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I'm not sure what you're getting at. Duke Nukem Forever was exactly as I expected it to be. Duke 3D: 2011 and I did enjoy it as a throw back with better graphics.

I'm just interested to see how it all turns out with these guys. I could see something along the lines of what the OP has posted, though much less powerful then it would seem. We really have no specific details.

Infreak wrote:I'm not sure what you're getting at. Duke Nukem Forever was exactly as I expected it to be. Duke 3D: 2011 and I did enjoy it as a throw back with better graphics.

To me, it was more Duke 3D, without the character, fun, quality weapons, short loading times, sense of humour, understandably weak graphics, original enemies etc...
God I'm in a sour mood tonight.

Its probably a special weapon, and I am happy something cuts down on spam units.

On a side note, thanks manchu for cutting down on the salt pictures/comments that BS stopped being funny a long time ago.

No way that the first version of the rumour can be true: One shot to hit all standard Ork Boyz/Space marines, Termagants in the army? Nonsense.

haroon wrote:Its probably a special weapon, and I am happy something cuts down on spam units.

It's true that spam needs some dealing with but isn't it a bit ironic for that tool to come in a Necron book -- at least given what Necron lists have looked like for the past three or four years (or more).


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Kroothawk wrote:No way that the first version of the rumour can be true

Agreed. There could be some kernel of truth in the rumor, like the New'crons having a weapon that shoots differently from everything else in the game, but that could just as well turn out to be something novel like multiple-ammo units in other Fifth Edition books.

Monster Rain wrote:There has to be more to this, even if it is true.

There's no way GW would make something that makes you automatically lose every tactical marine on the table.

True, but I could see them making some kind of weapon that makes you automatically lose every termaguant or genestealer on the table...kinda like this rumored weapon might do .

They do certainly hate the Tyranids, according to popular belief. In my wildest fantasies the weapon is exactly as described in the OP, but Ultramarines are immune to it.

Ascalam wrote:Sounds like Chicken Little syndrome to me anyway.

Gamers (self included) always claim the sky is falling on a rumor or a possible rule in a new book, and by the time the book actually hits the shelf (and the rule is less uber than believed,usually) it is alreadly labelled OP, Broken, CHEESE! ...

and this might lead GW to stop releasing any information in the future...oops. Its the over top comments taking something like this as solid that is the problem. GW does not want to pre release info because they are wrong either way.....I am not GW appologist but come on people

Manchu wrote:It's true that spam needs some dealing with but isn't it a bit ironic for that tool to come in a Necron book -- at least given what Necron lists have looked like for the past three or four years (or more).

IMO, certain types of spam need to be dealt with...as in mechanized spam (which this gun doesn't address). But that isn't something that a codex should correct but instead should be a revision to the core rulebook.

Fishboy wrote:

Ascalam wrote:Sounds like Chicken Little syndrome to me anyway.

Gamers (self included) always claim the sky is falling on a rumor or a possible rule in a new book, and by the time the book actually hits the shelf (and the rule is less uber than believed,usually) it is alreadly labelled OP, Broken, CHEESE! ...

and this might lead GW to stop releasing any information in the future...oops. Its the over top comments taking something like this as solid that is the problem. GW does not want to pre release info because they are wrong either way.....I am not GW appologist but come on people

I think a LACK of information is counter-intuitive to solving this.

I'm not saying they should reveal everything, but part of the reason people over-react like this is because they don't have the full picture; these vague rumours come about as a result of a lack of information, further reducing information doesn't help it IMHO.

@wyomingfox: Yeah, I was just being a bit facetious given the extremely high monolith sales-to-necron players ratio.

It does follow the trend of every new Codex having a new toy that utterly cripples Tyranids.

Space Wolves: Missiles Everywhere + JotWW
Dark Eldar: Poison Everywhere
Grey Knights: Force Weapons Everywhere + Purifiers
Tyranids: Codex Tyranids itself
Necrons: Autokill All Termagants Button

Fishboy wrote:GW does not want to pre release info because they are wrong either way.....I am not GW appologist but come on people

Wait, but no one has demonstrated any correlation between people overreacting on the internet and sales performance. In fact, it seems to me equally plausible that the kind of overreacting that you assume would harm GW might actually help them -- you know, having large numbers of people anticipating your product. No, I'm afraid that GW's news blackout policy still only makes sense in light of one thing: sucking up to New Line Cinema.

If Mat ward does write this dex im selling my 'crons

Please don't try to get around the swear-filter. Thanks! ~Manchu

Manchu wrote:No, I'm afraid that GW's news blackout policy still only makes sense in light of one thing: sucking up to New Line Cinema.

What?

Why would they do that? I'm genuinely asking, I have no idea what the connection is.

cheapbuster wrote:If Mat ward does write this dex im selling my 'crons

Better get your ad up in the swap shop....

Monster Rain wrote:

Manchu wrote:No, I'm afraid that GW's news blackout policy still only makes sense in light of one thing: sucking up to New Line Cinema.

What?

Why would they do that? I'm genuinely asking, I have no idea what the connection is.

Lord of the RIngs / The Hobbit movies.
They didn't want anything coming out about the look of the figures beofre the movies came out. Stands to reason they would have the same agreement with The Hobbit coming out.

Oh, of course.

Thanks for the clarification.

Looks like BoK's site traffic was down this month...

Couple of years back we would have all laughed at the very concept of this rule. A weapon that hits everyone in the unit? With a single shot? Oh please.

But with all the crazy bull gak we've had in recent Codices, especially the ones created by Ward, this sort of thing seems 100% plausible.

No salt here.

H.B.M.C. wrote:No salt here.

Did Blood of Kittens's other rumors use up your entire supply of salt for the year?

H.B.M.C. wrote:But with all the crazy bull gak we've had in recent Codices, especially the ones created by Ward, this sort of thing seems 100% plausible.

Oh I dunno, I think you have to be pretty primed up with anti-GW-juice to misremember all of the rumors before this one that have turned out to be tru-ish and yet not broken anything because, as it turns out, the rules aren't as poorly written as (someone who goes on the internet to insist that they are total gak) might have us believe.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Couple of years back we would have all laughed at the very concept of this rule. A weapon that hits everyone in the unit? With a single shot? Oh please.

But with all the crazy bull gak we've had in recent Codices, especially the ones created by Ward, this sort of thing seems 100% plausible.

No salt here.

That is exactly what I was thinking, had you told me about the purifying flame rule purifiers get I would have laughed and dismissed it but there it is in the codex. Also its worth noting BOK was right about the sisters of battle white dwarf thing and every one thought that was BS.

@haroon: Good point about the SoB WD "codex" -- but BoK says one out of the two versions posted "should happen." What does that even mean?

@Manchu-Sorry to seem like I am jumping on a bandwagon there. It just seems that everyone cries about no info or rumors then as soon as one comes out everyone complains about how over powered it is and how bad GW is....Guess it just gets old for me.

If this power really did exist then simply hiding in a vehicle would solve the problem where necessary right? Granted Orks in large numbers and Nids are hosed unless the new "nids release" that was rumored turns out to be some type of monstrous transport that hides the entire army . I agree that it would have to be squad specific, one shot per necron unit (2/3 chance to hit anyone in unit), low power, and short range.

Fishboy wrote:It just seems that everyone cries about no info or rumors then as soon as one comes out everyone complains about how over powered it is and how bad GW is....Guess it just gets old for me.

Me, too! I just don't think it's what motivates GW to run such a tight-lipped ship. They don't demonstrate a hugs amount of concern for internet-derived criticism in any other way.

I agree that it would have to be squad specific, one shot per necron unit (2/3 chance to hit anyone in unit), low power, and short range.

Yes, I think this will likely be the case if, as BoK suggests, one version of the rumor or the other absolutely must be true.

I remember another rumor about Necrons that came out a few months ago. Don't remember the thread or even the forum but it had to do with the C'tan becoming an elite choice and being able to buy a bunch of different powers.

One of which was the ability to make the whole battlefield, or at least a significant part of it difficult terrain. I wonder if this rule is related to that, a prototype for that or maybe this is the Necron's new thing. SW=missile lauchers, DE=poison, 'crons=slap the whole table somehow.

I doubt that the C'tan would be totally removed. I agree that it is likely we will see them as an elite choice.

nectarprime wrote:I doubt that the C'tan would be totally removed. I agree that it is likely we will see them as an elite choice.

That I would not like to see. They are gods. They deserve better than that. Now if it were something like an aspect of them (you know, like how bloodletters are an aspect of khorne) then maybe.

Though really, they should be kept in the fluff. Fielding a god is a bit...strange.

haroon wrote:Its probably a special weapon, and I am happy something cuts down on spam units.

This is a really Ill informed statement, I hate spam lists such as ML Long fangs or melta vets but you are also forgetting that there are perfectly legitimate and fluffy lists that would get done up the jacksy with a red hot poker by this piece of wargear. Take for example pretty much every nid list in existance, or an ork green tide list! An ork green tide list would have a minimum of 52 ordinary ork boyz ok there may be variations between shootas and sluggas and choppas, now if an ork boy gets hit thats 51 armour saves of 6+ now unless your the luckiest SoB on the planet thats game over right there and then.

I absolutely hate the idea of this item, the very notion that the fate of the game will be decided on the roll of a single dice is dreadful, you might as well just sit there and roll a d6 and and say on a 1-3 you win on a 4-6 I win and not bother getting your amry out of its case.