No Man's Land, where small gifts were exchanged, such as food, tobacco and alcohol, and souvenirs such as buttons and hats. The artillery in the region fell silent that night. The truce also allowed a breathing spell where recently fallen soldiers could be brought back behind their lines by burial parties. Joint services were held. The fraternisation was not, however, without its risks; some soldiers were shot by opposing forces. In many sectors, the truce lasted through Christmas night, but it continued until New Year's Day in others.

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The military tank got its premier on the western front of the first world war. Originally it was a top secret project being made by the British and to throw off German spies, the project was named "tank" in the hopes that it sounded too boring to be anything important...thats why we call it the tank today...
   
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Chowderhead wrote:The Christmas day Truce, 1914:

Though there was no official truce, about 100,000 British and German troops were involved in unofficial cessations of fighting along the length of the Western Front. The first truce started on Christmas Eve, 24 December 1914, when German troops began decorating the area around their trenches in the region of Ypres, Belgium. The Germans began by placing candles on their trenches and on Christmas trees, then continued the celebration by singing Christmas carols. The British responded by singing carols of their own. The two sides continued by shouting Christmas greetings to each other. Soon thereafter, there were excursions across No Man's Land, where small gifts were exchanged, such as food, tobacco and alcohol, and souvenirs such as buttons and hats. The artillery in the region fell silent that night. The truce also allowed a breathing spell where recently fallen soldiers could be brought back behind their lines by burial parties. Joint services were held. The fraternisation was not, however, without its risks; some soldiers were shot by opposing forces. In many sectors, the truce lasted through Christmas night, but it continued until New Year's Day in others.


Unofficial truces actually continued to appear up and down the front lines in specific locations throughout the war. During lulls between pushes, up to the company level both sides would agree to target their artillery into no-mans-land, figuring that as long as I don't shoot at you, you won't shoot at me and no-one has to die... these unofficial truces would often carry on for weeks.

There was even a book written about it - Trench Warfare: The Live and Let Live System.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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In 1788, during the Austro-Turkish war, the Battle of Karánsebes took place. It was quite remarkable in that the Austrian army managed to inflict a decisive route upon themselves several days before the Turkish force even reached them.

The Austrian force, around 100,000 strong, set up camp around the town of Karánsebes. A force of hussars crossed the river to scout for the Turkish army, and while they found no Turks they did run into some gypsies who were willing to sell them schnapps. The cavalrymen settled in and got to drinking.

Infantry set out and came across the cavalry, and promptly demanded some of the schnapps for themselves. The hussars, well and truly drunk by this stage, set up makeshift fortifications to prevent anyone taking their schnapps from them. The situation got heated, some men even fired their rifles, then someone started yelling 'the turks! the turks!'. Everyone panicked and fled, thinking the Turks were upon them. They fled back through the rest of their forces, repeating the claim that the Turks were on them, and a general route ensued. It was made worse by the German officers shouting 'Halt!', which sounded like Turks shouting 'Allah!' to the majority of soldiers with no understanding of German.

Seeing the cavalry run through the quickly routing troops, on artillery commander reasoned it was a surprise Turkish assault, and promptly ordered his cannons to open fire. The bulk of the army now woke to the sounds of battle, and promptly began to flee. Utterly panicked, they fired as they fled at anyone they suspected might be a Turk, and gun battles broke out among the fleeing forces.

When the Ottoman army arrived two days later they found the town deserted, and an estimated 10,000 dead soldiers.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
 
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