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I'd say the only reason a GUO would be a bad choice would be that he's probably one of the largest models on the board, and has no ranged attack. He looks scary, so if this is a 10-player, HQ fest, all the anger will go towards him. It's the same reason Tyranids don't do well in these type of games, they look scary, so kill them first!

I'd just wonder why anyone would want to go after a T6, W5, 4++, FNP monster right away. It's obvious you won't get out of combat quickly and GUO gains almost no advantage from charging. I guess the "big and scary" factor could come into play, but I'd think it'd just as soon keep people away.

Necron lord with warscythe and other goodies? Get some use out of the old boy while you still can.

Teln wrote:Aside from the Terminator armor, the S10 thunder hammer, the storm shield that gives him a bonus attack, Eternal Warrior and Stubborn? Not somebody you want to bump into in a dark alley.

Sounds like a slightly toned down version of Lysander.

A (Fireknife) Shas'o would dominate this, assuming you have enough room to run around. A Herald of Tzeentch on Chariot with Bolt of Tzeentch and Gaze would do well, as would a Sorcerer/DP with wings and Bolt of Change. An archon with a blaster might not do too poorly, same with an autarch with a bike and missile lawnchair. A master of the forge with a conversion beamer and a bike could just snipe all day.

I'd have to say Maugan Ra.

While we are on Greater Daemons, I think the KoS would also be a good choice...still T6...WS10 with a lot of attacks.

Not sure if it tops a GUO, but it's still quite durable, and even better in CC.

spyguyyoda wrote:While we are on Greater Daemons, I think the KoS would also be a good choice...still T6...WS10 with a lot of attacks.

Not sure if it tops a GUO, but it's still quite durable, and even better in CC.

I think you meant I10 as KoS is WS8. Which is great of course, there's definitely a case for the KoS.

WS 10, Int 10, T6? Perfect unlessplaying GK.

Lol...oops, right...that's what I get for being too lazy to check my codex...either way, he is indeed a great choice.

As far as GK go, I'm not too worried, because psykouts only work when they charge, and the KoS has fleet, so he's a bit faster. Also, in a big melee, it shouldn't be too hard to avoid the one guy the KoS should be afraid of...

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If only I could fit a Bloodthirster in there...that twould be fun

Maugan Ra.

He rends your ass with a S6 36" range gun with 5 shot(using fast shot) And at BS 7

ALso if you do get to combat and you charge him you still have to face 4 S6 power weapon attacks at WS7 and I7

Win

@Ridealgh: Unless you can weather his attacks and hit back, ignoring his 2+ and no invul and T4...Phoenix lords are currently outclassed by too much, IMO. A DE Archon with a Shadowfield and an Agoniser will rock his world, because he's got a lot more attacks that ignore the 2+ armor.

Ridealgh wrote:Maugan Ra.

He rends your ass with a S6 36" range gun with 5 shot(using fast shot) And at BS 7

ALso if you do get to combat and you charge him you still have to face 4 S6 power weapon attacks at WS7 and I7

Win

He's got no invul save, so most things would eat him pretty easily.


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spyguyyoda wrote:Phoenix lords are currently outclassed by too much, IMO.

With the exception of Baharroth, who can just hide the entire game.


Seriously people, the best answer to a giant FFA battle is to pick something that can hide off the board for the entire fight. Baharroth for the win.

I like baharroth plus if a massive melee ends up in the middle just drop ur grenade pack right on top of it

Runepriest tooled out with jaws and murderous hurricane in the very corner of the board.

whigwam wrote:I'd just wonder why anyone would want to go after a T6, W5, 4++, FNP monster right away. It's obvious you won't get out of combat quickly and GUO gains almost no advantage from charging. I guess the "big and scary" factor could come into play, but I'd think it'd just as soon keep people away.

gotta remember everyone is gonna have power weps, so FNP is wasted anyways

Sorry for the ignorance but how do the Demon Lords price out? If so a keeper of secrets will own most things. Otherwise I would kit out a hive tyrant and take the psychic ability where you can drop his WS to mush.

JoTWW will own. Just wait untill everyone is fighting in the middle then suck them into the world's core.

Deadshot wrote:JoTWW will own. Just wait untill everyone is fighting in the middle then suck them into the world's core.

It's as if 100 psychic hoods cried out at once and said 'Denied'. Also, most ICs tend to have somewhat high init.

Still, there is that one time they are on a high rolling streak. Not so smug now are you Mister Keeper of Int 10 Secrets?


There is a small glimmer of smugness when a Keeper of Secrest fails an Int test, like Slaanesh him/herself did a .

OP:

I've played in FFA arena battles often enough. The ones I've played in have never allowed named characters, I don't know if yours is different. I have always brought a Shas'o Commander with Plasma/Fusion and shield drones.

Board positioning is key, and despite it being a FFA, sides will be picked. Make sure that you collaborate with your nearest friends/enemies to save each other for the end. With the ability to jump/shoot/jump, and be able to move 12" per turn in addition to wrecking face with AP1 and AP2 firepower, as the ring empties out, you'll be uncatchable.

I've never lost a FFA. =D

If you like playing for a little luck. Dark Eldar Archon -
Shadow field
Soul trap
Husk Blade.
Drug Dispenser.

Your strength is going to go up with each IC or MC kill. A 2++ Invulnerable should do you fine. Add to that getting some pain tokens and voila! you should be the meanest elf at the party.

Just one thing, roll that 1 on a save and you go splat.

How about a tricked out SM captain on a bike? Give him a relic blade, artificer armor, digital weapons, hellfire rounds, auxilary grenade launcher, and meltabombs... actually I'm not sure how much that would cost.... it might be 10 or 15 over.

In a 1v1 match, I'd take Wazzdakka all the way. The ability to move 24" and shoot afterwards means I could kite my opponent to death.

Lack of EW and an invulnerable are only issues if you get hit, after all.

Zogwort is more of a luck shot, with you getting one or two attempts at a 1/3 chance to squig before you get caught in CC and slaughtered.

Do SW have a <200 pt hq that can bring Jaws?

Heffling wrote:Do SW have a <200 pt hq that can bring Jaws?

A Rune Priest costs 100 points before wargear (the force weapon is included in the base cost, you do not need to pay extra), and gets two psychic powers for free. Bringing Jaws is quite doable--along with TDA and a saga. If it's HQ-only, a Rune Priest is almost a no-brainer for Space Wolves.

Can you go with multiple HQ's? I'd go with 2 Tzeentch heralds on chariots at 100pts per. While everyone is bringing their uber tough but uber slow guys, I'd be running circles around them while casting bolt and gaze.

Well, a Herald IS 1/2 an HQ slot, so why not? the Mask and Skulltaker. Pull them in close for his decapitating attacks, then push the GK away untill he gets stuck against Lysander.

Taking away named characters is going to mean EW is almost an impossibility. Probably one of the few options would be a SW Lord hopefully in terminator armor with saga of the bear. Give him a Stormshield and your favorite weapon (TH, wolf claw, frost blade) and have at it.


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I still like the hive tyrant.
2 x bone swords for the 3 d 6 Ld test or die.
Then you can give him the preferred enemy ability and
add to that the psker power to nerf your opponent's WS.
Also you have Shadow of the Warp to nerf any close up psyker abilities that an opponent wants to use on you.

Only downside is you are going to look the part of the big nasty. That is why I think I would take the DE archon 2++ save and instant kill off the husk blade. You just need to get it off once and we go from S3 to S7 at that point you should be mr. nasty on the board.

hive Tyrants can not take 2 Boneswords. They start with a BS/LW and ST, and can swap BS/LW for anotherr pari of ST. They can rep[lace any set of talons for a gun. But not 2 BS.

Deadshot wrote:Well, a Herald IS 1/2 an HQ slot, so why not? the Mask and Skulltaker. Pull them in close for his decapitating attacks, then push the GK away untill he gets stuck against Lysander.

Unfortunately, the Masque and Skulltaker would exceed the 200pts max in the free-for-all.