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Just a quick question, my google-foo has failed me.

Are Immortals/Deathmarks just Warriors with extra bits? If you buy a box of Immortals/Deathmarks and a box of Warriors can you use the spare bits to convert the warriors, a la burna's and boys?

in short. no

there're sprue pics on the GW website if that helps

Not? That's really too bad. I had so nice plans on buying two boxes of Immortal / Deathmarks, build 10 Immortals, and use the bits and a few conversion skills to make Deathmarks from warriors / Deathmark bitz.
Guess that won't happen then...

Blast. Thanks.

On the other hand, it's a conversion opportunity. As long as it's WYSIWYG and you can tell the warriors from the immortals, why not try mixing the two kits?

Well, you'll get at least both the Deathmark head and weapon left over... So a warrior body + Deathmark head and the Synaptic Disintergrator... Enought WYSIWYG for me

You get the back chest part also for 5 death marks, so really you can convert the extra from warriors. Plasticard or green stuff for bigger solders and your good

A Warrior carrying a Synaptic Disintegrator is NOT WYSIWYG.

Posted in wrong thread, darn. Need a delete button.

Marzillius wrote:A Warrior carrying a Synaptic Disintegrator is NOT WYSIWYG.

It's WYSIWYG enough for me.

Tek wrote:

Marzillius wrote:A Warrior carrying a Synaptic Disintegrator is NOT WYSIWYG.

It's WYSIWYG enough for me.

Doesn't change that it isn't WYSIWYG.

The gin and the head atleast would be good, just the gun though id say no, need to put a little effort into it to atleast have the right face

The Cornerfag~ wrote:Not? That's really too bad. I had so nice plans on buying two boxes of Immortal / Deathmarks, build 10 Immortals, and use the bits and a few conversion skills to make Deathmarks from warriors / Deathmark bitz.
Guess that won't happen then...

Depends on your level of conversion skill. I've been hands on with all of the relevant sprues and I'm 100% convinced it can be done. You will need to get a little fancy with some contact points, but it's intermediate difficulty at worst.


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Marzillius wrote:

Tek wrote:

Marzillius wrote:A Warrior carrying a Synaptic Disintegrator is NOT WYSIWYG.

It's WYSIWYG enough for me.

Doesn't change that it isn't WYSIWYG.

I'll bet you're just a JOY to play with.

It's clearly not a warrior, it's carrying a disentegrator. A warrior can't take that, so it CAN'T be a warrior. It's a metal skeleton man with the gun listed on his army list. Problem?

....okay, the one big difference I see between Immortals and Warriors are the guns they carry. Plus minor aesthetic things like the shoulders.

C'mon, why wouldn't it be WYSIWYG? That's like claiming that someone's Sternguard Veterans are not WYSIWYG because the player didn't use the Sternguard Finecast/Metal models. Or a dread can't be a venerable dread (or vice versa) because it didn't use the venerable kit. That's just absurd.

Marzillius wrote:

Tek wrote:

Marzillius wrote:A Warrior carrying a Synaptic Disintegrator is NOT WYSIWYG.

It's WYSIWYG enough for me.

Doesn't change that it isn't WYSIWYG.

You sound like a HOOT.

RAW, it is WYSIWYG - the rule only makes distinctions about equipment. You may choose to only play against the actual models, and that's fine, but RAW, if a model is recognisably armed like a Deathmark, then it is legal.

Didn't someone above say that the heads would be spare/used in the conversion as well?

I don't see a problem.

On the plus side, anyone in Sweden now knows another player to avoid.

How is it a big deal or not WYSIWYG? A Necron is a Necron is a Necron. They're all based off the same chassis w/ additional decor for the most part so if someone had all their infantry models built out of converted warriors I wouldn't see how that would be a problem. So long as it's 100% clear who's armed w/ what & models that look like warriors aren't armed w/ weapons that warriors can have so I know they're not that's plainly WYSIWYG to anyone but a complete fascist.

Having looked at the sprues I think it would be fun conversions honestly. I really really want to start Necrons if my wife allows it lol but there are some models I just don't like the sculpts for like the new flayed ones. So if I were to buy warriors & convert them to be flayed ones but not cover them in flesh would that not be WYSIWYG if they're warriors w/ blades for fingers just cuz they don't look like skin mummies?

For a start, Immortals are larger than warriors, so mixing parts is a problem.

Only a little one, once you add a little plasticard or re-pin some joints. Warriors have made great Immortals in the past and I'm sure that the new plastics with all the extra bobbins will only provide more opportunity for converters to make 3-4 units from 2 kits.

I'm looking forward to making 5 Immortals with Teslas using the body and legs from the Immortals set, 5 Immortals with Gauss Blasters using Warrior bodies and legs beefed up with card (to match my converted Immortals), and 5 Deathmarks using their torsos, guns, heads, and Warrior legs. Then there's the left over Warrior bits for Reanimation Protocol Markers and the Scarabs to boot!

It's been some kind of misunderstanding here. I thought the guy were using Necron Warrios armed with Synaptic Disintegrators as Necron Warriors.

Still, thanks for judging me as a bad person by one forum post, greatly appreciated.

Marzillius wrote:It's been some kind of misunderstanding here. ... .thanks for judging me as a bad person by one forum post, greatly appreciated.

yeah,
http://youtu.be/k9-cFaVlh40

I've been thinking about the same conversions... the size thing would be easily overcome by basic modelling.
It's basically how much do you want to water down the parts / aesthetics of the models... It's no different to making extra grey knights by adding in tactical marines legs and torsos.

Personally I think that because I'm going to be playing the army for years to come, unless the conversions improve the models, I will probably just pay the monies and stick to the correct kits.

Panic...