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http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2011/10/12/network-news-the-necron-rumor-you-need-to-know-and-more/

Rumor has it that a new Necron shooting attack can cause large swaths of your opponents army in a new interesting way. How it works is simple…

1. Necron Shoots Unit
2. Necron Hits Unit
3. Necron player allocates where the wound will be (how this is worded I have no idea)
4. All identical models to the one just shot are now hit
5. Roll to wound all models that are identical
6. Make armor saves were applicable

Here is an example. I shoot Necron weapon at a squad of Long Fangs. I hit and chose my wound to be rolled on a Missile Launcher Long Fang. All Missile Launcher Long Fangs IN THE ENTIRE ARMY are now hit. Now think take this a step further. What if I shoot a Ork Boy?

WTF


Edit by yakface:

The same quality source who provided me with the previous Necron rumors had this to say about this latest rumor:


This rumor is off. It applies only to a hand-to-hand close combat ability possessed by a named Necron character.

This rule applies ONLY to the units the special Necron character is engaged with (it doesn't affect every model in the enemy army of the same type).

It happens after the Necron character has killed someone in combat and after all blows have been struck on both sides.

Roll a D6 for every type of model (friend or enemy) that the special character killed that turn. On a 4+ all other models in combat of that type take a wound (armor/inv saves can be taken as normal).

Example: If the Necron character kills an Ork Slugga boy in close combat and got the 4+ roll, all other Slugga boyz in the same combat would take a wound, but NOT the nob (as he's a different type of model). Any Shoota boyz, for example, in the same combat would be unaffected as well. If he killed a marine and got the roll, all other marines would take a wound, but not the vet sgt, etc.

It would seem that if this Necron was fighting against another Necron player, then he has the potential to hurt his own forces if the same type of units were facing off; if he was attached to a unit of warriors that was fighting against an enemy unit of warriors, for example.

A little hard to believe.

Matt Ward strikes again? hehe, i kid, but i'm taking this with a grain of salt.

Grain of salt the size of the sun.

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You didn't include the other half of the post though:

Here is the other way this weapon could work.

1.Necron Shoots Unit
2.Necron Hits Unit
3.Even though I only hit once I roll to wound every model in that unit.
4.Opponent makes armor saves where applicable
Now this doesn’t sound as scary as the first example, but it is basically GK Cleansing Fire power for Necrons. This version also fits in with chatter about multiple weapons that deal with horde armies.
Enter highly speculative realm that shouldn’t be taken as facts.

My fear though is that both these rumors are true. Here is a way it could potential work. One type of Necron gets the lesser version of this has this weapon. Another Necron lets say a Special Character gets the power to strike at all identical models army wide. I have a feeling that either way this weapon will be short-range, one shot, low str, and no ap value otherwise we are looking at some game breaking territory.

At least one of these rumors should happen which one though…

The second one sounds more likely to happen, but this whole thing IMHO is simply an example of fake rumours spread by people who want to stir up some hate in the online community, and it might have worked a little bit on the OP...

meh, where's the new model pics? :(

Sigh. Is this codex out yet?

You know, because anti-infantry was a weakness of Necrons in the last codex.

Maybe GW really hates spam lists?

Can it still be considered a grain of salt when its the size of Cleveland?

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The first example sounds unlikely. Too...broken. If it were everyone in the squad yes, but everyone in the army?
I think have gone with just be rerolls to successive armor saves, in addition to the normal gauss rules.

Assuming this is from Tasty, who has been spot-on before, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that the wording as we see it is much less abusive in the final text.

spireland wrote:Maybe GW really hates spam lists?

more likely the Person in Salt Mine, who was spreading the rumor in first place does :^

I give him credits for beeing creative and entertaining tho.

spireland wrote:Maybe GW really hates spam lists?

This doesn't scare me as much(first of all because I play Necrons) because 5th edition basically discourages spam lists and wound allocation generally has people building non-identical models per unit anyway. The ranged cleansing flame rumor would work around the spam list option though so if this is something we see in one version on standard units and in the more powerful version on a special character, then it could be nasty.


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clash0r wrote:

spireland wrote:Maybe GW really hates spam lists?

more likely the Person in Salt Mine, who was spreading the rumor in first place does :^

I give him credits for beeing creative and entertaining tho.

But also generally right.

Space Wolf Long fang and Melta Vette lists would beg to differ that 5th discourages spam...

lolwut?

Hey Joe, back up the salt truck!

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spireland wrote:Maybe GW really hates spam lists?

See now, what would be interesting would be if it worked for vehicles as well as infantry. "Those 12 Psybacks? Let's roll for those bad boys."

In other news, crystal of sodium chloride the size of Texas spotted...

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That is Matt Ward for you. This shows how much he hates you. Hate him back.



Seriously. This is the most game-breaking rule to have ever existed since Fish of Fury and March of Doom.

Thanks Games Workshop.

I have read stuff from Tasty before and it's been pretty accurate. This shows an interesting direction. It's almost as if you go with variety or run the risk of rolling more armor saves. We all know that more armor saves = more failed armor saves. Armies without a good armor save take note.

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The second is the most likely. As already stated this will likely be weak IF it actually is true. Tyranids, orks, and IG will be hit the hardest. It would be an EASY way to get VP for each model killed.

Example of this (at S3)
Necron shoots gun at IG Infantry Squad, needs a 3+ to hit (with current BS), a 4 to wound and then (most likely) another hit to another model if the save is failed.

I see this as more of a Blood Talons type Shooting weapon then anything else. If it is like this than it will be strong but not too OP. it would make that unit that has it as a almost quarenteed primary target though.

If it is as stated then it will be, Hits infantry squad, wound on all standard Infantry members (basic loadout) multiple wounds multiple deaths and a most likely hasty retreat.

If this works like this than it will bring back what was shown in the "Fall of Damos" which is the fear and immense fire power that the Necrons wielded. This would defintly cause a TON of retreats throughout a game.

Need more info though before I can really say. . .

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Oh c'mon, I spent ages finding the right image of a meteor! I was at least a bit creative with it...!

This has been covered in the other Necron news thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2310/365775.page

Please close this thread, thanks mods.

$pider wrote:I have read stuff from Tasty before and it's been pretty accurate. This shows an interesting direction. It's almost as if you go with variety or run the risk of rolling more armor saves. We all know that more armor saves = more failed armor saves. Armies without a good armor save take note.

As accurate as what? Even if the rumors are mostly correct, the cost of getting a new Army will be prohibitive to the average player and cost heavy for people who do have the army at hand so they can revamp it.

Magic the Gathering with plastic models to a shrinking customer base, yea smart move. The corporation should be thinking of finding ways of keeping their customer base than their current business model.

Ok - so large units of orks boyz, eldar guardians, basic marines etc are up the creek (ie nice looking balanced armies).
Basic / common troops are reasonably fairly priced.
New spial from redshirts - 'To beat Necrons you need this finecast gribly model! & this super heavy tank etc' which cost more (eg compare basic SMs £23 with vets £20.50 for old style but 5 in a box, £25 for sternguard for 5, £20.50 for 5 death company) - you see where I'm going.....

Sounds like the effects of a "chain lightning" style Tesla weapon, fully in style with what the Necrons are supposed to wield.

Shame on the OP for not including the full quote from the source, as this is the more meaty bit for conversation. I'd agree that it's likely to be a low S, low-to-no AP weapon, possibly a one-shot wargear for a lord. Great against horde armies, rubbish against mixed units like death company, TWC, or MEQ in general.

If the broad wishlisting that gauss becomes rending is true, Necrons will have a way around MEQ anyway...

nectarprime wrote:Please close this thread, thanks mods.

The thread in which this has been mentioned was moved to 40k General Discussions as it's original content was no longer "news." Your thread is "news" and so belongs here in the News & Rumors sub-forum. Thanks!

removed...

Cleansing flame... shooting... if this is true i think i'm going to cry

Gavin Thorne wrote:Sounds like the effects of a "chain lightning" style Tesla weapon, fully in style with what the Necrons are supposed to wield.

Shame on the OP for not including the full quote from the source, as this is the more meaty bit for conversation. I'd agree that it's likely to be a low S, low-to-no AP weapon, possibly a one-shot wargear for a lord. Great against horde armies, rubbish against mixed units like death company, TWC, or MEQ in general.

If the broad wishlisting that gauss becomes rending is true, Necrons will have a way around MEQ anyway...

You know there's a thing called a "link" which I included in my post. Feel free to click it and enjoy the entire source!