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Is it possible that Tau had been corrupted by Chaos gods, and for example there you would have a chaos tau legion?

I mean it would be nice to play this as renegade guard with tau - chaosized models

Moreover any other xeno species? Chaos eldar, ork , etc ???

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Chaos Eldar used to exist, but they don't seem to any more. I believe a small group of Orks accidentally started worshipping Khorne once.

Chaos Tau is... possible, but highly unlikely.

And no, there would never be a Tau legion. That's marine talk.

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Chaos Tau are impossible. They have no presence in the warp, thus, are incorruptible to the taint.

It also could deal with the Ethereal's pheromones.

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So no warp presence means, only human kind can be be corrupted?

Eldar , dark eldar, bugs?

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They couldn't be tainted in the traditional manner because of no warp contact.

However, what if the theories about ethereals controlling the other races are true? You could have sort of a piggy back where a human or an eldar or something manages to reproduce or jack-into the tau mind control. Once a chaos tainted individual gains some sort of technological mind control over an ethereal, they just issue orders for chaos.

Now you have quasi-chaos tau.

A good writer could do it and it would be an awesome book.

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Chowderhead wrote:Chaos Tau are impossible. They have no presence in the warp, thus, are incorruptible to the taint.

It also could deal with the Ethereal's pheromones.


They have a presence in the warp, the Tau aren't blanks.
While the Eldar, like all psykers, shine brightly in the Sea of Souls and humans are perhaps a candle Tausouls would be more akin to a glowing bug but they still have a soul.
Why, as of yet, no Tau seem to have fallen prey to the Dark Gods is unknown. Perhaps it has something to do with their very strong ideology.
Just like truly devout humans are difficult to corrupt one could assume that the Tau, who truly seem to believe in the Greater Good, have a similar protection.
   
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Kingdeath, source? I recall reading that the tau LITERALLY did not have a warp presence at all and were utterly disconnected from it.
   
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Tau do have a presence in the warp. It's small, but still there. I don't know why so many people think they are blanks? Tau can become influenced by chaos, but they really don't have a good working knowledge of the warp so they wouldn't call it chaos taint even if that's what it is. Some battlesuit pilots suffer from a mental condition that cause them to be aggressive and lust for blood, but they don't call is the dark influence of knorn. They can it battlesuit nerouseis

Some believe farsight is under chaos influence. The tau in the book FW (forget his name) comes under the influence of knorn. If you want to do chaos tau, try knorn.
   
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Rented Tritium wrote:Kingdeath, source? I recall reading that the tau LITERALLY did not have a warp presence at all and were utterly disconnected from it.
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Current codex tau empire, p6.

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Aha, yeah so they theoretically COULD fall to chaos if they were weakened first or mind control was involved.
   
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Rented Tritium wrote:Aha, yeah so they theoretically COULD fall to chaos if they were weakened first or mind control was involved.


Yep. Definately. They are probably not immune but merely seem to be highly ressistant.
   
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Coolyo294 wrote:Why not make a Chaos GK army while you're at it?


Fluff aside, can you imagine the paintjob?

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I kind of want to paint chaos tau now. You know they'd like, arrange their spikes and skulls meticulously as to not interfere with weapon operation.

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BloodTzar wrote:So no warp presence means, only human kind can be be corrupted?

Eldar , dark eldar, bugs?

I am sorry i suck at fluff ~~


Eldar and Dark Eldar hate Chaos completely and have the whole thing about trying to defend their immortal souls from becoming dinner for Slannesh.
Tyranid have protection in the form of the Hive Mind, Tyranids are either mindless animals or a single gestalt mind both uncorruptable
Orks find that Chaos have nothing to offer them as they already live in a society that gives them what they want and the natural ork warrgh field they create gives them protection
Any race with desires and a lack of knowledge of the chaos gods true nature can become chaos (insert race name).

Although both Orks and Tyranids won't worship chaos gods they can be mutated by the warp or its constructs (Nurgles diseases).

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Rented Tritium wrote:I kind of want to paint chaos tau now. You know they'd like, arrange their spikes and skulls meticulously as to not interfere with weapon operation.


C'mon, they'd still be Tau.

Spaez Muhreens were all, "Lets glue as much gak to ourselves as we can, cause it looks kewl". So Chaos Mureens were all like, "I'm so metal, screw those other doods, I'ma glue these spikes and skullz all over cause its rad".

Chas Tau would probably still wear camo-type patterns. They would act like most everybody else in 40k and just be in it for the Worser Evil.

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i feel like tau would be a fun thing to do as chaos, they can be a nifty paint job/modeling. i imagine they would be like reavers from firefly, insane tau that dont really care about anything, or the greater evil if you want

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I seem to remember, but can't find at the moment, something about a group of Orks falling to Chaos, Infact I think that some really old fluff had Stormboys being effectivly Khorne kultists. That being said there is very little difference between orkish behavior and Khorne kultist behavior, some differences in warchants and that's about it.

 
   
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dreadfury101 wrote:i feel like tau would be a fun thing to do as chaos, they can be a nifty paint job/modeling. i imagine they would be like reavers from firefly, insane tau that dont really care about anything, or the greater evil if you want


I thing it would depend on the fluff you chose to go with.

If your army is like a splinter sect that worships and communes with chaos, then yeah, they wouldn't have good support and their armor and weapons would be all improvised and crazy, more like kroot.

But if you went with something like an ethereal being tricked into it or controlled somehow, you could end up with something closer to regular tau.
   
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Setting the record straight: Tau do have a warp presence, but it is very very minute and overshadowed by other species. The codex describes the Tau as being dimly lit candles in a sea of floodlights. In other words, the Tau are theoretically vulnerable, but warp entities pass over them because they are so feint that they can't detect the Tau's warp presence over everything else there.

Only one Tau has been known to be corrupted/possesed, Kais, the character from Firewarrior. As it turns out though, even though he was possessed he was still very much in pretty good overall control of himself, and definitely wasn't psycho flying rodent gak-crazy evil like a possessed human usually is.

Anyway, my only real statement to you is... why? You do realize that the concept of chaos ________ (where the _______ is anything you want to convert to chaos) is so boring, unoriginal and overdone as to actually illicit groans from veteran gamers and fluffbuffs, right? It's like... would like a side of chaos with your chaos?

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CpatTom wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:I kind of want to paint chaos tau now. You know they'd like, arrange their spikes and skulls meticulously as to not interfere with weapon operation.


C'mon, they'd still be Tau.

Spaez Muhreens were all, "Lets glue as much gak to ourselves as we can, cause it looks kewl". So Chaos Mureens were all like, "I'm so metal, screw those other doods, I'ma glue these spikes and skullz all over cause its rad".

Chas Tau would probably still wear camo-type patterns. They would act like most everybody else in 40k and just be in it for the Worser Evil.


Farsight dosen't wear camo anymore. I imagine that a tau who is suffering from chaos taint wouldn't really be too pragmatic. And you know the reason you make chaos tau, is to play around with new styles of paint and spikes.

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They'd just be spiky Tau.

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Seconding chaos0xomega, the concept of Chaos X mainly just makes everyone groan and is typically best left alone unless you have a REALLY cool idea. It is like making a duel wielding redeemed evil race character. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with the concept in and of itself, but it is still best avoided due to it's overuse by teenagers.

Fluff perspective: There is a limit to how much corruption can effect the Tau, due to their limited warp presence. The more powerful your soul, the more the warp can effect you: alpha psychers are lucky to survive to adulthood, typical humans can only be corrupted when exposed. Tau are going to be highly resistant, though probably not totally immune. On top of that, warp beings just don't care much about them. Lots of effort for a miniscule meal. That doesn't mean they can't choose chaos though, but it is kind of like a person with no force sensitivity choosing the dark side. No warp powers, no mutations, etc.

But, as the orks have shown us, just because your SOUL can't be corrupted doesn't mean your BODY can't. You could probably have nurgle tau.

TL;DR Tau's souls resist corruption, demons aren't interested anyways, nurgle plagues could still get them, but as a rule just avoid the concept, it makes people groan.

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chaos0xomega wrote:Anyway, my only real statement to you is... why? You do realize that the concept of chaos ________ (where the _______ is anything you want to convert to chaos) is so boring, unoriginal and overdone as to actually illicit groans from veteran gamers and fluffbuffs, right?


This is not really what the thread is asking about. Please don't derail.
   
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to excrement with new styles of paint


"And we can use other excrement AS new paints!"

Back on topic, I feel like this might be an interesting army, especially fluff wise.

What I would find hilarious is if the army was slaneesh themed, because tau are relatively selfless, so I find it quite funny if it was a *cough* innapropriately armored *cough* tau army.

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Right to put this simply Orks arent evil or chaotic they just love to fight they offer no trophys to Gods when they kill people and yell blood for blood God or dildo for slaneesh. Dark Eldar are chaos eldar and to comment on the Tau they cannot be corrupted they dont have a hole in their heart like humans that has to be filled, they all work towards the greater good. I dont why people think there should be chaos versions of everything it waters down fluff way to much and makes things exetremly repetitive. Anyway thats what i think/know for a few statements there.

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Dark eldar are absolutely not chaos eldar. Please actually read that fluff before saying things like that.


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I guess the thread is really over now that we've got the fluff thought police here to poo poo all over us for even THEORIZING about chaos tau.

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Hold on, you got a chip on your shoulder, let me get that for you

And where did the Dark Eldar = chaos eldar argument come from? That is completely the opposite of what the Dark Eldar fluff BLATANTLY states

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Malroke said that dark eldar were chaos eldar


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And as for chips, you guys popped into a thread asking if tau could be corrupted theoretically and made a bunch of posts about how cliched it would be.

Is it possible to be a fluff hipster? I'd watch out toeing that line.

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nomotog wrote:
CpatTom wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:I kind of want to paint chaos tau now. You know they'd like, arrange their spikes and skulls meticulously as to not interfere with weapon operation.


C'mon, they'd still be Tau.

Spaez Muhreens were all, "Lets glue as much gak to ourselves as we can, cause it looks kewl". So Chaos Mureens were all like, "I'm so metal, screw those other doods, I'ma glue these spikes and skullz all over cause its rad".

Chas Tau would probably still wear camo-type patterns. They would act like most everybody else in 40k and just be in it for the Worser Evil.


Farsight dosen't wear camo anymore. I imagine that a tau who is suffering from chaos taint wouldn't really be too pragmatic. And you know the reason you make chaos tau, is to play around with new styles of paint and spikes.


Where did the idea of Farsight not using camo come from?

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