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2011/11/29 15:28:23
Subject: Books that would make good wargames.
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Executing Exarch
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Hello there.
I was recently reading some of the Shadows of the Apt books by Adrian Tchaicovsky, they are really good, and have quite a unique cental basis for the characters based on insects.
Anyway, I was thinking that it would make quite a good basis for a wargame, and was wondering if anyone else had read these books, or any others, and thought that they would make a good wargame?
Happy discussing!
P.S. Not sure if theis would be better in OT or not, I'll let the mods decide!
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2011/11/29 15:43:08
Subject: Books that would make good wargames.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising.
Oh wait:
Yaaaaaay!
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2011/11/29 15:43:10
Subject: Books that would make good wargames.
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Lord of the Rings might; as might the Hobbit...
Seriously, some of David Edding's stuff could do reasonably well. There are already pre-determined 'factions', and these 'factions' specialise in some form of something (Nyssians are assassins, Drasnians are spies, Tolnedrans are your jack-of-all-trades footmen, Mimbrate Knights are your heavy cavalry, Algars are your Horse Archers, Chereks are your fear-nothing berserkers etc. etc.), and whilst there is a sort of Good vs Evil theme, nearly all the factions could be given an excuse as to why they're fighting each other.
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Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
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2011/11/29 15:50:12
Subject: Books that would make good wargames.
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Executing Exarch
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Avatar 720 wrote:Lord of the Rings might; as might the Hobbit...
Seriously, some of David Edding's stuff could do reasonably well. There are already pre-determined 'factions', and these 'factions' specialise in some form of something (Nyssians are assassins, Drasnians are spies, Tolnedrans are your jack-of-all-trades footmen, Mimbrate Knights are your heavy cavalry, Algars are your Horse Archers, Chereks are your fear-nothing berserkers etc. etc.), and whilst there is a sort of Good vs Evil theme, nearly all the factions could be given an excuse as to why they're fighting each other.
Good Shout in David Eddings, I've read The Belgariad and the Malloreon, they'd be really good. The prdetermined factions and Good vs Bad themes were what made me think Shadows of the Apt would be good. You have factions in the Insect Kindens (Mantis kinden are the elite duellists, Ants are highly organised warfare, moths are majic etc), and good vs bad in the Lowlands vs The Wasp Empire. Any others?
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2011/11/29 16:08:26
Subject: Books that would make good wargames.
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Avatar 720 wrote:Lord of the Rings might; as might the Hobbit...
Seriously, some of David Edding's stuff could do reasonably well. There are already pre-determined 'factions', and these 'factions' specialise in some form of something (Nyssians are assassins, Drasnians are spies, Tolnedrans are your jack-of-all-trades footmen, Mimbrate Knights are your heavy cavalry, Algars are your Horse Archers, Chereks are your fear-nothing berserkers etc. etc.), and whilst there is a sort of Good vs Evil theme, nearly all the factions could be given an excuse as to why they're fighting each other.
Ahhh, I love David Eddings... But yeah, his races would do great for a really varied game, but you would be limited to a few styles of play with each race...
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2011/11/29 16:11:40
Subject: Re:Books that would make good wargames.
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Hellacious Havoc
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Perhaps a little on the "tween" side but Rick Reordan's Heroes of Olympus series might be good. You have factions made up already and a modern day/ancient Greek and Roman god theme.
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2011/11/29 16:17:44
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Executing Exarch
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JudgeShamgar wrote:Perhaps a little on the "tween" side but Rick Reordan's Heroes of Olympus series might be good. You have factions made up already and a modern day/ancient Greek and Roman god theme.
I'm not familiar with that series, is it any good?
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2011/11/29 16:37:53
Subject: Books that would make good wargames.
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Erikson's Mazalan Empire stuff. You could have the various "empires" (Seven Cities, Mazalan, etc) and then throw in the various holds and warrens.
It could get quite complex actually.
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2011/11/29 16:49:55
Subject: Re:Books that would make good wargames.
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I'd be all over a game based on Naomi Novik's Temeraire series. Lots of fun painting opportunities with the dragons, different breeds have different abilities which could make things tactically interesting, and the different factions could be drawn from what the different European nations were up to during the Napoleonic wars.
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2011/11/29 16:51:14
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Hellacious Havoc
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Castiel wrote:
I'm not familiar with that series, is it any good?
They are very good. They are a new stories based on Greek and Roman myths. Follows the life of demi-god children and how they interact with the modern world with ancient ties to the old gods. Check out the link to learn more. I'm sure you could find both series on Amazon in the UK.
http://www.rickriordan.com/home.aspx
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2011/11/29 16:56:26
Subject: Books that would make good wargames.
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Horrific Howling Banshee
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My choices:
John Ringo's Legacy of the Aldanata series.
Travis Taylor's One Day on Mars series.
Jordan's Wheel of Time world has some potential.
Goodkind's Sword of Truth series has some good battles in book 2-4.
The entire Starfist series comes to mind.
Flint's 1632 universe would make an interesting tech blend.
Mike Sheppard's Kris Longknife series is an interesting setting.
And last one on my wish list, Jack Campbell's Lost Fleet series. It's almost as grimdark as 40K sometimes. 
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2011/11/29 16:59:42
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Executing Exarch
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Loads of good suggestions! My reading list has expanded a lot too!
Keep them coming!
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2011/11/29 17:01:57
Subject: Books that would make good wargames.
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Micheal Moorcock's large body of work on the Eternal Champion would make for a good wargame foundation.
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2011/11/29 17:13:38
Subject: Books that would make good wargames.
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Would personally love to see something done with Jim Butcher's Aleran Chronicles, although Temeraire is definitely up there. Actually, you could probably come up with something for Temeraire just by fiddling with Napoleonic rules...
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2011/11/29 18:26:18
Subject: Books that would make good wargames.
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I'm sure it probably exists already, but something based off of George R R Martin's A Song of Ice & Fire series would work pretty well. There's plenty of factions (Starks, Lannisters, Dothraki, Night Watch, The Others etc. etc.)
Also, is there a war game based on Frank Herbert's Dune mythos (Not the stuff by Brian)
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2011/11/29 18:42:44
Subject: Books that would make good wargames.
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Had to laugh at the Eternal Champion mythos being a good source for a wargame it's been done it's called Warhammer. Temeraire is doable with combining historical models with dragons don't know about rules, 1632 likewise and theres a roleplay ruleset out for it. Check out rpgnow.com if you don't believe me.
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2011/11/29 18:51:53
Subject: Books that would make good wargames.
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H.G Wells' Little Wars....oh wait..
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2011/11/29 19:05:21
Subject: Books that would make good wargames.
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Kyrolon wrote:My choices: John Ringo's Legacy of the Aldanata series. Travis Taylor's One Day on Mars series. Jordan's Wheel of Time world has some potential. Goodkind's Sword of Truth series has some good battles in book 2-4.The entire Starfist series comes to mind. Flint's 1632 universe would make an interesting tech blend. Mike Sheppard's Kris Longknife series is an interesting setting. And last one on my wish list, Jack Campbell's Lost Fleet series. It's almost as grimdark as 40K sometimes.
Depending on where you are in the series, you may or may not want to open the spoilers (they contain information from across the series, i'd say if you're up to Phantom or Confessor then you're probably fine). The Sword of Truth could potentially work, but there aren't really large enough factions to call it a wargame. The main enemy in the books was , and that would make for a few fun games until you realise it's just you facing the same enemy time ater time. The other parts of the Midlands aren't really large enough to fuel any large engagements . Also, depending on the timeline, it wouldn't make a lot of sense.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
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2011/11/29 22:44:46
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Llamahead wrote:Had to laugh at the Eternal Champion mythos being a good source for a wargame it's been done it's called Warhammer. Temeraire is doable with combining historical models with dragons don't know about rules, 1632 likewise and theres a roleplay ruleset out for it. Check out rpgnow.com if you don't believe me.
Even funnier it that of the seven people I've loaned my copies of the books out to over the years all seven of them felt he was ripping warhammer off to greater and lesser degrees.
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2011/11/29 22:51:06
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Werewolves. Vampires. Teen Angst.
Could be the best skirmish wargame ever...
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2011/11/29 22:52:15
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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It's a bit far fetched on the fluff front but I hear that the Bible has some cracking fight scenes in it?
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2011/11/29 22:54:31
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notprop wrote:It's a bit far fetched on the fluff front but I hear that the Bible has some cracking fight scenes in it?
Helldorado tried to tap this well.
It gave people in the industry cold feet...
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2011/11/29 22:56:30
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Castiel wrote:Avatar 720 wrote:Lord of the Rings might; as might the Hobbit...
Seriously, some of David Edding's stuff could do reasonably well. There are already pre-determined 'factions', and these 'factions' specialise in some form of something (Nyssians are assassins, Drasnians are spies, Tolnedrans are your jack-of-all-trades footmen, Mimbrate Knights are your heavy cavalry, Algars are your Horse Archers, Chereks are your fear-nothing berserkers etc. etc.), and whilst there is a sort of Good vs Evil theme, nearly all the factions could be given an excuse as to why they're fighting each other.
Good Shout in David Eddings, I've read The Belgariad and the Malloreon, they'd be really good.
The prdetermined factions and Good vs Bad themes were what made me think Shadows of the Apt would be good. You have factions in the Insect Kindens (Mantis kinden are the elite duellists, Ants are highly organised warfare, moths are majic etc), and good vs bad in the Lowlands vs The Wasp Empire.
Any others?
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2011/11/29 23:03:16
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Harry Potter. Find the deathly hallows and you win.
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2011/11/29 23:09:22
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Amtrac Wars?
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2011/11/29 23:37:53
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Executing Exarch
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CT GAMER wrote:*Worst suggestion ever*
Werewolves. Vampires. Teen Angst.
Could be the best skirmish wargame ever...
Fetch me my Baal Predator, its the only thing with a big enough flamer to purge this heresy! 
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2011/11/29 23:40:21
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Castiel wrote:CT GAMER wrote:*Worst suggestion ever*
Werewolves. Vampires. Teen Angst.
Could be the best skirmish wargame ever...
Fetch me my Baal Predator, its the only thing with a big enough flamer to purge this heresy!
I saw your twlilight poster, stop pretending...
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2011/11/29 23:58:23
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Executing Exarch
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My only poster says "KEEP CALM AND DRINK TEA", I see no Twilight link there?
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2011/11/30 00:14:14
Subject: Re:Books that would make good wargames.
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Well, I think it already happened, but Starship Troopers.
And, although they have board games already, I'd say Game of Thrones, and the Order of the Stick.
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2011/11/30 00:21:59
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Kinebrach-Knobbling Xeno Interrogator
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