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cuda1179 wrote: My friend's little brother ( years ago) used a reloader to put a paintball into a shotgun shell. He asked for a volunteer to be shot with it. None of us were that stupid.
That just sounds on the face of it like asking someone to nominate themselves for a darwin award.
I mean, I have no idea what would actually happen, but it sounds like something where I just don't want to know the answer.
While we did not shoot it at anyone, we test fired a bunch of shotgun shells filled with airsoft pellets and only the shotgun primer. It actually worked really well. That was...15 years ago. No one was ever stupid enough to use it that way - of course.
cuda1179 wrote: My friend's little brother ( years ago) used a reloader to put a paintball into a shotgun shell. He asked for a volunteer to be shot with it. None of us were that stupid.
That just sounds on the face of it like asking someone to nominate themselves for a darwin award.
I mean, I have no idea what would actually happen, but it sounds like something where I just don't want to know the answer.
hmmmm. I can't imagine the paintball would retain any cohesive mass that could penetrate a target. I'd think beyond a foot or so it would just get atomized. The blast from the powder charge would be the dangerous part. Even blanks can hurt you at point blank range in the same way.
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Had a guy in a swaud yesterday running an XD in .45 ACP. That was different...
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cuda1179 wrote: My friend's little brother ( years ago) used a reloader to put a paintball into a shotgun shell. He asked for a volunteer to be shot with it. None of us were that stupid.
That just sounds on the face of it like asking someone to nominate themselves for a darwin award.
I mean, I have no idea what would actually happen, but it sounds like something where I just don't want to know the answer.
I have no idea what gauge of shell he loaded. What is the size of a paintball anyway? Is it close to the diameter of 20 gauge or 410 slug? Not saying I'd want to do it, but hypothetically if you used just the perfect amount of powder it could theoretically work, maybe.
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Anvildude wrote: I think paintballs tend towards .50 cal? You could probably fire one from a black-powder rifle with a low enough charge.
They usually range from .68 to .71. Much larger than .50 cal.
While there are larger caliber muzzle loaders, a shotgun would be the best bet for something you could shoot it out of.
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This seems like a thread of knowledgable people, so let me ask here. I picked up a mosin nagant a while back, and a couple cans of corrosive ammo. Recently lent it, and about 50 rounds of ammo to a friend to go shooting in the woods with the promise that he'd clean it when he was done.
Just got it back, and you can guess what wasn't done. Had a nice layer of rust on the muzzle and down the barrel. It cleaned off easy enough, and a look down the barrel didn't show any pitting or obvious damage.
For thosr in the know, for an otherwise well maintained mosin rifle, is there much of a chance that that one time of not cleaning it after shooting corrosive ammo has seriously messed up my barrel?
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One time won’t mess it up, as long as you did clean it in a reasonable amount of time.
The danger of corrosive ammo is relatively long term, months. Though if the firearm got wet it would worsen the issue. And salt water would be even worse.
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Bookwrack wrote: This seems like a thread of knowledgable people, so let me ask here. I picked up a mosin nagant a while back, and a couple cans of corrosive ammo. Recently lent it, and about 50 rounds of ammo to a friend to go shooting in the woods with the promise that he'd clean it when he was done.
Just got it back, and you can guess what wasn't done. Had a nice layer of rust on the muzzle and down the barrel. It cleaned off easy enough, and a look down the barrel didn't show any pitting or obvious damage.
For thosr in the know, for an otherwise well maintained mosin rifle, is there much of a chance that that one time of not cleaning it after shooting corrosive ammo has seriously messed up my barrel?
You may be the first person to have cleaned a Mosin since Berlin, 1945...
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You're probably fine, as long as there is no major pitting which shouldn't happen from something like this. These rifles were after all designed to be issued to 19th century illiterate teenage peasants and fired corrosive ammo exclusively in service.
That said, best to avoid doing it a whole lot as eventually it will destroy the barrel, but from what it sounds like you should be fine.
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There's a strong chance your rifle was already partly corroded/pitted when you purchased it. I'd clean it, and then shoot some groups. It's unlikely to ever make the gun dangerous, etc.
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Elbows wrote: There's a strong chance your rifle was already partly corroded/pitted when you purchased it. I'd clean it, and then shoot some groups. It's unlikely to ever make the gun dangerous, etc.
Yeah, the barrels and breeches are quite thick on bolt actions. The worst it would do is basically turn it into a smooth-bore.
My Mosin's rifling is quite worn out closer to the muzzle, probably from its time in WW2. I actually don't think the ramrod that is provided with the rifle can actually clean the barrel. The part where you would ostensibly stuff a cloth is way too tight the sides of the barrel such that it won't fit down the barrel if it has a cloth on it. Best I could ever do with it was ram a cloth down the barrel just by pushing it along. To do it properly I have to use a modern cleaning kit.
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Thanks for the answers. I figured given it's reputation and the fact that a that could be seriously impacted by a infantryman not taking care of it once, it never would've achieved that kind of prescience or name for itself, but opening up the bag and seeing it covered in corrosion threw me off my stride.
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Bookwrack wrote: This seems like a thread of knowledgable people, so let me ask here. I picked up a mosin nagant a while back, and a couple cans of corrosive ammo. Recently lent it, and about 50 rounds of ammo to a friend to go shooting in the woods with the promise that he'd clean it when he was done.
Just got it back, and you can guess what wasn't done. Had a nice layer of rust on the muzzle and down the barrel. It cleaned off easy enough, and a look down the barrel didn't show any pitting or obvious damage.
For thosr in the know, for an otherwise well maintained mosin rifle, is there much of a chance that that one time of not cleaning it after shooting corrosive ammo has seriously messed up my barrel?
You should be good. Nice scrub down with oil to get the salt out...
Shame on your friend for not cleaning the thing. I hate to see historical arms get abused (doesn't matter the type.)
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Unfortunately, not recently at all and I don't see it changing soon. The local shooting options have not improved recently. I am very jealous of guys who can shoot on their own land.
Spoiler:
1.) The closest place is in Moline, which is just across the river in Illinois (I live right on the border on the Iowa side). It's pistol only, and I'm not a great pistol shot so it's OK but eh not great (and while AR15 "pistols" are a legal fiction the ATF is willing to work with, the guys who own the backstop aren't letting anyone blast 5.56 into it regardless). The other downside is I'm not 100% sure I'm not riding dirty when I go there - I have a conceal carry permit for Iowa, so I can carry firearms in a car (regardless of loaded or not). Illinois doesn't reciprocate with Iowa, though, and doesn't offer FOID cards to nonresidents. FOPA would protect me if I was travelling through Illinois, but not if I was going to Illinois and back. My guess if I had a concealed carry permit for Iowa, and all the firearms were unloaded, cased, and in the trunk pursuant to FOPA, I'd be fine if I got pulled over... but Im also not 100% and don't really want to find out for sure.
2.) The next closest one is about 30 minutes away, also in Iowa - it's just a shooting range cut into a small wooded area on public land. This was formerly my go-too shooting place. The pros are you can bring whatever you want. The cons are there is no longer a RSO volunteering there, so I don't feel safe there - I've seen a lot of unsafe stuff shooting there, people messing with their guns while you're downrange, people on the far side continuing to shoot "since you're not near their lanes" when you're downrange, and so on. It's also completely covered in garbage now - people bring TVs there to shoot and stuff like that. It's ALSO only about 100 yards and while that is OK, I wish I had a little more room for the stuff I have decent glass for.
3.) There is a gun store in Davenport now with an indoor range but pistol only. I was there in March or so, that was fine, but I really prefer rifles or SBRs to pistols. It's also on the ass end of Davenport so it's a bit of a drive.
4.) There are a few rifle clubs in Illinois I would love to pay to join, but they combine the legal problem of 1 with the unpleasant requirement of an NRA membership. I refuse to join the NRA so that is a problem.
The solution to this is obviously building a PCC SBR / Scorpion EVO / something like that, of course perhaps in January.
What do you have on the right there, some kind of FAL? I'm a sucker for a folding carrying handle, I don't know why.
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Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
Brutal, that's a painful situation, I definitely feel ya about places where there are no RSO's, I avoid those sorts of venues when possible as well for the same reasons.
The solution to this is obviously building a PCC SBR / Scorpion EVO / something like that, of course perhaps in January.
What do you have on the right there, some kind of FAL? I'm a sucker for a folding carrying handle, I don't know why.
Yeah, PTR91/G3 clone and a DSA FAL. A Scorpion would be a most excellent idea
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I sadly haven't been able to go to the range since April because of the fire danger. Its supposed to rain next week though so maybe they'll shut down the fire warnings.
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I'm a bit interested in testing out my HK91 and HK93 in cold weather. They are supposed to do well in cold weather, but I'd like to test that theory.
As a side note, I'm getting interested in the .45 as a pistol round. Not that I really want to add another type of ammo to my collection, but something about the 1911 is starting to call out to me.
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They are fun. Solid and simple. Heavy but not cumbersome. And for a pistol of that size and caliber it is surprisingly thin so it isn't a terrible idea as a carry weapon, if you can use a shoulder holster of some kind.
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The 1911 is still my favorite pistol to shoot, though it's too unwieldy for daily carry for me - once I started carrying subcompacts I didn't want to go back to full size service pistols.
It's definitely doable though.
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There are a lot of people who carry 1911s for CC. Depends as always on your frame, dress style, etc. They're obviously not light, but...that'll depend on your build/belt.
All my 1911 friends say the same thing: Stick to .45, normal size barrel, single-stack. Generally speaking 1911s are not on par with the modern reliable plastics, but they get worse as you get further from the basic formula - unless you're going to invest in an STI or something high dollar. Also the $3K "hand fitted" guns are barbeque guns at best in many instances.
Also, while not necessary for more modern guns, 1911s still tend to require a 1000-1500 round wearing in period before you can determine how good the on you got is. In short, it can be a lot of work to get a good, reliable (i.e. trust it with your life) consistent 1911. You'd be best served going to a full 1911 forum and getting the current low-down on what is good/bad/ugly.
1966 produced all-matching Factory 26 Chinese SKS...I promise it's there under all the cosmoline.
This is going to be a looooooooong cleanup job. Just touching it is gross
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As absolutely stupid as it sounds, I've always wanted a Tec-9. The problem being it's long been out of production, and even at the best of times it was totally unreliable. I think I may have found a suitable substitute.
Did you get the Galil from Classic Firearms? I saw those, they look like they will be dope rifles. They went out of stock pretty quick too!
I know the listing says they have forged receivers, but I heard a rumor that they may be cast. I'm assuming the rumor is false, but can you tell by looking at it in person?
cuda1179 wrote:As absolutely stupid as it sounds, I've always wanted a Tec-9. The problem being it's long been out of production, and even at the best of times it was totally unreliable. I think I may have found a suitable substitute.
I understand the Tec-9 draw, there's a lot of pop culture value there, though for actual shooting and for history cool factor I think the vz61 is a winner
Hordini wrote:Did you get the Galil from Classic Firearms? I saw those, they look like they will be dope rifles. They went out of stock pretty quick too!
I know the listing says they have forged receivers, but I heard a rumor that they may be cast. I'm assuming the rumor is false, but can you tell by looking at it in person?
The markings are a nice touch too I thought.
Aye, it's from Classic. As far as I can tell the receiver looks forged, there's nothing that looks cast on it, no obvious lines or rough cast surfaces or voids that I can see. It's a heavy beast, even next to my milled SAM7 AK
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That SKS wood will probably be oozing grease when fired for the next 20 years I've had some luck leaching grease out with degreasing spray, but there is a concern that can weaken the wood I believe.
On a different note, any reloaders who don't have a stainless steel tumbler to clean their brass should get one, it's magic
perhaps in January.
