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hi guys would like some feed back if you could please on a primarch l made, its one l made up for my own legion lol just want to know if its hight ok etc thanks

The sword is pretty well done, but this is very anti-fluffwise...

anti-fluffwise? what do you mean lol

I mean, this is not by the 40k background story, and you should be warned about NERDRAGE !!!

Bah, who cares if it's not fluffy. But what's important is that he has a good model to represent it. Though it would be pretty nice if he did have fluff explaining him. 21st founding? Or some warp communion with Sang that might of created a twin back when he was taken from terra. Anything is possible really in the 40k universe, especially if it involves the warp.

Bah, who cares if it's not fluffy

I agree to an extent. I personally think Primarchs are one of the few things that should be left be and not added in. But I digress.

Its a good start, but these are some things that could strengthen the model:

-Unify your color scheme. Right now it looks like you painted it sporadically.You have purple, gold, red, white, and more.

-The pose is a bit stiff. If hes a Primarch, display him as such! Get that shield out fo the way and show him off!

-The dragon theme is conveyed well, although I feel like it is not supported well by once again, the colors.

thanks guys for all the feed back say do you know where l might find pre-heresy do it yourself convertions?


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is there anywhere guys you can buy primarchs from or find convertions tips?

does anyone know how many space marines were in a legion? is it 1 mil?

A standard Astartes chapter or legion is 10 companies, each company 100 men so.... a full chapter is 1000 space marines + vehicles etc.

There are no GW models for primarch's (they are all dead) but there are a few models for various chapter masters or key chapter leaders you can check out.

ok the legions veried in from the small salamanders /thousand sons to the very large space wolves/ ultramarines they were made up of companys anything from 7 to 25 each company was lead by a captain and would range from 300 to 1200 marines.

Showtime wrote:A standard Astartes chapter or legion is 10 companies, each company 100 men so.... a full chapter is 1000 space marines + vehicles etc.

There are no GW models for primarch's (they are all dead) but there are a few models for various chapter masters or key chapter leaders you can check out.

You've got it right for a standard Chapter, but not a Legion (specific term to 40k, not used in the Roman Legion sense). A Legion is a pre-heresy era thing. There were only 20 of them, and they were as big as they wanted/needed to be (i.e. no size restriction that I can think of). Each Legion was built from the geneseed of one of the 20 Primarchs. The Horus Heresy basically happened when half the Legions turned traitor. After the war was mostly settled, the Imperium of Man broke the remaining Legions up into the Chapter Structure we know today, so that if such an uprising happened again, they'd only be facing a few thousand traitors rather than a potentially unlimited number.

The big differences are:

A Chapter doesn't have a Primarch, but a Legion did. A Chapter is led by a Chapter Master. As an example, Marneus Calgar is the Chapter Master of the Ultramarines Chapter. Roboute Guilliman was the Primarch of the Legion that the Ultramarines were predominantly formed from way back when.

A Chapter is limited in size, but a Legion wasn't.

The original founding chapters were created from the break up of the remaining loyalist legions. Second and later foundings were created from existing chapters. So with good documentation, a chapter might be able to trace their ancestry back to a given Primarch.

18 of the 20 Primarchs are known, with the remaining two having been destroyed (possibly) and records of their existence purged. It's potentially possible to claim one of these as your Primarch, with a little fluff juggling, and still have that part seem plausible. The only Primarchs I know of that are still listed as being alive in the current timeline are traitor/demon Primarchs. (The Lion and Russ are two loyalist ones that might return, if you put stock in rumors and vague prophecy).

thanks for the info guys you guys have really helped me out. could anyone give me any tips on what would be a good paint scheme for my primarch thinking the gold is too much

Hi guys this is my new modeled primarch Dragus of the Raging Dragons he's not yet fully finished but would like some feed back on what you guys think I've added my legion master to show size

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Another view

a legion could be as big as the WB pre heresy numbering in the one hundred thousands or ten to twenty thousands like the emprahs children and the 1k sons. It would be hard to paint 10k models so just say they are a chapter lost in the warp i would be okay with it heck i would enjoy it more than they generic UM that is running around today.


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he doesnt look bad, seeing that i suck golfballs with conversions i think he is very nice just unify the scheme for colours and it will work. Like my DE most of them are coloured different but they have red to show allegiance to the kabal of the bloodied voices.

hi guys again would love some feed back on my finished primarch, basing him round one of the lost 2

 sluggaslugga wrote:
The sword is pretty well done, but this is very anti-fluffwise...

His army, his fluff

Very well done on the model too. How does it scale up next to a terminator?

The second model looks even better. He could work for an angron model

Your second primarch model looks way better than the first. Creating a model like that isn't an easy process. And sculpting a good looking head alone is a hard task.
Kudos to you.

But there are a few areas that need some more work. You should pull his leg greaves higher over his knees and you should either make them longer or shorten his upper legs slightly. His lower legs are too short and the overall look and feel would be better it they had more bulk on top of that.

Both http://www.hitechminiatures.com/ and http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?group=70 have some nice looking examples for those heavy armored primarch-like leg armor. So it might help you in your endeavor to use those as inspiration and orientation for your legs.

And his arms might also need some more bulk Especially if you compare them to his chest armor and the size of his head.

Don't get me wrong. You did a great work but there is still room to improve the model.

thanks for the info guys l'll go and alter it l did think the lower legs did look a little small but think l needed someone to tell me lol so thanks

what colours do you think guys for a Primarch l'll add my colour scheme for my army

this is the sizeof my primarch next to a terminator

Nice conversion work, that is alot of Greenstuff!

I really like the colour scheme - it works well evoking the legion/chapter name.

It is definately primach sized and the moving up of the lower leg pieces will help it look balanced.

Also the top of the legs looks a bit bare compared to the rest of the ornate armour.

Keep showing us pics!

Colours could depend on his back story.

If he's slayed dragons or a 40k equivalent I'd be tempted to give him super bright silver armour, take it back to a knights of old thing.

Alternatively, bone, as though his armour is made from the bones of those that he has killed


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If you don't mind me adding I think that army scheme is too busy. At most, give them a quartered scheme.

thanks guy for all your feed back once l sort out the legs l'll re-post the finished model. Again thank you for all your feed back l needed it


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hope you guys like the ruby in the chest armour

Raging Dragons sounds like a gay porn magazine

Now what do you guys think any better???

Pretty awesome. Love the gold black and red scheme.

Your green stuff work is amazing

Yea top notch stuff, cant wait to see him painted.