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im2randomghgh wrote:

Sasori wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Prostitute themed all female army? Why hasn't anyone thought of that before?

They have.

SoB.

I don't think you can handle the rage, that will be directed against you if SoB fans find out you made that comment.

I've said worse about them before. I've been banned 2 or 3 times for it

But really, they are just armoured prostitutes with fire.

If you are getting banned for it, then you probably shouldn't say it.

Dakkadakka derailing in action.

Sasori wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Sasori wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Prostitute themed all female army? Why hasn't anyone thought of that before?

They have.

SoB.

I don't think you can handle the rage, that will be directed against you if SoB fans find out you made that comment.

I've said worse about them before. I've been banned 2 or 3 times for it

But really, they are just armoured prostitutes with fire.

If you are getting banned for it, then you probably shouldn't say it.

They just assume I am trolling, even when I am not.

im2randomghgh wrote:But really, they are just armoured prostitutes with fire.

I guess, most 15 year old boys who have never read about the Sororitas background, "idealize" them like that

im2randomghgh wrote:They just assume I am trolling, even when I am not.

Hope you are not serious.

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Kroothawk wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:But really, they are just armoured prostitutes with fire.

I guess, most 15 year old boys who have never read about the Sororitas background, "idealize" them like that

im2randomghgh wrote:They just assume I am trolling, even when I am not.

Hope you are not serious.

Trust, I have read more Sororitas fluff than I care to admit

And I am serious. Everyone loves calling out trolls so much that even when you aren't one...

Chaos Tau!

I have spent a long time thinking of ways to chaosify my tau. As they are my first and favorite army, I feel that the concept to be so ludicrous, that I *must* invent them in order to make the idea feasible. So my best options I haev come up with over the years...

Tau have a small presence, and anything short of a massive warp entity will take years to corrupt a tau. But it is possible. And if a head ethereal were to turn, he could turn his entire cadre or even his sept if he were high enough ranked. Possible, but rather weak fluffy explanation.

Another option, similar effect but whole different in pretense. A ethereal doesnt become corrupt, so much as he willingly seeks out chaos and wills himself to fall. Since ethereal's are rumored to be above the "greater good" and actually just control everyone else using that pretense, they can have selfish motivations. So in this one tau's instance, he wanted something more and turned to chaos. Be it political power and turned tzeetchy. Or since tau have short lives, he asked nurgle for longer life. Maybe he was a military leader and asked khorne for power.

Or the very real possibly that out of all the ethereals, one was just crazed and a secret lunatic and wanted to kill/burn/destroy and indulge in chaosy tendencies. He works to gain comtrol of a cadre, goes off on a mission, and then pheromone controls everyone to follow his thought process. Then its not far to hop to chaos.

Next option is there are no tau. Hold with me on this option, but i find it *the* most likely. A cadre consistent of a mass of kroot, vespid and human auxiliaries. We all know humans have their weaknesses in 40K, but if pressed, they can hold up every bit as well as tau when equipped properly. Take a cadre that was defending a small outpost planet or somethign similar. Not worth enough for the true tau to hold in force, but they could delegate to their auxiliary "equal allies". Somethign happens to the handful of ethereals or firecaste in charge (possibly corrupting a human commander to pop them in the head) and BAM, you have a army of tau equipped, easily corruptible humans and allied races. So long as your army doesnt have ethereals on the board or firewarriors without helmets, you can claim everything is being piloted by humans with tau equipment.

Another option is much like the farsight story, but have the commander of the army be a human instead of farsight. When the etheral gets popped (maybe by said human commader) the rest of the tau will blindly follow their great leader. I dont find it likely, but its possible to believe if you try not to develop the level of corruption involved. A little bit of idol worship, sure. Feasting on flesh and bathing in their enemies blood... not so much. No loyalty to a human would run that deep.

Another one I have come across from time to time but never liked myself, mind control a ethereal through non-chaosy ways in order to make him chaosy. One way I thought of would be to have a vespid strain leader. The strain leaders have those "communication helmets" on that let the tau control them. What happens if somehow somewhere it got broken/adjusted to allow the vespid to command the tau. Vespids have a warp presence....that or some enterprising human reverse engineered it to do the same idea for human -> tau mindcontrol.

Those table worthy chaos tau idea aside, I am firmly of the opinion tzeetch is involved here. While tau are hard to corrupt, they can be nudged slowly. And their interaction with other races affect the tau over time. And good tzeetch isnt one to usually bust out with blood crazed monsters right off the bat. He plans some high stakes, very long term games. Political intrigue is easy for the god of change to sway subtly. I cant guess what tzeetch would plan for the tau eventually, but im sure he has his chaosy little fingers in every bit of the taus dealings that he can.

I am firmly of the opinion tzeetch is involved here. While tau are hard to corrupt, they can be nudged slowly. And their interaction with other races affect the tau over time. And good tzeetch isnt one to usually bust out with blood crazed monsters right off the bat. He plans some high stakes, very long term games. Political intrigue is easy for the god of change to sway subtly. I cant guess what tzeetch would plan for the tau eventually, but im sure he has his chaosy little fingers in every bit of the taus dealings that he can.

That's because everything everywhere ever is/was/always will be part of Tzeentch's grand plan. Or CREEEEED!

chaos tau wouldn't really be possible because tau have no ties to the warp and the chaos gods. But renegade tau would work as succeeding from the empire

Didn't you have a similar idea once, flaminghorror?
And yeah, seperatist tau are not unheard of and it would be a nice way to create a unique-looking army

Who said a tau fleet never ventured far enough to fall in range of the warps influence



I believe anything is possible



edit: with the new 6th edition I'm going back to my tau having played a handful of armies that are considered evil, and I want to expand on my evil streak by making a renegade/chaos tau force. Gonna be using zombie/csm parts with my tau and looking forward to the results





p.s. I know this thread is old, but the topic is interesting

You don't need a tie to the warp to be corrupted by chaos. Perfectly inanimate matter can be possessed/corrupted/distorted by chaos (rocks, trees, metal, water, etc.) and as far as I know they have no connections to the warp. The warp can even find a way to corrupt/hack computers (Scrapcode and data daemons, obliterator virus, etc.) Chaos is insidious in its ability to infiltrate and corrupt practically anything.

Physically they can be corrupted at least. What influence this has on their minds is another matter entirely, and open up to debate.

Holy threadnomancy Batman.

im2randomghgh wrote:...murdering a mission of loyal sisters BEFORE the battle makes no sense, especially as they would have to fight the sisters, and risk losses on the GK side. Plus, then they have sisters who cannot fight alongside them. Plus, needing to do this implies that without it, the GK would be very much susceptible to corruption...

...Which proves that only esoteric rituals keep them from falling to chaos, rather than being special in any way.

Ok, lets get a couple of things straight.

The Bloodtide was a power of chaos. Much like the fires of Tzeentch, the Plagues of Nurgle, A Bolt of Change, A Wind of Chaos, or anything else you'd like to think of. Grey Knights have never been immune to the powers of Chaos. They rely on 'esoteric rituals' to keep them safe (re: The Aegis, for example). In order to protect themselves from this particular power of Chaos, they needed the blood of the Sisters.

It is not the powers of Chaos that are it's true weapon. It is the temptations of Chaos. Daemons and Gods make offers to people, and ask for things in return.

Everyone has a price. The High Lords, Segmentum Commanders, Planetary Lords, Inquisitors, Astartes Chapter Masters. They all have a price, and Daemons can buy them all. That is the true insidious nature of Chaos, that anyone who encounters it could become a part of it.

Anyone, except the Grey Knights. They can be blasted and destroyed by the powers of Chaos, but they will never choose to serve it. That is their immunity.


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Chowderhead wrote:Chaos Tau are impossible. They have no presence in the warp, thus, are incorruptible to the taint.[/quote]

Rented Tritium wrote:They couldn't be tainted in the traditional manner because of no warp contact.

riplikash wrote:There is a limit to how much corruption can effect the Tau, due to their limited warp presence.

I'm not sure what you guys are talking about.

Do the Tau want things?

Yes.

Can Daemons pretend to offer those things, in return for favours from the Tau?

Yes.

Therefore, the Tau can become the servants of Chaos.

Not having a significant warp process just means the forces of Chaos need to use an intermediary, like a cultist or someone.

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