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Make a Deathstar unit, and post it here. say how you would play it, and follow these rules.


May be a MAXIMUM of 5 units. IC count towards this.
It must be a legal unit, so no, you can't have 5 Lysanders.
It must be able to fit inot a FOC. Not 5 Land Raiders. Units may have dedicated transports, but they count as the slot of the unit. EG, Sternguard taking a Rhino counts as 2 elites.
All units must be from a GW codex, and all must be the same codex.
No "old codexes", you are allowed the ones GW sells on the website.
No Apocalypse units.

I'll Start





Draigo makes Paladins Troops
Librarian with Might of Titan and Quicksilver, and Warp Rift
Techmarine with rad Grenades
10 paladins with Halberds, including 1 Hammer, 1 warding Stave, an Apothecary, and Psybolt Ammo.






If all goes well, this should dish out

4, WS 7 Master Crafted force Weapon Attacks at AStr 10, int 10
27, WS 5 NWF attacks at Str 9, Int 10
2-3 WS 4 NFW attacks at Str 9, int 10
3 WS 5 normal Attacks, Str 9, Int 10
3 Ws 5, Str 10, Int 1 attacks
1, WS4, Str 8, Int 1 attack(Servo arm).


All of these should roll 2D6 for Armur penetration and Strike against -1 Toughness, so they can ID through double Str, rather than NFW.


As well as
20, BS 4, Str 5, AP 5 shots at 24"
2, BS 6, Str 4, AP5 shots at 25"
2, Str 4, AP 5, BS 4 shots at 24"
1 Str 5, AP-, Large Blast at 12"
1 Template that removes models if they fail an Int test, or 1 auto pen/2 Str 4, AP5, BS 4 shots at 24".

Karios Fateweaver
Pink Horrors with every upgrade possible and the Changeling.
3 Bloodcrusher units maxed out.

Deal with that. Discount GK of course.
The only decent ones with these rules are effectively from the crazy expensive but powerful codexes. IE GK.

If you put a points limit in this may make everything less genetic and more inventive

Night Bringer.

2 Full units of Pariahs

2 full units of Immortals.

Mad Dock Grotsnik leading a unit of 30 'ard boys, and out in front a Big Mek with kustom force field and right in front of him, a squadron of killa kans.

30 Boyz who have a 4" armor save and feel no pain led by a character who has a powerfist (And the nob in the 'ard boyz unit also has a powerfist, duh...), shielded by a squadron of vehicles that have a 4+ invulnerable save. This unit WILL make it into contact with the enemy. Just try and stop them!!!

10x TH/SS Termies
Lysander
Shrike

All of it infiltrating.

for op , you should add an bortherhood banner to that since it will give +1A to everybody (i assume this includes the techmarine librarian and draigo as well) so it will give at least 10 attacks just for paladins and 3 more for the chracters so 12 more force weapon attacks and 1 more nromal attack. Oh and since they have quicksilver why bother with halbers just give them all falchions. You should add 4 psycannons as well since they wont effect close combat and give more bonus to ranged attack

I knew I was forgetting something. Banners for +1 attack. I was thinking they were for the autokills, but they had used all their powers for that turn. The Halberds are for the just in case of Failure to Quicksilver.

Psycannons...duh...






BTW, tyhere is no point limit, go crazy, just try and be reasonable.

You think a Bloodthirster plus 80 Berzerkers is viable?

2x 50man blobs with commissars, all with power weapons, and hwt to let more attacks go through. armed with meltas.
Straken, with bodyguards, astropath, ootf, moo, medic and 1x heavy flamer, 2x meltas.
2x PCS 3x flamers. 1x heavey flamer.

Not too sure how good in cc this is, since i'm a shooting guard player, assuming a deathstar is a cc power house.

oh i should get this while i can dante and lemartes and 30 death company with double thunderhammers and jump packs. You can add a sanguniary priest or mepthiston if you wish i actually am not sure if IC s can join death company (i know mephiston isn't one tough)

10 Wolfguard (Equipped with wolf claws) with the Arjac upgrade.
Grimnar
Ragnar
Ulric
Njal the Stormcaller
40 attacks from the WG on charge + D3 attacks from Ragnars insane Bravado + 1 from Logan's Livign Legend. Total of 50-80 attacks (Not charging and charging and D3=1 and D3=3)
The attacks would be S5 rerolling to hit (Preferred enemy from Logan's High King rule) and re-rolling on to wound roills (Wolf claws)
Expensive as hell but shiny, and capable of holding objectives.

10-man Chaos Champion Termie unit, MoK, x2 Reaper Cannon, x10 chain fist, 2 combi-melta, x2 combi-plasma.

Led by a Chaos Termie Lord w/ Demon Weapon Bloodfeeder.

In a close combat if I can get them close to charge thats how many attacks with no save? +30 champ termies, +10 MoK, +10 Charge, Chaos termie lord +3, Demon Weapon +2d6 = up to 65 attacks str 8 no save of instant death. I know the termie unit is init 1 but the Chaos Lord can strike first at init 5. Thats a whole lotta death to put out in one turn, not to mention all termies are save 2+ not bad lol. Against vehicles or monsterous creatures this unit rocks. Plus lotsa shooty stuff to x2 reaper cannons, 2x combi-meltas, x2 combie-plasma, x6 storm bolters can scare qanyone, plus they can deepstrike.

Reclusiarch in Terminator Armour
Sanguinary Priest in Terminator armour
10 Assault Terminators
Storm Raven
Furiouso Dreadnought on the back

awww yeah...

Farsight

With 8 Bodyguards, Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Shield generators, HWMT, HWTL, HWBF, 2 shield drones each, bonding knife, 1 w/Ejection System, 1 w/Failsafe Detonator, 1 w/ Stimulant Injector 1 w/AFP, CIB

16 Plasma Shots a turn
1 Pie plate a turn
14 48" str7
16 Shield Drones.
Invul. saves for all
One pie plate whenever they fall back
5 str3 ~rending shots
20 wounds
All with JSJ
All at BS4
ALL this per turn
1 has FNP
if the entire unit is destroyed, 1 can run for the table edge, if he gets there, no killpoints for the opponent.
Oh, and they can all fire at different units so non over-kill.

Oh and it's only one FOC slot

This may not be the best, but it would end up being fun.

Vulkan He'stan
Master of the Foge with thunder hammer and 5 servitors
3x 10-man Assault Termies squads

Like I said, not the best, but it looks like a lot of fun!

Three sets of 10 TH/SS terminators.
Librarian with stormshield and TDA.
Shrike.

2x Farseers w 10 Locks each: 8w destructor, 2 w singing spears 1 enhance and 1 embolden
farseer 1: doom, fortune, guide, runes of warding and witnessing, spirit stones
farseer 2: fortune, guide, mindwar, runes of witnessing, spirit stones
10 dire avengers w bladestorm exarch
10 dire avengers w bladestorm exarch

10 Nobz, cyborked
Painboy
2 power klaws
various gear to get them wound diversified, incl. bosspoles, Waaagh banner, big choppas, kombis

Warboss with cybork, attack squig, power klaw, and kombi-skorcha

Big Mek with klaw and KFF

All of the above rolling around in:
Battlewagon with deffrolla, kannon, 1 big shoota, grot riggers, extra armor, and boarding plank

Directions: roll up on the enemy's biggest and baddest (over the faces of other stuff if possible) and everyone but the mek jumps out and starts krumpin face. The mek stays in the wagon to keep the KFF bubble huge, make repairs if necessary, and attack via the boarding plank.

iproxtaco wrote:You think a Bloodthirster plus 80 Berzerkers is viable?

They are not from the same codex, so no.

30 boys with powerklaw nob
30 boys with powerklaw nob
30 boys with powerklaw nob
30 'ard boys with powerklaw nob

Warboss with heavy armor, powerklaw, cybork body and attack squig

I think most of these lists are not 'legal' due to the fact they are taking more than '1 deathstar'. The whole '5 unit' thing is to account for the total FOC slots you can take with your '1 deathstar' combined unit, counting IC"s.

Here is mine.

Space Wolf Deathstar:

Logan

Njal

Wolf Lord with runic armor, th/ss, twolf mount, wolf tail, wolf necklace, saga of the bear

Wolf Lord with runic armor, frost blade/ss, twolf mount, wolf tail, wolf necklace, mb, saga of the warrior born

10 wolf guard with 9xTDA, 9xth/ss, 2xcml's with Arjac Rockfist.

1910pts

Meets the '5 unit' limit.

Very effective. Way too expensive. Can deal with almost any 'single unit' on the table. Long range anti-tank, everything 2+ saves. Everything has an invul and most are 3+.

If worst comes to worst, just detach the 2 wolf lords to go screaming across the board to tie up blob shooty units until you can get across the board with the 'death star'.

Njal provides anti-infiltrate and anti-psycher abilities along with the wolf tails. Can help slow down opposing death star with murderous hurricane.

Logan can make the unit fearless, preferred enemy or tank hunter as needed.

If they make a ld10 roll for counter attack:

Logan gets 6 attacks at either init5 str5 or init1 str8
Njal gets 5 attacks init4 str4
th/ss lord gets 6 attacks init1 str10
fb/ss lord gets 6 attacks init5 str5
Arjac gets 4 attacks init1 str10

All hitting on 3's with re-rolls to hit. All no armor saves.

The rest of the unit will swing 27 attacks init1 str8 with re-rolls to hit.

That's a total of 54 swings that are pretty devastating.

Add 14 more swings if logan does his living legend +1a for everyone once per game.

And the unit is ld10 stubborn with a re-roll to take away PBS or fear shenanigans.

Biggest 'flaws' (besides the cost) are only 3 eternal warriors, lack of ap2 shooting and only 22 wounds among the 14 models.

As an option, you could replace the FB Wolf Lord with Ragnar.

Deadshot wrote:

iproxtaco wrote:You think a Bloodthirster plus 80 Berzerkers is viable?

They are not from the same codex, so no.

I meant a Terminator Lord with mark of Khorne and Dual lightning claws, but fantasizing got the better of me. Anyway, I thought you could have pointed out that having four HQ's wouldn't fit into the FOC.

SW have a rule that they get 2 Units per HQ slot, kind of like Daemonic Heralds only taking half an HQ slot.

Deadshot wrote:SW have a rule that they get 2 Units per HQ slot, kind of like Daemonic Heralds only taking half an HQ slot.

That's the stupidest rule I have ever heard. It works for Heralds because at least they're not really full HQ's, this is just dumb.

The downside is that no 2 SW HQs may ave exacly the same loadout.

You could have 2 Wolf lords with Thunderwolfand Frost Blade, as long as one had a second frost blade, and the other had a Stormbolter. However, if you had 2 Wolf Lords with Thunderwolves and a pair of Frost Blades, that would be illegal.

Daemonic Heralds can be tooled up, so you could have 4 Khorne Heralds with Juggernaut and BotBG and be legal.

You could, but that wouldn't be very effective at all. With Space Wolves, allowing 4 HQs is just annoying me, I wish I hadn't found out about it.

Farsight with full body guards weilding Twin-Missile Pods and Targetting arrays. But here's the catch about half of them have free-bonding knives,and about half don't. There is also a shield drone controller for each half to continue messing around with ablative wounds.

I have so far used them for jump over Firewarrior firing lines to annihilate Medium armor tanks and transports for the firewarriors toclean up what's left, jump back to receive Cover saves from the Firewarriors, and destroy things in combat when the gap's about to be closed.

There was one instance where I used him and gaurds to assure a Tie game against a Chimera/Valk/Russ guard list in a 2-Objective game by pressing them into the right side of the board unscathed, from them Shaking/Wrecking vehicles who looked like they were going to try to take the right side from Farsight. Once cramming Farsight and friends behind wrecked tanks in the opponent's right deployment zone (his left side), I proceed to clean the opponent's troops that stayed behind (instead of rushing to my already ruined Objective zone) off the objective to secure a Tie game.

Well BA gets even more ridiculous than SW.

8 IC's and 30 death company gets very obscene.

Over 4k points for one unit. That's with 2xth each. Probably wouldn't do that to make an 'efficient' death star.

Let's just call it 3500-4000pts. Good enough. If you can take enough special weapons that is. I don't know if there is a limitation on that.

At least I think you can put more than one sanguinary priest in a unit...

Very nasty unit. Obscenely expensive.

Marneus Calgar + 3 squads of 10 Honour Guard, all Guard have relic blades, one Guard per squad has the banner, Chapter Champions also have digital lasers.

1900 points all-up. One FoC slot. Apocalypse, eat your heart out.

3 Leman Russ Executioners with hull lascannons and sponson plasma cannons…735
Enginesser with 5 servators, two armed with plasma cannons…120
Enginesser with 5 servators, two armed with plasma cannons…120
Total…974

19 plasma templates, 3 lascannons