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Hey guys I'm not sure if I'm in the place, or if this has been covered yet, but what would be the best HQ choice for under 200pts?? My local gaming store is running an arena type game pitting any HQ choice with any extra's all at the same time. So like a free for all. Only rules are that they have to be under 200pts, must be from a 40k army an must only pick the war gear they can choose from the codex.

I'm lookin for a mainly melee HQ and am thinkin of the chaos daemon prince??

Castellan Crowe. In most cases, unless against a Psyker with a hood, he will be assured of at least a tie.

Rapier strike, get a few wounds off before the opponent, rending on a 4+ rerolling misses (with ws8) has an iron halo, and if he does die, you still have your psychic power that if he dies, he makes a psychic test and hits his opponent (with his ws8) they both die

200 points? Lysander all the way. Strength 10 Thunderhammer, 2+/3++, and eternal warrior. He's a wrecking ball.

I'd actually go with Baharroth. Sure, he's really terrible. But, in a free-for-all like this, you can use Skyleap to pull him back and keep him off the board.

Let the other HQs all kill each other, then use your grenade pack to hopefully finish off the last one.

GK Grandmaster with psychotroke grenades can do a lot, i think.

HQ..."choice?"
Would an IG command platoon(squad, WTF ever) work?

Saint Celestine.... I'm not quite dead.

what about a great unclean one? just throwing out idears.

IG command squad

Commander w/PF and Plasma pistol
2x Bodyguards
3x plasma gunners
1 Regular guardsmen
and a MoO
All with carapace


1 S9 ordnance blast a turn
7 S7 ap2 shots a turn
12 regular CC attacks and 3 S6 attacks base
19 s3 and 4 s6 on the charge
No ICs.

200pts.

I'd be worried about some other Marine Chapter Master dropping an Orbital Bombardment on that command squad.

Maugan Ra.

Accurate, S6 5 Shots, Rending, and a S6 power weapon with 4 attacks(5 on the charge) ansd I7.

Win

its not just a HQ its any char 200pts or less, an has to be one character not a unit/squad etc. So no body guards etc

big mek crazygit wrote:what about a great unclean one? just throwing out idears.

I like this idea. T6, W5, 4++, EW, FNP---GUO is a hard nut to crack. You can give him CoF (grenades) for 5 points, then, I don't know, Breath? (Or can GUO take Gift of Chaos..? No codex on-hand.)

Chaos Lord with wings or Terniator armour, daemon weapon and if you're feeling really lucky, Mark of Khorne. Or Nurgle if you aren't. Or Slaanesh if your opponent doesn't have Eternal Warrior. Strangely, everyone except the immortal champions of the Chaos gods seems to have that these days...

I say either Skulltaker on a Chariot or a Herald of Khorne on a Chariot with Blessing of the Blood God, Unholy Might, and Fury of Khorne.

Both are mini Monstrous creatures.

Are they both 200pts or less??

Skulltaker and Chariot are 160, a kitted-out HoK and Chariot is 120. They'll be pretty killy, but with relatively low initiative in a character battle (5, 6 if charging) and (again) relatively weak armor (3+/5++), I think they would also die pretty quick.

Edit: It's also hard to say how often you'd get to use Skulltaker's prize ability as you'll likely be encountering a lot of EW.

It's a shame that this can't be stretched to 210pts for the express purpose of Eldrad.

I'm also pretty sure that Baharroth is something like 205pts, but sorry if I'm wrong.

You could go along the same lines as the Celestine suggestion and go for Yarrick, still not quite dead, Power Klaw (admittedly it's only S6), and a couple of nifty other rules. Only 165pts as well (IIRC).

whigwam wrote:

Edit: It's also hard to say how often you'd get to use Skulltaker's prize ability as you'll likely be encountering a lot of EW.

totally agree, i think most people are gonna run a EW cos there could be so many force weps or S10 weps.

this brings me bk to the daemon prince, with wings, warptime an either mark of tzeench or nurgle. but then against a GK they may have a tough time!

What they lack in armor, they would make up for with decent toughness and high amount of Wounds (5 and 4 respectively). And they would both be rocking a 2+ invuln against Force weapons and Psychic powers.

Rampage wrote:It's a shame that this can't be stretched to 210pts for the express purpose of Eldrad.

I'm also pretty sure that Baharroth is something like 205pts, but sorry if I'm wrong.

You could go along the same lines as the Celestine suggestion and go for Yarrick, still not quite dead, Power Klaw (admittedly it's only S6), and a couple of nifty other rules. Only 165pts as well (IIRC).

Baharroth is 200 on the dot.


Also, are people not reading what this battle is? It's a massive free-for-all between a ton of HQ characters. Offense isn't the key, defense is. And, anything without EW won't have a chance.

Grakmar wrote:

Also, are people not reading what this battle is? It's a massive free-for-all between a ton of HQ characters. Offense isn't the key, defense is. And, anything without EW won't have a chance.

exacty what he said, you want a decent offence but a gd defence, theres gonna be at least 5+ chars in there an they could all attack the same person so getting around/away from people then jumpin in for a charge is important aswell.

also shooting is allowed, but im guessing most people will be in an assult

The best HQ for for a Mosh Pit 200pts battle is EASILY a GUO. That thing can outlive everything else, and being an MC with 2+ to wound and with str6 high chance of re-rolls to wound.


Yeah and add Gift of Chaos if he can have it. Watch them roll a 6 on their big ole' porky . . . HQ thingy and cry.

GUO cannot have Gift of Chaos.

BUT Aura of Decay is 20 points. Why does that matter you ask?

If this is going to be a giant HQ mosh Pit, alot of folks with be within 6 inches of the GUO. S2 AP- may not sound like much, but the more saves they have to make, the more saves they can fail.

If you are to run a GUO, you should give him cloud of Flies and look into Aura of Decay. he would be 185 points in total with both.

Lord Commissar with plasma pistol and power weapon.
Carapace armour.
Melta bombs.
In a Chimera with extra armour, HK missile, multi laser, heavy bolter and pintle storm bolter.

195 points

A single S6 AP4 missile
and
3 S6 AP6 shots
+
3 S5 AP4 shots
+
2 S4 AP4 shots
(all at BS3)
+
1 S7 AP2 shot at BS5

Per turn.

If your shop won't let you play that (which is the only single character in the IG codex that you can take) then they are unfairly shutting IG players out of the game.

And yes, for the purposes of this game I do consider a Chimera to be "wargear"

I suggest Captain Sicarius.

Ws 6
BS 5 Plasma Pitol
Str and T 4
3 Wounds
Int 5
3 Attacks, +1 for 2 CCW
Ld 10
Sv 2+/4++/FNP

Has a power weapon that can inflict a ID attack at Str 6. Pretty decent?


Or a Librarian with Termy armour and SS, and Vortex of Doom and Null Zone-190


Or, a CC monster in my expieriance.

Hive Tyrant with Bonsword/Laswhip, ST and Regeneration-200


Reduces opponent to Int 1, can use Paraxysm, can regen through that upgrade or Leech Essence, WS 8, Int 5, with rerolls of 1 to hit.


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Either that or a Tervigon with Regeneration and Toxin Sacs-200


Make Termagnt babies backup!

Gabriel Seth, 4 wounds, 5 strengh 8 rending chainsword that strikes at I6. You can insta-kill anything T4 before they strike, and he punches back when your enemy rolls 1's

Or a Warboss with power claw, cybork, and attack squig. Tough as nails and dead killy.

Dark eldar sucubbus w/ agoniser 85 points
-6 attacks on the charge, combat drugs, power from pain, high initiative, fleet, 4+ invun in combat, 4+ to wound everything no armour saves, assault grenades

OR

as it is 'HQ choice' 1v1

3 haemonculus with 2 flesh gauntlets and 1 mindphase gauntlet 200 points
-all 3 are 1 HQ choice, flesh gauntlets are poisoned attacks (4+) and unsaved wounds are instant death, mindphase gauntlet a defense mechanism for chance to stop opponent from attacking in CC, starts with FNP.

I realise I might have interpreted the 1v1 as 1 HQ choice vs 1 HQ choice but only because others used retinues and transports and such........

Also these are CC choices, a heavy bolter could win a shooting contest

Aun'Va for the win there is no way he could lose...

Humbaba wrote:Aun'Va for the win there is no way he could lose...

He is 205.